From the article: Human-like AIs have brought plenty of justifiable concerns about their ability to replace human workers, but a company is turning the tech against one of humanity’s biggest scourges: phone scammers. The AI imitates the criminals’ most popular target, a senior citizen, who keeps the fraudsters on the phone as long as possible in conversations that go nowhere, à la Grandpa Simpson.
The creation of O2, the UK’s largest mobile network operator, Daisy, or dAIsy, is an AI created to trick scammers into thinking they are talking to a real grandmother who likes to ramble. If and when the AI does hand over the demanded bank details, it reads out fake numbers and names.
The software is designed to keep people on the line for as long as possible. Not only does this mean less time for the scammers to target real humans, but O2 is also using the conversations to learn the favorite tricks and techniques used in these schemes.
OGLikeablefellow on
So how long before there’s ai scammers just talking to AI grandmas?
FirefighterFeeling96 on
i need an app that lets me send incoming spam calls to an ai chatbot
ggf66t on
That doesn’t work in America because the phone companies are allowed to spoof phone numbers, so a scam call can come from your own phone number, it happened to me my wife and my mother.
Loud-Break6327 on
Don’t do it! They’ll lose all their life savings of tokens!
dontbeanegatron on
So like /r/itslenny but with more brains? I’d love to listen to some of the more hilarious ones 😄
superlack on
/r/Kitboga does a lot of this training his AI for future deployment, and it’s very entertaining to watch it on his stream.
marji4x on
There’s a really good podcast season called Shell Game. One of the episodes features this kind of thing: a guy made an AI version of himself to answer scam calls and talk to them. He’d record it to listen to later. A really interesting podcast listen
say592 on
They need to partner with a few banks who can give them account numbers that are valid and will transfer the money then claw it back at the last minute so they can investigate where it’s going. I know 99.99% of the time that are going to be unable to do anything, but it would allow investigators to learn more about their operations and maybe place pressure on the banks and local resources they are using to support them.
yearofthesponge on
In our future, AI scammers will be talking to ai anti scammer.
blahblah19999 on
How about using fucking AI to just block scams calls?!?!
FFS.
Swisscom8940 on
That’s a great use of AI lmao . I wonder if the voices are already „human“ enough or if the scammers don’t really care since they probably call dozens of people (if not more) per day and don’t care about the single voice they hear each time
knowsshit on
Why are they telling people to report „scam numbers“? I thought scammers would use any number as a caller ID, usually number belonging to some innocent third part person or business, or even local police or bank numbers, or just using disposable numbers from random providers if they cannot spoof their number.
Scams that are relaying on people to call a number that the scammers actually can answer sounds like something that would be blocked or taken down relatively fast, but I might be overestimating how this works in certain countries.
ToMorrowsEnd on
dont even need an AI. many of us made this kind of thing over a decade ago. Asterisk PBX had scripts that would play random and specifically chosen audio after detecting voice.
The real breakthrough will be when the scammers are using AI to try to scam people. And begun the first AI War will be.
Exallium on
I need this built into my phone instead of the Google call screening
bubblegoose on
/r/itslenny does something similar and it has been around for quite a while.
EffectiveNighta on
is there a live stream of this. Imagine an ai doing the whole gag of using a computer to input the code and getting the scammers to yell.
Giodude12 on
I don’t like generative AI stealing the jobs of real hard working individuals. We need to hire a fleet of grannies.
andreasdagen on
The next step is making the AI grandmothers get the scammers to do online work for them, and then using the money they earn to create more AI grandmothers. A truly self sustaining economy.
Phone system operators need to band together with crowd sourcing and allow us to transfer scam calls to Daisy AIs.
gnarlin on
While this is an absolutely fantastic idea I think it could also just help lonely people who have noone to talk with, especially if you are missing your grandparents. I’d love to call this fake grandmother and just have a long rambling talk about everything and nothing while having a nice cup of hot cocoa. Especially around Christmas.
Call you grandparents while you can.
GreasyPeter on
A non-unsubstantial amount of reddit comments are AI just rambling. I’m preparing to abandon the internet here soon. Anyone wanna do it with me? Let’s exchange phone numbers and instead of posting on reddit, we can just have conversations and actually become friends.
Slow-Network2604 on
Whenever I get scam phone call I just pretend I’m very old and start rambling or saying „Helloooo. CAN YOU HEAR ME…I , Hellooo???“ Drives scammers crazy. I love hearing them hang up in frustration! 😜
kalirion on
This is literally the best use of AI I’ve ever seen.
