Wie können wir Dinge verbessern?
https://yle.fi/a/74-20079824
Von JustDiveInTimberLake
Wie können wir Dinge verbessern?
https://yle.fi/a/74-20079824
Von JustDiveInTimberLake
16 Kommentare
Making immigrants to learn Finnish would improve things.
People count the smallest of things as discrimination these days, that number is laughable propaganda.
Would be insightful to hear what qualifies as discrimination
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Top comment on the Yle article sums up this subreddit perfectly well, from the responses I’ve seen so far:
> I am waiting for readers‘ comments with whataboutism and skepticism like I have been noticing with every article about racism. Like, other countries are worse, or why only point to Western countries, or maybe the immigrants are mistaken.
It’s interesting to me how there are always people who „know better“ than others, especially when they don’t share any similarities, at all.
Surprisingly low percent
I don’t know how to say this differently. But it sounds like 40% should find a country more suitable to live in.
Honestly thought it’d be a lot higher than that based on what I’ve seen
Here comes a politically loaded suggestion if no immigrants come to Finland then they never get discriminated.
Distinguishing happens every day on many levels. Whether it should be called discrimination is a tough question. For example many recruiters are women and thre is evidence to indicate that most women do not consider most men handsome. How does that influence men’s chances of getting jobs?
Also there are religions where male genital mutilation and illegal animal slaughter is the norm. More specifically the slaughter would be illegal if it was not for the „a billion flies cannot be wrong about fecal matter“ theory.
Also if your religion forces you to follow poor hygiene, not look people in the eye or leave work for prayers etc. then that’s a big problem. Cultures also differ in other mores of politeness even in Europe. In Eastern Europe people often look like they hate their life and their customers and do not smile. Being a jerk may be considered efficient in the Netherlands but a lack of emotional intelligence in Scandinavia. At least it’s better than punching someone in the face over an argument which is not infrequent in a land titled ‚Nigeria with snow‘. In anglosaxon countries aggressive selling is considered normal whereas it’s seen as shameful in Finland.
Being a little slippery and bending the rules (showing up late, cheating in one way or the other) is much more normal almost everywhere other than Finland and a few select super-countries. Finland ranks as one of the most honest countries.
There are many hurdles and risks involved for employers and simply speaking Finnish very well (which is a rarity in itself) does not mean the employer won’t face any risks.
I love that after reading all the comments in this post, I realise that neither side wants to accept that there’s some truth in both sides.
If you say anything against their established belief you are a racist/woke, when the truth is in the middle lol. We will be just like the US in no time.
I solved how to deal with racists as bouncer. First they call racial slurs to you and expect to continue day peacefully. You warn them to shut up. They continue. Then I grab them from back and carry outside as baby. I break all superiroty complex and ego of person and bring back to reality.
Then leave
Yep even if you have been living here for 30 years and during that time you felt discriminated once, then you are qualified to say „yes“ to this poll.
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Ah yes, once again the survey asks about feelings. If you felt you’ve been discriminated against, doesn’t mean that it actually happened. That’s why these surveys are useless.