you can retroactively justify that no jobs should have been there in the first place, using this reasoning
MorfiusX on
“Some creative jobs maybe will go away,” Mira Murati told her alma mater, the Thayer School of Engineering at Dartmouth University, in an interview earlier this month. “But maybe they shouldn’t have been there in the first place.”
Get out of here with your gaslighting bullshit.
bruizesz on
honestly AI could kill most jobs. instead of paying to go to therapy I talk to chatgpt about my problems and it helps a lot. also takes away the awkwardness and having to go somewhere.
CaptPants on
If it wasn’t for creative jobs existing in the first place, there would be zero content to ‚train‘ AI with and therefore, AI wouldn’t be able to „create“ anything either. AI would be nothing without the ‚training materials‘ of thousands or humans who dedicated their lives to mastering their crafts that AI is now copying.
8YearOldiPod on
From the article: The advent of artificial intelligence has prompted understandable concern over job displacement—and nearly every industry stands to be impacted by the nascent technology. Creatives in particular have been shaking in their boots out of fear of losing their livelihoods to programs such as ChatGPT and DALL-E, which is largely used for graphic design.
And now, the chief technology officer of OpenAI warns that the technology could in fact cause job displacement in the creative industry. She questions, however, whether those jobs really needed to exist.
It’s one job, Michael. What could it cost, 10 dollars?
the_inevitable_truth on
UBI is looking less and les likely. Starving to death looks more and more likely.
BitterJD on
This is my concern with a couple generations of young people aggressively pursuing STEM and disregarding the liberal arts and social sciences. Technical innovation is GREAT for the development of humanity and civilization; however, staunch ignorance to what it means to be a human is going to de-rail theoretical any and all progress.
elmassivo on
This technology is really world-changing, I promise!
There haven’t already been any large-scale failures of the fundamental utility of the technology at all, stop asking!
Just buy our nebulously useful subscription product so we can stay afloat a until the next funding round… also have your developers make buggy apps using our overpriced APIs!
Also buy NVIDIA for reasons I can’t legally disclose!
-OpenAI’s CTO, probably
NameLips on
The only way to fight AI art is to go out and buy human-made art. Do your part.
theytoldmeineedaname on
This is a wild thing to say with all the homeless, mentally unstable ex-creatives lurking the streets of SF.
KravMagaCapybara on
If these creative jobs hadn’t been there in the first place, OpenAI wouldn’t have any material to train on to displace these creative workers.
CaptainKoconut on
AI’s are good at integrating large amounts of information and identifying broad trends that humans may not be able to spot. This is actually a CEO’s job, but humans can only digest so much data (which is why I have to prepare 1 paragraph long „executive summaries“ of multi-page reports).
So actually, it would probably be much more effective to replace the C-suite with AI and pay the „creatives“ and other front-line workers below them more.
brentsg on
They are fine using those creative people as a source of free AI training.
CompassionJoe on
If this was the case then why are those jobs getting paid more then lets say a construction worker or someone who actually does hard labor.
Tolendario on
just wait until AI replaces all the useless executives
KultofEnnui on
Nick Land said, „the mentally ill are simply POW’s from the future.“
Nick Land omitted to mention the other part of said maxim, „the sociopaths are the kings of the future.“
aigars2 on
Everything turns to shit eventually or is low quality where current AI is used, for example, in movies. Movies are all similar and unwatchable due to AI script.
ImmersingShadow on
Why should those jobs not exist? Because I can technically draw, I do not need a graphics designer? Well, I still take the designer because he’s bound to be better at that than me. So, there is at least one always hiring a designer. Pity I have nothing to be designed…
OpenAI greatest contribution to the world is limiting students from taking on debt for jobs that were unlikely to make money before AI.
coyote500 on
yeah, screw people trying to feed their families. they shouldn’t have been born in the first place
Sweet_Concept2211 on
*If your job could be replaced by a $10 billion robot that was science fiction 18 months ago and requires its own nuclear power plant to function, then maybe your job was fake news all along.*
jimmysledge on
if they shouldn’t have been there, what is the need for AI ????????
sheytanelkebir on
„Creative“ has long been a Byword for the children of middle class parents who were a bit dim and couldn’t get a real profession, but becoming labourers was beneath them.
