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15 Comments
It’s honestly surprising how many teachers there still are considering how shit of a job it is. Dealing with shit kids, or shit parents, shit administrators, long hours, and shit pay.
Nice well they also get 1/4 of the year off and commonly a pension so they can work for it.
This is, solely, a fault of higher education and corruption in education. No one should need a masters degree to do what an afterschool program employee does.
In California though, most teachers have it pretty good. The average pay in our local district is $120K, retirement (with pension) at age 60 and cadillac health insurance for $100/month.
“APRIL 25, 2024 – Nationally, public school spending per student rose 8.9% from $14,358 in FY 2021 to $15,633 in FY 2022”
The average class size is 20 students in the US. That’s $312,660 per classroom. California, it’s $600,000+ per classroom.
It’s not an income problem, it’s a spending problem. The media will not give you this simple explanation. Best Government money can buy.
What are taxes for?
Teachers dont get it.
The roads are shit.
Police take 10-20 minutes to show up.
Wtf are we paying for exactly?
That color scale is unfortunate.
So do most people, and they’re paid based on 2000 hours worked a year, not 1600.
According to these “standards” numbers only the top few percent of earners are living comfortably.
The listed “minimum salary for a single person to live comfortably” values are quite high.
I am at my personal peak income with 10yrs of experience in my field. And I’m still making solidly less than the “live comfortably” rate for my state.
Even so, I’ve had my student loans paid off for ages,
I’ve got a house in a good neighborhood (suburb of a major city) that’s half paid off, and I’ve never had to have a roommate to split costs. By all accounts, I’m living the American dream, financially. And yet apparently I’m poor?
Am I missing something?
And teachers make more money then most people. So the average person is even worse off than this.
I would never be a teacher in America (American).
Yeah but *have you seen* how many useless military inventions we keep creating to kill people overseas?
Seems like a pretty reasonable sacrifice
(Heavy /s)
In the coming years, Filipino migrants (whether legal or illegal) will displace native-born Americans for entry-level school teaching positions.
So tired of hearing about this topic. Teachers are paid exceedingly well for the amount of time they actually work.
This is pretty biased and another example of people using this sub to push an agenda.
“Living comfortably” is tremendously subjective and they’ve just pulled that definition out of thin air based on arbitrary definitions. They’ve said it should mean spending 50% of income on necessities (eg rent, food), 30% on discretionary spending (eg vacation, dining out) and saving 20%. That’s a VERY comfortable lifestyle – most people will tell you it’s normal to spend 30% on rent alone so this is a much better-than-average level of financial security.
What their math says is they to “live comfortably” you need to earn something like *$90-100k ANNUAL SALARY*. Median individual income in the US is $48k, so they’re saying teachers should make *DOUBLE* the average person. They’ve just used this creative framing because if they came out and said “teachers should make double average salary” or “teachers should make $100k” people would reject the idea as nonsense (because it is).
That doesn’t even get into the matter of claiming teachers (by their framework) should be saving 20% annually for retirement (which is very high) despite the PENSION they have which effectively already offers them a very comfortable retirement income without requiring them to do any personal retirement savings. This is asking to have your cake and eat it too – to have a luxe pension while also being paid like you don’t.
This feels a lot like paid promotion for teachers unions disguised as objective unbiased research / writing.