Data: OpenStreetMap
Roads: Drive times from Valhalla (open-source routing)
Basemap: OpenFreeMap / OpenMapTiles.
Tools: Node.js, MapLibre GL JS, HTML canvas
In this simulation it is assumed that you drive 10% under the speed limit. This is to account for traffic, construction, and breaks. This is likely not enough of a penalty in the core of the cities, but is likely too much for the rural country roads. In future versions I may try to use population density as a proxy for this multiplier.
Things I am working on: trains, population / population density, and waypoint suggestions
dancingbanana123 on
What are the speed limits for Australian highways? I would’ve assumed it’d be like Texas or something where you can go around 75+ mph in empty areas.
Justryan95 on
I’m really curious of those empty zones in core or the 2 two rings around the major cities. Why is there white spots? Is that just because there is no road there or does it really take over 8 hours to get to a spot only 20 miles from NYC
Kinesquared on
google says new york to raleigh is 7 hours 59 minutes. makes me doubt the data
TacTurtle on
Now do Alaska, like say Kenai or Homer.
TheGrayBox on
Coastal people have no appreciation for what a huge population center the Midwest is
KitSokudo on
Florida is fun, you can be 8 hours into the state and still not to the Florida Keys.
wrenwood2018 on
I like the idea. I wish the color scales were more divergent though. It is easy to see 0 vs. 8, but the steps in between aren’t as clear.
pk4k on
Assuming no traffic? Once took me 8 hours to get from Santa Monica to Palm Springs
Loki-L on
You know, I can walk to the nearest public transportation and with a few transfers within 8 hours I am in another country.
In fact within 8 hours I can reach every single neighboring country in every direction and in some cases even the country beyond that.
And the best part is I don’t even have to pay attention most of the time.
Fun_Taste7414 on
I would love to see them on the same map, as in the 3 US ones together and the 3 Australia ones together
notthefunyun on
I’d add the standard *laughs in Texan* line, but Australia’s on here, so I guess I should shut the fuck up
smp-machine on
The Chicago one is messing with me a little since I know it takes more than 8 hours to drive from Detroit to Houghton, MI and that’s without ever leaving the state.
darthy_parker on
You can definitely get from Chicago to Toronto in 8 hours, at the right time of day (I.e. night).
New York (from Manhattan, Battery Park which is the worst case) to Toronto is 8h 30, so from anywhere more reasonable it could be 8 hours. Anyway, farther than this map shows.
crystallinef on
Chicago to Upper Michigan is pretty accurate! Just took this drive and right around 7 hours to hit the edge and then another hour to go further
draypresct on
I believe there are websites with average speeds for these cities, which are often slower than 10% below the speed limit.
This is incorrect, at least as far as Los Angeles goes. We speed in California. You can get to SF in 5-6 hours depending on traffic.
OreoSpeedwaggon on
Says you, mate! No MFP out there is catching the Nightrider for speeding except Max Rockatansky!
DroidSoldier85 on
Now do the opposite Tijuana to Los Angeles on a weekend. It can be between 3-5 hours just to pass 1-2 miles to get to the border and another 3 hours to get to LA. 8 hours right there.
Same for those coming from LAS Vegas after an event. Easy 8 hours just to get into LA
nikstick22 on
It’s 8hr 26 min from NYC to Toronto right now at 5:01 pm, so I can’t imagine that 8 hours of driving would only get you to St Catherines. You should at least be able to make it to Hamilton.
danrennt98 on
Half the time it takes 7 hours from NY to Boston
kzig on
Now do Point Roberts! Don’t forget to take into account border crossing delays 😛
eron6000ad on
From Houston, 8 hours would get you to Ft. Stockton, Texas, 500 miles away. El Paso, Texas is another 3 hours making it a total of 11 hours (750 miles), and you are still in Texas.
el_lley on
So, from LA m, Chicago, and NY you could visit a different country, take that Australia
expatfella on
You could get further in Australia, except there aren’t any roads.
RHX_Thain on
8 hours from LA, you can be in Phoenix, and wish you weren’t!
Training-Airport-639 on
New York is significantly overstated. I’m pretty sure you’d still be sitting in Manhattan traffic trying to get across town.