Don’t shoot the messenger!
icyraspberry304 on
Dall-e is so bad I can’t even believe they’re bold enough to claim any of this in the first place
ClittoryHinton on
Some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I am willing to make.
travistravis on
First it was AI won’t get rid of jobs, then it would only get rid of jobs no one wanted, now its those jobs shouldn’t have existed anyway…
VajraXL on
now it’s the creative jobs. then it will be the other jobs and suddenly we will move on to people losing jobs in general but those people shouldn’t even be there in the first place. it’s pretty easy to go around excusing yourself for taking away what belongs to others. i feel like what shouldn’t be there in the first place were the CEO’s they tend to make unfortunate comments and make poor decisions that affect others. they sound pretty inefficient and ready to be among the first to lose their job.
ThePheebs on
If the job shouldn’t have existed in the first place then why the fuck is the AI doing it?
Tactical_Laser_Bream on
All I want is one, _just one_ RoboCop-esque incident where an AI system turns a boardroom full of executives into dog food because of a misunderstood command while they all frantically wrestle with the remote.
Is that so much to ask?
Jessintheend on
Exactly, AI should be in charge of making all of our art, music, and movies, our “humanities” if you will. That way people are free to do all the things that truly matter, like data entry, mid management of the data entry dept. and shareholder
Comfortable-Top9186 on
Does anyone feel as though these tools give the opportunity to consumers/users to make their own stuff and slowly lose dependence on big companies? Like yea you have to make tech ur hobby and basically have an eng degree but the practical aspects of learning that are fun and as electronics stuff is mass orderable we can reverse engineer a lot of products. Yes it’s not economically viable but maybe it’s not about that, maybe it’s more so about not donating our money to big companies and creating our own solutions. I moved careers completely because I predicted the career I wanted wouldn’t exist anymore to a safe degree, but now I’ve found myself in an eng world full of new possibilities and I never ever before thought I would like, much less love this stuff. Basically I wanna say what if we can bring some form of UBI to ourselves, at least thru minimizing the need for expensive consumer products somehow and more small electronics businesses/community making. Sorry for the rant 
Morden013 on
Really? Like those jobs that helped develop creative thinking and propelled technology forward?
Who is able to discern what is needed and what is not needed? Is it a momentary thinking process we will regret in the future as our creativity dies down and turns into a slog of similarly generated graphics, images and solutions that look so much alike we can’t even enjoy them anymore?
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you can retroactively justify that no jobs should have been there in the first place, using this reasoning
“Some creative jobs maybe will go away,” Mira Murati told her alma mater, the Thayer School of Engineering at Dartmouth University, in an interview earlier this month. “But maybe they shouldn’t have been there in the first place.”
Get out of here with your gaslighting bullshit.
honestly AI could kill most jobs. instead of paying to go to therapy I talk to chatgpt about my problems and it helps a lot. also takes away the awkwardness and having to go somewhere.
If it wasn’t for creative jobs existing in the first place, there would be zero content to ‚train‘ AI with and therefore, AI wouldn’t be able to „create“ anything either. AI would be nothing without the ‚training materials‘ of thousands or humans who dedicated their lives to mastering their crafts that AI is now copying.
From the article: The advent of artificial intelligence has prompted understandable concern over job displacement—and nearly every industry stands to be impacted by the nascent technology. Creatives in particular have been shaking in their boots out of fear of losing their livelihoods to programs such as ChatGPT and DALL-E, which is largely used for graphic design.
And now, the chief technology officer of OpenAI warns that the technology could in fact cause job displacement in the creative industry. She questions, however, whether those jobs really needed to exist.
“Some creative jobs maybe will go away,” Mira Murati told her alma mater, the Thayer School of Engineering at Dartmouth University, in an [interview](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DyUoj9B8OpR8%26t%3D1772s) earlier this month. “But maybe they shouldn’t have been there in the first place.”
It’s one job, Michael. What could it cost, 10 dollars?
UBI is looking less and les likely. Starving to death looks more and more likely.
This is my concern with a couple generations of young people aggressively pursuing STEM and disregarding the liberal arts and social sciences. Technical innovation is GREAT for the development of humanity and civilization; however, staunch ignorance to what it means to be a human is going to de-rail theoretical any and all progress.
This technology is really world-changing, I promise!
There haven’t already been any large-scale failures of the fundamental utility of the technology at all, stop asking!
