China managed to get a hold of parts from an F-35 stealth fighter jet after a[ ](https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/UPS:US)UPS employee missed an email warning not to route the shipment through Hong Kong, according to a person briefed on the incident.
The email from freight forwarder firm DSV said that the parts — an F-35 cockpit canopy and weapons-bay door coated in radar-absorbing material — must not transit through certain countries to comply with the US International Traffic in Arms Regulations.
The shipment of warplane parts was originally meant to travel to San Francisco via South Korea and Taiwan — both US defense partners. But the shipment was late leaving Australia and was mistakenly routed via Hong Kong in an effort to speed up delivery, the person said, declining to be named because they weren’t authorized to speak publicly.
F-35 parts delivery has about the same workflow as my $14 thermos delivery from Amazon?
BigFuckHead_ on
Fall guy located
Bishopjones2112 on
Ah one missed email properly Identifies how completely fucked the system of military logistics is.
hmoonves on
WHOOPSIE DAISY 🤷🏻♂️
Tdluxon on
They send f35 parts via ups?! 😂😂🤦🤦
Alarmed-Extension289 on
Everything about this should be enough to permanatley ban the use of UPS (and FEDEX) from transporting sensitive equipment (or any for that matter).
All of this sounds super fishy to me, so it accidentaly went to China last minute, and the Chinesse were expecting it? How?
Literally_A_Halfling on
I cannot *possibly* be the only person who assumed this shit would be shipped by a military courier, right?
newtochas on
If a missed email allowed this, this was only the tip of the incompetence iceburg
eagle2493 on
The idea that anyone is like “yeah man, thanks to this UPS dimwit china got our super secret plane parts” is laughable, but that’s where we are
odiin1731 on
This ~~could~~ **shouldn’t** have been an email.
midsidephase on
more and more the assumption that a sent email is proof enough that it has been read and acknowledged is pretty messed up.
SilverNeptuneAbyss on
>Debbie Brown was a supervisor at UPS who was responsible for handling an important shipment issue. An email containing critical information was sent to her, but she was out sick that day and never saw it. Because the email wasn’t acted on, the shipment was mishandled and the problem eventually became a bigger issue. There is some confusion about why Debbie was absent, with different explanations given about whether she had the flu, with others remembering she had a dentist appointment. Management ultimately concluded that Debbie had failed to do her job and held her responsible for the missed email and the resulting problems, and terminated her employment. There was even talk of collecting money to „help Debbie out,“ along with a consolation card, although nobody was entirely clear on where that money was going, or if she even got it.
poppin-n-sailin on
There are some unbelievably glaring issues if this security process relies on an email. This fucking reeks of someone being pinned as the fall guy to cover up a scandal.
bareboneschicken on
You can send items classified as secret through the USPS.
cors8 on
Insane how it all relied on one person apparently.
Normal process would be to stop shipments without approval, not go ahead with shipping….
Mrrrrggggl on
They are shipping it via UPS?!!
CourierFive on
Top secret US Air Force hardware and UPS worker in the same sentence.
You know, somehow that doesn’t even surprise me, at this point.
Alan157 on
Yeah… I don’t buy that.
jhill515 on
Wait… So F-35 Australian Variant parts were shipped to Hong Kong… Due to a lowly UPS employee *missing* an email? So much for ISO 9001 Compliance!
the_blackfish on
Can we not UPS state secrets?
Tedsallis on
But yeah, definitely privatize everything.
hfidek on
How did china get hold of the info? was it label “ ultra secret American weapon“?
canadianwhitemagic on
Well this is concerning. I guess i won’t be UPSing my top secret, classified fighter jet parts anymore. Time to find a new courier.
#eyeroll
readthatlastyear on
Why are governments trusting ups to deliver confidential military parts lol
giggity_giggity on
You’d think that important security matters wouldn’t depend upon “did you get my email?”
Uncle_Paul_Hargis on
Maybe give the guy a phone call for something a bit more urgent?
Galadeon on
Like….. ummmm…… why does the AIR Force not have military transport flights for parts to air bases??????
TwiggyPom on
What’s the real reason?
12somewhere on
It should have never fall onto the UPS worker to begin with. Some else much higher messed up.