> O2 customers aren’t being given access to Daisy so they can wage their own campaign of vengeance against scammers. Instead, the AI tool has been added to a list of ‚easy target‘ numbers used by scammers.
This is too bad, scammers will just blacklist those numbers.
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From the article: Human-like AIs have brought plenty of justifiable concerns about their ability to replace human workers, but a company is turning the tech against one of humanity’s biggest scourges: phone scammers. The AI imitates the criminals’ most popular target, a senior citizen, who keeps the fraudsters on the phone as long as possible in conversations that go nowhere, à la Grandpa Simpson.
The creation of O2, the UK’s largest mobile network operator, Daisy, or dAIsy, is an AI created to trick scammers into thinking they are talking to a real grandmother who likes to ramble. If and when the AI does hand over the demanded bank details, it reads out fake numbers and names.
The software is designed to keep people on the line for as long as possible. Not only does this mean less time for the scammers to target real humans, but O2 is also using the conversations to learn the favorite tricks and techniques used in these schemes.
So how long before there’s ai scammers just talking to AI grandmas?
i need an app that lets me send incoming spam calls to an ai chatbot
That doesn’t work in America because the phone companies are allowed to spoof phone numbers, so a scam call can come from your own phone number, it happened to me my wife and my mother.
Don’t do it! They’ll lose all their life savings of tokens!
So like /r/itslenny but with more brains? I’d love to listen to some of the more hilarious ones 😄
/r/Kitboga does a lot of this training his AI for future deployment, and it’s very entertaining to watch it on his stream.
There’s a really good podcast season called Shell Game. One of the episodes features this kind of thing: a guy made an AI version of himself to answer scam calls and talk to them. He’d record it to listen to later. A really interesting podcast listen
They need to partner with a few banks who can give them account numbers that are valid and will transfer the money then claw it back at the last minute so they can investigate where it’s going. I know 99.99% of the time that are going to be unable to do anything, but it would allow investigators to learn more about their operations and maybe place pressure on the banks and local resources they are using to support them.
In our future, AI scammers will be talking to ai anti scammer.
How about using fucking AI to just block scams calls?!?!
FFS.
That’s a great use of AI lmao . I wonder if the voices are already „human“ enough or if the scammers don’t really care since they probably call dozens of people (if not more) per day and don’t care about the single voice they hear each time
Why are they telling people to report „scam numbers“? I thought scammers would use any number as a caller ID, usually number belonging to some innocent third part person or business, or even local police or bank numbers, or just using disposable numbers from random providers if they cannot spoof their number.
Scams that are relaying on people to call a number that the scammers actually can answer sounds like something that would be blocked or taken down relatively fast, but I might be overestimating how this works in certain countries.
dont even need an AI. many of us made this kind of thing over a decade ago. Asterisk PBX had scripts that would play random and specifically chosen audio after detecting voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlK_zHisT_A
The real breakthrough will be when the scammers are using AI to try to scam people. And begun the first AI War will be.
I need this built into my phone instead of the Google call screening
/r/itslenny does something similar and it has been around for quite a while.
is there a live stream of this. Imagine an ai doing the whole gag of using a computer to input the code and getting the scammers to yell.
I don’t like generative AI stealing the jobs of real hard working individuals. We need to hire a fleet of grannies.
The next step is making the AI grandmothers get the scammers to do online work for them, and then using the money they earn to create more AI grandmothers. A truly self sustaining economy.
[Hello, this is Lenny.](https://www.lennytroll.com/)
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Phone system operators need to band together with crowd sourcing and allow us to transfer scam calls to Daisy AIs.
While this is an absolutely fantastic idea I think it could also just help lonely people who have noone to talk with, especially if you are missing your grandparents. I’d love to call this fake grandmother and just have a long rambling talk about everything and nothing while having a nice cup of hot cocoa. Especially around Christmas.
Call you grandparents while you can.
A non-unsubstantial amount of reddit comments are AI just rambling. I’m preparing to abandon the internet here soon. Anyone wanna do it with me? Let’s exchange phone numbers and instead of posting on reddit, we can just have conversations and actually become friends.
Whenever I get scam phone call I just pretend I’m very old and start rambling or saying „Helloooo. CAN YOU HEAR ME…I , Hellooo???“ Drives scammers crazy. I love hearing them hang up in frustration! 😜
This is literally the best use of AI I’ve ever seen.
> O2 customers aren’t being given access to Daisy so they can wage their own campaign of vengeance against scammers. Instead, the AI tool has been added to a list of ‚easy target‘ numbers used by scammers.
This is too bad, scammers will just blacklist those numbers.