Just buy our nebulously useful subscription product so we can stay afloat a until the next funding round… also have your developers make buggy apps using our overpriced APIs!
Also buy NVIDIA for reasons I can’t legally disclose!
-OpenAI’s CTO, probably
The only way to fight AI art is to go out and buy human-made art. Do your part.
This is a wild thing to say with all the homeless, mentally unstable ex-creatives lurking the streets of SF.
If these creative jobs hadn’t been there in the first place, OpenAI wouldn’t have any material to train on to displace these creative workers.
AI’s are good at integrating large amounts of information and identifying broad trends that humans may not be able to spot. This is actually a CEO’s job, but humans can only digest so much data (which is why I have to prepare 1 paragraph long „executive summaries“ of multi-page reports).
So actually, it would probably be much more effective to replace the C-suite with AI and pay the „creatives“ and other front-line workers below them more.
They are fine using those creative people as a source of free AI training.
If this was the case then why are those jobs getting paid more then lets say a construction worker or someone who actually does hard labor.
just wait until AI replaces all the useless executives
Nick Land said, „the mentally ill are simply POW’s from the future.“
Nick Land omitted to mention the other part of said maxim, „the sociopaths are the kings of the future.“
Everything turns to shit eventually or is low quality where current AI is used, for example, in movies. Movies are all similar and unwatchable due to AI script.
Why should those jobs not exist? Because I can technically draw, I do not need a graphics designer? Well, I still take the designer because he’s bound to be better at that than me. So, there is at least one always hiring a designer. Pity I have nothing to be designed…
87% of people reject their journalism degree.
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/s/EO6FM4qwG5
OpenAI greatest contribution to the world is limiting students from taking on debt for jobs that were unlikely to make money before AI.
yeah, screw people trying to feed their families. they shouldn’t have been born in the first place
*If your job could be replaced by a $10 billion robot that was science fiction 18 months ago and requires its own nuclear power plant to function, then maybe your job was fake news all along.*
if they shouldn’t have been there, what is the need for AI ????????
„Creative“ has long been a Byword for the children of middle class parents who were a bit dim and couldn’t get a real profession, but becoming labourers was beneath them.
Don’t shoot the messenger!
Dall-e is so bad I can’t even believe they’re bold enough to claim any of this in the first place
Some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I am willing to make.
First it was AI won’t get rid of jobs, then it would only get rid of jobs no one wanted, now its those jobs shouldn’t have existed anyway…
now it’s the creative jobs. then it will be the other jobs and suddenly we will move on to people losing jobs in general but those people shouldn’t even be there in the first place. it’s pretty easy to go around excusing yourself for taking away what belongs to others. i feel like what shouldn’t be there in the first place were the CEO’s they tend to make unfortunate comments and make poor decisions that affect others. they sound pretty inefficient and ready to be among the first to lose their job.
If the job shouldn’t have existed in the first place then why the fuck is the AI doing it?
All I want is one, _just one_ RoboCop-esque incident where an AI system turns a boardroom full of executives into dog food because of a misunderstood command while they all frantically wrestle with the remote.
Is that so much to ask?
Exactly, AI should be in charge of making all of our art, music, and movies, our “humanities” if you will. That way people are free to do all the things that truly matter, like data entry, mid management of the data entry dept. and shareholder
Does anyone feel as though these tools give the opportunity to consumers/users to make their own stuff and slowly lose dependence on big companies? Like yea you have to make tech ur hobby and basically have an eng degree but the practical aspects of learning that are fun and as electronics stuff is mass orderable we can reverse engineer a lot of products. Yes it’s not economically viable but maybe it’s not about that, maybe it’s more so about not donating our money to big companies and creating our own solutions. I moved careers completely because I predicted the career I wanted wouldn’t exist anymore to a safe degree, but now I’ve found myself in an eng world full of new possibilities and I never ever before thought I would like, much less love this stuff. Basically I wanna say what if we can bring some form of UBI to ourselves, at least thru minimizing the need for expensive consumer products somehow and more small electronics businesses/community making. Sorry for the rant 
Really? Like those jobs that helped develop creative thinking and propelled technology forward?
Who is able to discern what is needed and what is not needed? Is it a momentary thinking process we will regret in the future as our creativity dies down and turns into a slog of similarly generated graphics, images and solutions that look so much alike we can’t even enjoy them anymore?