KovyJackson on
The UPS worker shouldn’t have been in this situation to begin with…
FutureThought4936 on
Why the fuck are we relying on emails for national security instead of a bright red warning label on the fucking shipment???
Nick85er on
The ITAR statement should have been on the air waybill, wild that handling allowed this to be routed through China in any way.
Crazy that they decided to use UPS instead of working directly with an air carrier. Oh well, Freight forwarders are gonna Freight forward
This-Is-Spacta on
Ho Lee Fuk 😲
NTufnel11 on
There’s no confirmation step? You just fire off an email that this shipment is flagged as critical for national seurity and just trust they got it and and act on it?
I know no quality team would ever approve that process, and I assume such a process is necessary to be a carrier for classified items.
So this sounds like bullshit to me.
egospiers on
This is an institutional failure not the fault of one lowly UPS employee… such bullshit.
scobeavs on
In my industry, if you have an urgent matter or one that it’s critical that someone gets the message, sending an email is not enough. There’s a variety of reasons that an email could get missed, and as the sender who knows this, it’s my responsibility to make sure critical messages are received. The lady who got fired is clearly a scapegoat here.
Loki-L on
This sounds like the kind of thing you might actually dedicate a phone call to and not just leave with an email that may or may not get read.
radium_eye on
Of course there are internal, secure methods of transporting critical national security goods which were opted against in favor of fucking UPS, huh? Absolute clowns in charge.
awesumjon on
Who decided an email was the best method of communication? Of all things that could have been an email, this was probably not one.
Nervous_Counter_1333 on
They fucking used UPS
Ban UPS from shipping sensitive shit.
-waveydavey- on
Everything he touches turns to shit. His literal goal is the same as Putin’s, destroy America
CameStainedRag on
Yeah, that’s where things fell apart. Definitely blame the UPS guy 🙄
EBXLBRVEKJVEOJHARTB on
FedEx would have left it in front of Vietnam’s door, making China wander around the neighborhood looking for it
trogdan on
That’s right. It’s the worker’s fault, always. /s
Leaving something critical to an unsecured, no-ACK-required, asynchronous message should be a crime and whoever is responsible for making THAT judgment call is at fault here.
Might as well have left a message on an answering machine in the branch office supply closet or sent a fax.
TheRC135 on
What the fuck is the point of a global network of military logistics if you’re just going to send highly sensitive shit by UPS?
America has lost the fucking plot. Hard to believe this is the same country that put men on the moon.
TinFoilHat_69 on
Just removed the regulatory controls on China chips, EV’s and robots. It sad to see the world burn the free market away for facist oligarchs who tell us what we can and can’t buy.
tomgreen99200 on
Oh right, let’s blame a UPS worker lol.
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*From Bloomberg News reporter Anthony Capaccio:*
China managed to get a hold of parts from an F-35 stealth fighter jet after a[ ](https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/UPS:US)UPS employee missed an email warning not to route the shipment through Hong Kong, according to a person briefed on the incident.
The email from freight forwarder firm DSV said that the parts — an F-35 cockpit canopy and weapons-bay door coated in radar-absorbing material — must not transit through certain countries to comply with the US International Traffic in Arms Regulations.
The shipment of warplane parts was originally meant to travel to San Francisco via South Korea and Taiwan — both US defense partners. But the shipment was late leaving Australia and was mistakenly routed via Hong Kong in an effort to speed up delivery, the person said, declining to be named because they weren’t authorized to speak publicly.
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F-35 parts delivery has about the same workflow as my $14 thermos delivery from Amazon?
Fall guy located
Ah one missed email properly Identifies how completely fucked the system of military logistics is.
WHOOPSIE DAISY 🤷🏻♂️
They send f35 parts via ups?! 😂😂🤦🤦
Everything about this should be enough to permanatley ban the use of UPS (and FEDEX) from transporting sensitive equipment (or any for that matter).
All of this sounds super fishy to me, so it accidentaly went to China last minute, and the Chinesse were expecting it? How?
I cannot *possibly* be the only person who assumed this shit would be shipped by a military courier, right?
If a missed email allowed this, this was only the tip of the incompetence iceburg
The idea that anyone is like “yeah man, thanks to this UPS dimwit china got our super secret plane parts” is laughable, but that’s where we are
This ~~could~~ **shouldn’t** have been an email.
more and more the assumption that a sent email is proof enough that it has been read and acknowledged is pretty messed up.
