Microsoft-Manager nannten das KI-Scraping „den größten Arbeitsdiebstahl in der Geschichte der Menschheit“, wie aus neuen, nicht redigierten Akten hervorgeht
Microsoft-Manager nannten das KI-Scraping „den größten Arbeitsdiebstahl in der Geschichte der Menschheit“, wie aus neuen, nicht redigierten Akten hervorgeht
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No One needs labor or work. You need money, not labor, nor work.
We need regulation on ip theft that protects us all
Criminal copyright violation has put people in prison and I don’t get why the tech companies get a free pass here. Sam, Sundar, Dario and the others should face criminal investigation for this if we had a fair justice system.
Microsoft exec called the scraping the largest theft of labor ever. That undercuts their fair use story pretty bad when they knew it hurt the sources.
They stripped notices and dodged paywalls. openai leaders flagged it as threat to news.
Down the line ai training gets way more expensive or limited if lawsuits keep landing.
This is a smoking gun on the level of the Pinto Memo, right? Not just proving that what they were doing was wrong, but proving that they knew it was wrong and that they did it anyway, willfully.
You mean people setting up massive scrapping operations… This happened way before AI to get training data and still is.
AI has very little to do with the actual scrapping.
Blame the U.S government for not giving two fucks about our digital rights.
They saw cookies and thought they were real cookies and just stopped there. Every post on reddit including this is a gold mine. And the users dont get anything except happy cake day.
I mean.. yea.. but let’s not kid ourselves they are saying this now because Microsoft no longer has a competitive LLM. If they were on top it would be full steam ahead
„The largest theft of labor in human history“ is a hell of a thing to write in an internal memo at the company bankrolling it.
and yet not single law suit, or mass imprisonment…
these companies are now organized crime
I don’t actually have a problem with scraping. I think a lot of copyright and patent rules are dumb, arbitrary and stifle growth.
What I despise is all that data being turned into proprietary data when it’s literally the sum of human knowledge.
Why the fuck do you get to keep the results a secret and locked up in your commically large piles of capital when it’s my data? It could and should be open to everyone.
Microsoft is against theft now?
This is like the thief coming home to find he’s been burglarized.
I’m sure slavery for thousands of years is probably a slightly larger theft of labour
Perhaps the largest theft of labor in history is companies like Microsoft rigging the system with corrupt politicians, years after year, to pay workers the tiniest slice of the pie that those same workers bake each day.
But this time, it’s one oligarch stacking the deck against other oligarchs.
Is this microsoft admitting guilt when the told their own developers under them they must have the AI watch and learn how to develop games ?
No kidding.
AI literally belongs to the public. These tech bros are thieves.
And they were mad at us for pirating a movie or two lol. It’s OK when the big corporations do it.
> The brief cited an internal memo dated January 2023 by Microsoft director of Applied Science Brent Hecht, where he allegedly said, “Millions of people around the world will soon consider large models ‘hoovering up’ all their work to be an astonishing theft of unprecedented proportions” and also called it “the largest theft of labor in human history.” Another Microsoft document was cited saying, “almost no one intended for content they created to be used in this fashion, nor are they compensated for its use.”
My issue is that doesn’t say Ex- Microsoft executive. Continues to work for the corp.