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    1. Akanksha-Ka-Pati on

      Israel: 2 state solution

      UK: 4 state solution

      Russia: Multi state solution

      I am seeing a trend here

    2. lol maybe China should start a goal to dissolve Germany? Or Austria? It’s been a while.

    3. paneuropeanism_ on

      Karl von Habsburg argues for a more offensive security strategy against Russia as leaders in Europe weigh a forceful response to Moscow’s increasingly belligerent actions against Europe. Russia’s own activities include major actions to break up the European Union and full-on hybrid war. 

      One of the options would be to
      return the favor in terms of kinetic action but also to support the independence groups. The EU’s Institute for Security recently said that Europe must be prepared to [conduct covert actions](https://www.rtl.nl/nieuws/buitenland/artikel/5647552/meer-hybride-aanvallen-op-europa-door-rusland-zeggen-experts) 
      inside Russia. 

    4. I don’t like this at all, it’s feeding Russia’s victim mentality. I wish for a prosperous Russia. I don’t want to break it apart. The invasion of Ukraine was an European failure, Europe failed to stand strong and united. If Europe looked like it would have been 100% willing to invade Russia because of Ukriane the war would have never started. 

    5. I’m sorry, I understand that I am here to practice proper decorum as is appropriate for an academic setting.

      But I’m too busy being tickled. I have been paying more attention to various problems and just completely missed this particularly point of data.

      The (honorary) president of the Paneuropean Union……..is a Habsburg?

      Europe is so fascinating. I love history.

    6. Immediate-Home-3491 on

      The online obsession with spectacle misses the point. I know Dubai’s metro ran and dinner arrived via Deliveroo throughout. For anyone moving cargo through the UAE, continuity of operations is the real story.

    7. thowaway8273401 on

      A Novgorod State and a Muscovite State would be amazing.

      Yes, blatant ai-slop below, but a person can dream:

      # Feasibility Assessment

      |Dimension|Novgorod State|Muscovite State|Verdict|
      |:-|:-|:-|:-|
      |Population/Territory|~15-20M (NW Russia: St. Petersburg region, Novgorod, Pskov, Karelia)|~110-130M (Moscow core + Urals + southern breadbasket)|Both viable; Muscovy much larger|
      |Security/NATO|Could join NATO or EU orbit; geographically safer|Landlocked from west; faces China border; more vulnerable|Novgorod advantaged for Western integration|
      |Resources|Timber, fish, ports (Baltic + Arctic); limited oil/gas|Oil, gas, minerals, fertile land; energy-rich|Muscovy resource-superior, but Novgorod viable|
      |Trade Routes|Arctic passages, Baltic shipping, EU access; pan-European rail|Trans-Siberian rail, Central Asia, China, India|Both have distinct advantages|
      |Climate Change|Arctic warming opens major new shipping lanes (Barents, Northern Route)|Access to melting ice, but southern advantage erodes|Novgorod gets a *major* boost|
      |Economy Model|Tech hub (St. Pete already is), financial services, tourism, high-value exports|Agriculture, energy, manufacturing, heavy industry|Complementary specialization|
      |GDP Per Capita Potential|Could rival Nordic countries (~$80-90K)|Could be upper-middle income (~$25-35K)|Novgorod more prosperous per capita|

      # Why This Could Actually Work

      # Geographic and Economic Complementarity

      Novgorod would essentially be a Nordic/Baltic state — wealthy, trade-dependent, tech and service-oriented. St. Petersburg is already one of Russia’s most European cities. It has:

      * Direct access to EU markets via Baltic Sea
      * Arctic ports becoming viable year-round (Northern Sea Route)
      * Skilled workforce already oriented toward Western business
      * Tourism, finance, software, advanced manufacturing

      Muscovy would be a continental Eurasian power — resource and agricultural-based, oriented toward Asia and Central Asia. It has:

      * Trans-Siberian rail dominance
      * Pan-Asia rail corridors (China, Kazakhstan, Mongolia)
      * Oil, gas, minerals for export
      * Vast agricultural land (southern regions especially fertile)

      These aren’t competing — they’re complementary. Novgorod doesn’t need oil; Muscovy doesn’t need financial services as urgently.

      # Modern Global Institutions Change the Game

      UN, WTO, trade agreements, and multilateral institutions fundamentally alter the security calculus:

      * No military threat to each other — Both are in a globalized order where major war is economically catastrophic. Neither can conquest the other without destroying themselves.
      * NATO/EU for Novgorod — Could join Western institutions, gaining security guarantees. Poland, Baltics, and Finland would support a pro-Western Novgorod.
      * SCO/BRI for Muscovy — Could integrate deeper into Shanghai Cooperation Organization, Belt and Road, ASEAN+. Less wealthy but secure via China, Central Asia partnerships.
      * Interdependence creates stability — Trade ties, shared supply chains, and mutual economic interest replace military competition.

      Would a hypothetical separated Russia produce better outcomes for ordinary people? Almost certainly yes in Novgorod (Nordic-level prosperity, democratic stability). Muscovy would be less wealthy per capita, but still middle-income secure and stable — better than current Russian trajectories.

      But politically, it’s nearly impossible because:

      * Russians don’t see themselves as two peoples
      * The emotional/historical cost would be enormous
      * Muscovy’s long-term trajectory (as a secondary power) would feel like a loss

    8. No-Economics-6781 on

      If it’s a Habsburg saying this, I expect historians to eventually conclude that this eventually will happen.

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