>Debbie Brown was a supervisor at UPS who was responsible for handling an important shipment issue. An email containing critical information was sent to her, but she was out sick that day and never saw it. Because the email wasn’t acted on, the shipment was mishandled and the problem eventually became a bigger issue. There is some confusion about why Debbie was absent, with different explanations given about whether she had the flu, with others remembering she had a dentist appointment. Management ultimately concluded that Debbie had failed to do her job and held her responsible for the missed email and the resulting problems, and terminated her employment. There was even talk of collecting money to „help Debbie out,“ along with a consolation card, although nobody was entirely clear on where that money was going, or if she even got it.
There are some unbelievably glaring issues if this security process relies on an email. This fucking reeks of someone being pinned as the fall guy to cover up a scandal.
You can send items classified as secret through the USPS.
Insane how it all relied on one person apparently.
Normal process would be to stop shipments without approval, not go ahead with shipping….
They are shipping it via UPS?!!
Top secret US Air Force hardware and UPS worker in the same sentence.
You know, somehow that doesn’t even surprise me, at this point.
Yeah… I don’t buy that.
Wait… So F-35 Australian Variant parts were shipped to Hong Kong… Due to a lowly UPS employee *missing* an email? So much for ISO 9001 Compliance!
Can we not UPS state secrets?
But yeah, definitely privatize everything.
How did china get hold of the info? was it label “ ultra secret American weapon“?
Well this is concerning. I guess i won’t be UPSing my top secret, classified fighter jet parts anymore. Time to find a new courier.
#eyeroll
Why are governments trusting ups to deliver confidential military parts lol
You’d think that important security matters wouldn’t depend upon “did you get my email?”
Maybe give the guy a phone call for something a bit more urgent?
Like….. ummmm…… why does the AIR Force not have military transport flights for parts to air bases??????
What’s the real reason?
It should have never fall onto the UPS worker to begin with. Some else much higher messed up.
The UPS worker shouldn’t have been in this situation to begin with…
Why the fuck are we relying on emails for national security instead of a bright red warning label on the fucking shipment???
The ITAR statement should have been on the air waybill, wild that handling allowed this to be routed through China in any way.
Crazy that they decided to use UPS instead of working directly with an air carrier. Oh well, Freight forwarders are gonna Freight forward
Ho Lee Fuk 😲
There’s no confirmation step? You just fire off an email that this shipment is flagged as critical for national seurity and just trust they got it and and act on it?
I know no quality team would ever approve that process, and I assume such a process is necessary to be a carrier for classified items.
So this sounds like bullshit to me.
This is an institutional failure not the fault of one lowly UPS employee… such bullshit.
In my industry, if you have an urgent matter or one that it’s critical that someone gets the message, sending an email is not enough. There’s a variety of reasons that an email could get missed, and as the sender who knows this, it’s my responsibility to make sure critical messages are received. The lady who got fired is clearly a scapegoat here.
This sounds like the kind of thing you might actually dedicate a phone call to and not just leave with an email that may or may not get read.
Of course there are internal, secure methods of transporting critical national security goods which were opted against in favor of fucking UPS, huh? Absolute clowns in charge.
Who decided an email was the best method of communication? Of all things that could have been an email, this was probably not one.
They fucking used UPS
Ban UPS from shipping sensitive shit.
Everything he touches turns to shit. His literal goal is the same as Putin’s, destroy America
Yeah, that’s where things fell apart. Definitely blame the UPS guy 🙄
FedEx would have left it in front of Vietnam’s door, making China wander around the neighborhood looking for it
That’s right. It’s the worker’s fault, always. /s
Leaving something critical to an unsecured, no-ACK-required, asynchronous message should be a crime and whoever is responsible for making THAT judgment call is at fault here.
Might as well have left a message on an answering machine in the branch office supply closet or sent a fax.
What the fuck is the point of a global network of military logistics if you’re just going to send highly sensitive shit by UPS?
America has lost the fucking plot. Hard to believe this is the same country that put men on the moon.
Just removed the regulatory controls on China chips, EV’s and robots. It sad to see the world burn the free market away for facist oligarchs who tell us what we can and can’t buy.
Oh right, let’s blame a UPS worker lol.