Chadlerk on
Are you driving in LA at 3am?
PmMeYourNiceBehind on
Really puts in perspective how much more developed the eastern side of America is vs the western side
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Data: OpenStreetMap
Roads: Drive times from Valhalla (open-source routing)
Basemap: OpenFreeMap / OpenMapTiles.
Tools: Node.js, MapLibre GL JS, HTML canvas
In this simulation it is assumed that you drive 10% under the speed limit. This is to account for traffic, construction, and breaks. This is likely not enough of a penalty in the core of the cities, but is likely too much for the rural country roads. In future versions I may try to use population density as a proxy for this multiplier.
Things I am working on: trains, population / population density, and waypoint suggestions
What are the speed limits for Australian highways? I would’ve assumed it’d be like Texas or something where you can go around 75+ mph in empty areas.
I’m really curious of those empty zones in core or the 2 two rings around the major cities. Why is there white spots? Is that just because there is no road there or does it really take over 8 hours to get to a spot only 20 miles from NYC
google says new york to raleigh is 7 hours 59 minutes. makes me doubt the data
Now do Alaska, like say Kenai or Homer.
Coastal people have no appreciation for what a huge population center the Midwest is
Florida is fun, you can be 8 hours into the state and still not to the Florida Keys.
I like the idea. I wish the color scales were more divergent though. It is easy to see 0 vs. 8, but the steps in between aren’t as clear.
Assuming no traffic? Once took me 8 hours to get from Santa Monica to Palm Springs
You know, I can walk to the nearest public transportation and with a few transfers within 8 hours I am in another country.
In fact within 8 hours I can reach every single neighboring country in every direction and in some cases even the country beyond that.
[https://www.chronotrains.com/en](https://www.chronotrains.com/en)
And the best part is I don’t even have to pay attention most of the time.
I would love to see them on the same map, as in the 3 US ones together and the 3 Australia ones together
I’d add the standard *laughs in Texan* line, but Australia’s on here, so I guess I should shut the fuck up
The Chicago one is messing with me a little since I know it takes more than 8 hours to drive from Detroit to Houghton, MI and that’s without ever leaving the state.
You can definitely get from Chicago to Toronto in 8 hours, at the right time of day (I.e. night).
New York (from Manhattan, Battery Park which is the worst case) to Toronto is 8h 30, so from anywhere more reasonable it could be 8 hours. Anyway, farther than this map shows.
Chicago to Upper Michigan is pretty accurate! Just took this drive and right around 7 hours to hit the edge and then another hour to go further
I believe there are websites with average speeds for these cities, which are often slower than 10% below the speed limit.
https://www.tomtom.com/traffic-index/ranking/
This is incorrect, at least as far as Los Angeles goes. We speed in California. You can get to SF in 5-6 hours depending on traffic.
Says you, mate! No MFP out there is catching the Nightrider for speeding except Max Rockatansky!
Now do the opposite Tijuana to Los Angeles on a weekend. It can be between 3-5 hours just to pass 1-2 miles to get to the border and another 3 hours to get to LA. 8 hours right there.
Same for those coming from LAS Vegas after an event. Easy 8 hours just to get into LA
It’s 8hr 26 min from NYC to Toronto right now at 5:01 pm, so I can’t imagine that 8 hours of driving would only get you to St Catherines. You should at least be able to make it to Hamilton.
Half the time it takes 7 hours from NY to Boston
Now do Point Roberts! Don’t forget to take into account border crossing delays 😛
From Houston, 8 hours would get you to Ft. Stockton, Texas, 500 miles away. El Paso, Texas is another 3 hours making it a total of 11 hours (750 miles), and you are still in Texas.
So, from LA m, Chicago, and NY you could visit a different country, take that Australia
You could get further in Australia, except there aren’t any roads.
8 hours from LA, you can be in Phoenix, and wish you weren’t!
New York is significantly overstated. I’m pretty sure you’d still be sitting in Manhattan traffic trying to get across town.
Are you driving in LA at 3am?
Really puts in perspective how much more developed the eastern side of America is vs the western side