Heirat ist der Schlüssel zum Geburtenrückgang in Japan – In seinen jüngsten Prognosen hatte das japanische Nationalinstitut für Bevölkerungs- und Sozialversicherungsforschung damit gerechnet, dass die Zahl im Jahr 2035 auf 755.000 sinken würde. Im Grunde ist sie nun ein gutes Jahrzehnt früher als geplant da.

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    1. From the article

      >The country has grown accustomed to these numbers confirming a relentless story of falling births and, more generally, of population decline. But these were unsettling.
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      >In its most recent forecasts, Japan’s National Institute of Population and Social Security Research had expected the number to fall to 755,000 in 2035. It is now basically there a good decade ahead of schedule.
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      >The relationship between falling marriages and falling births is cemented in Japan by a key data point. For many decades, the ratio of children born in Japan out of wedlock has hovered just above 2 per cent — the lowest of all OECD countries, where the average rate is about 42 per cent. Stable, long-lasting Japanese marriages, despite the many financial and other issues cited by couples as an impediment to having large families, are pretty consistent producers of about 1.9 children. 
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      >Put very simply, to produce a bigger annual cohort of babies, Japan needs more and longer-lasting marriages, preferably by people starting younger.
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      >As an ambition (if that is what Japan’s politicians decide it must be) the idea of fighting the societal trend towards marrying later and less is as grand and interventionist as they come.
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      >As a policy, it will require ingenuity of a type most developed countries have yet to demonstrate.

    2. OisforOwesome on

      Ah yes its definitely marriage and not the absolutely crushing work culture and rising cost of living combined with looming global crises like climate change leaving many young people feeling like there is no point planning for a future.

    3. Riversntallbuildings on

      “Marriage” is simply a property & liability contract, and historically the woman has been the main piece of “property”.

      It’s an old tradition that needs to be phased out in favor of more modern laws that protect and care for individuals. Especially children.

    4. Master-Back-2899 on

      It will be interesting to see how governments approach this problem and if they are successful or not. South Korea is set to completely collapse in the next 30 years, and Japan in 100. None of their current efforts have done anything.

      These are resource rich areas with established infrastructure. They won’t just lie empty.

    5. panconquesofrito on

      I don’t understand what this is saying. Less marriages and there for less children?

    6. UltimateShame on

      It’s funny that it’s never the fault of having to work so much. It’s ridiculous. Even with working 40 hours a week I would never even think of waisting my precious freetime to care for and raise a child.

    7. I predict that birthrate will settle to near 0.5 and I predict it will happen faster than anyone predicted. Current young generation seems not to care about family. This all will happen at other countries too.

    8. chasonreddit on

      > Put very simply, to produce a bigger annual cohort of babies, Japan needs more and longer-lasting marriages, preferably by people starting younger. As an ambition (if that is what Japan’s politicians decide it must be) the idea of fighting the societal trend towards marrying later and less is as grand and interventionist as they come.
      As a policy, it will require ingenuity of a type most developed countries have yet to demonstrate.

      Have yet to demonstrate thank goodness.

      Why does anyone think that influencing marriages and birthrates is a legitimate function of government? It’s there to serve the citizens, not control their numbers and demographics. That implies that the citizens serve the government, to me an abhorrent concept.

    9. PM_ME_TITS_FEMALES on

      Fun fact: no fault divorce doesn’t exist in japan. You know how here in America you can divorce a partner for pretty much any reason (eg abuse, lying, not feeling in love anymore, etc)? Yeah in Japan the only reasons you’d be able to divorce are for sexual cheating, being abandoned or their dead.      

        That’s just 1 of their woefully outdated laws in regards to marriage.  Add shit like that with a shitty work/school culture and presto! you got yourself the perfect recipe for people not wanting to get married.

    10. Eventually, one of these governments will discover that they need to straight up pay people to have kids and pay enough that its a substitute for working.

    11. Is there any particular reason to get married anymore, in Japan or anywhere else for that matter? What is gained by being married? It’s not taboo to be in an unmarried sexual relationship anymore. Seems like it’s all risk and no reward.

    12. This is all because of the shitty work and family culture over there. Cannot believe the number of Americans who idealize Japan because of anime and don’t realize how much of a shitty place it is to live in terms of work/life balance and autonomy. That place sucks so much and was absolutely one of my least favorite places to visit. Everything feels superficial, fake and no one is showing their true selves in public from my experience

    13. Not that it would happen but I think they should drastically reduce highway tolls and recoup the funds by legalizing and regulating cannabis. Get people out of the cities and let them get high to step out of the inanity of modern life and recharge.

    14. Vanillas_Guy on

      At worst, the economy will shrink drastically and formerly well established Japanese companies will get weak enough to be bought out by American, European or Chinese companies.

      At best, the government will finally encourage and enforce unionization efforts, pour billions into the arts(so creative people can pump out more optimistic visions of the future in their art), spend a solid 20-30% of the annual budget on mitigating the worst effects of climate change, enforce anti trust legislation and grants to people trying to start their own businesses, and finally relax immigration standards but be strict when it comes to deportation criteria. Commit a crime and you’re instantly denied re entry into the country and deported.

      And of course full throated support for women. Women are avoiding marriage also due to toxic attitudes about „a woman’s place“ a concentrated effort to eliminate these outdated ideas of women not being free to control their economic and biological goals will lead to women being more interested in men who expect to share labor in the home, be fully present for their children, and see her more as a team mate than a cook and maid who should do what he says and never complain.

      In short: actually listen to people.

      I don’t see Japan withering away and becoming some sort of wasteland, but it may be invaded and annexed by an aggressive country desperate for land and resources. When your average JDF soldier is 50 years old, there won’t be much of a „war“ to speak of. 

    15. Tanker-yanker on

      Guess people didn’t want all of those kids after all. Once they had a way to stop them, they did.

    16. they also need immigration to boost their numbers, and with worldwide births tapering off as well that might not even be an option at some point.

    17. Days_Gone_By on

      The year is 2065.

      The global population has declined to an apocalyptic level.

      Every registered citizen of each country has their name entered into the global marriage lottery system.

      The lottery system matches people based upon physical and mental traits as well socio-economic standing. The bearth of class inequality has reached levels never before seen.

      On my 25th birthday my lottery number has been assigned and I have been paired with my partner.

      The government has assigned me a state mandated wife and we are expected to have our first of several state mandated child within the first 3 years of marriage.

      We go on our first date after our virtual ceremony conducted by the ordained AI.

      The air is tense, we both laugh nervously.

      I ask her, „So, what do you do for fun?“

      She replies, „I like to read!“

      I reply, „Me too! I’ve actually got a really cool story of you want to hear it.“

      Leaning in she smiles softly, „I’d love to.“

      „Now… this is a story all about how my life got flipped-turned upside down…“

    18. Here’s an article on the number of births and deaths in Japan last year. [https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h01916](https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h01916)

      The population dropped by 831,872 people in 2023, 782,305 in 2022. The drop in population is accelerating. At some point the population decrease will start slowing down just because there’s fewer people.

    19. They will try to solve this problem every which way, but making people work less, paying them more and giving them parental leave and free daycare.

      Which is the actual answer to this problem.

    20. Turns out being a vastly xenophobic nation which bases its identity on ethnicity in this day and age has drawbacks

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