The fossil fuels that we’ve been burning for more than a century produce two very different kinds of pollution. As is well known, carbon dioxide warms the Earth. But less well-known is sulphur pollution, which forms vast numbers of tiny particles in the air and reflects sunlight back into space, partly counteracting the warming effect of carbon.
Thanks to clean-air policies around the world – like the US’s Acid Rain Program in the early 1990s, that reduced gas pollution from power plants – sulphur emissions are falling sharply while carbon dioxide emissions remain near record highs.
Scientists increasingly believe the loss of that cooling effect is slightly speeding up global warming.
Lexx4 on
Hank did a video on this a while back. The dirty fuel that cargo ships used created clouds that prevented the heating of the ocean. When they stopped using that dirty fuel the clouds cleared up and the ocean started to heat up. The burning fuel mades it worse in the long run.
Sniflix on
That’s horseshit. Fossil fuel industry is trying distract you from the fact they are causing the runaway CO2 that’s cooking this planet. This was well known since the 70s and they denied it and covered it up ultimately trying to blame environmentalists for their evil destruction. There’s no „good emissions“ from fossil fuels. The coal, oil and gas industry spent trillions to buy politicians, publish lies and create a whole system of FUD to allow them to kill the planet and make them wealthy beyond imagination. They are still doing it and this BS article is an example.
LaFlamaBlancaMiM on
Oh yay, more bad news!
As a millennial, I’m tired, y’all…. real tired.
AnthropoidCompatriot on
BBC is finally trying to make us subscribe, at *this* point?
That might have worked better *before* the precipitous drop-off in quality and at least pretend neutrality.
BrillsonHawk on
The amount of coal dust in the air in the victorian period caused a cooling effect as well
OGLikeablefellow on
So we need to keep on burning fossil fuels and turn down regulations on the factories burning Fossil fuels too so they can be more competitive with green alternatives, I’m just gonna call bullshit
mildweed on
find the book Termination Shock by Neil Stephenson for a great read about a billionaire intentionally shooting sulphur into the stratosphere to combat global warming.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termination_Shock_(novel)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termination_Shock_(novel))
Ok time to pump that sulphur into the air! Devil style!
jthadcast on
everything, and i mean everything humans do creates new problems. that’s the problem is humans doing too much.
ProfessorFunky on
Yay for the law of unintended consequences!
It’s almost like understanding a horrendously complex global system might be hard. And making a big change to a single thing might not give the desired outcome. I wonder what surprise we’ll get from tinkering with the next thing.
Although the whole CFC ozone thing was a bit of a win.
2020mademejoinreddit on
It is hilarious that people dug their own graves with this.
lllDogalll on
I mean that makes sense. India is probably the worst place to be with its unchecked pollution due to corruption but when I see comments from western countries I was suprised.
Initially I thought they were pussies crying about 38~40 degree temprature in Europe. But frankly when we have clear skies and lower AQI during our rainy season, I kinda get their point about discomfort from intense sunlight & need for sunscreen (which I have never applied whatever SP-xyz that is ).
Bright sunlight during clear skies is pretty painful if local pollution is low, no matter amount of melanin (or was it melatonin I forget) present on outer epidermal layer of your skin.
Joucifer on
There’s a documentary about Global Dimming that talks about the temperature rise in the days following 9/11 due to the lack of airplanes in the sky.
EconomicRegret2 on
> Under policies governments currently have in place, the world is estimated to be heading for around 2.8C of warming by the end of the century. Forster says that if this new evidence proves correct, the same broad emissions path could instead produce warming closer to 3.5C.
Nothing to worry about, everything’s fine.
mrstevegibbs on
Global Dimming. It’s a real thing. There are documentaries on it.
Sneezeface on
Because comments that are short get removed apparently I’ll use it after my introduction.
I’m so tired.
VRGIMP27 on
This isn’t really bad news per say, (though it isn’t great news)
it’s that we’ve become so good at cleaning up nox and sox emissions, that now we are missing a fundamental part of the chemistry that would ordinarily counteract some of the warming effects of the carbon dioxide during a combustion event.
Think of a volcano. It spits out a ton of CO2 and methane very quickly, but it also puts out sulfur dioxide and a lot of ash. The ash blocks light, the sulfur dioxide counteracts some of the effects of the CO2 and method at least in the short term.
Global shipping was releasing a ton of sulfur dioxide because of the exhaust from the fuel, but we stopped using it, so now that masking effect of the warming is no longer present.
Able-Bedroom5731 on
so are we basically saying the pollution was acting like a sunshade
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The fossil fuels that we’ve been burning for more than a century produce two very different kinds of pollution. As is well known, carbon dioxide warms the Earth. But less well-known is sulphur pollution, which forms vast numbers of tiny particles in the air and reflects sunlight back into space, partly counteracting the warming effect of carbon.
Thanks to clean-air policies around the world – like the US’s Acid Rain Program in the early 1990s, that reduced gas pollution from power plants – sulphur emissions are falling sharply while carbon dioxide emissions remain near record highs.
Scientists increasingly believe the loss of that cooling effect is slightly speeding up global warming.
Hank did a video on this a while back. The dirty fuel that cargo ships used created clouds that prevented the heating of the ocean. When they stopped using that dirty fuel the clouds cleared up and the ocean started to heat up. The burning fuel mades it worse in the long run.
That’s horseshit. Fossil fuel industry is trying distract you from the fact they are causing the runaway CO2 that’s cooking this planet. This was well known since the 70s and they denied it and covered it up ultimately trying to blame environmentalists for their evil destruction. There’s no „good emissions“ from fossil fuels. The coal, oil and gas industry spent trillions to buy politicians, publish lies and create a whole system of FUD to allow them to kill the planet and make them wealthy beyond imagination. They are still doing it and this BS article is an example.
Oh yay, more bad news!
As a millennial, I’m tired, y’all…. real tired.
BBC is finally trying to make us subscribe, at *this* point?
That might have worked better *before* the precipitous drop-off in quality and at least pretend neutrality.
The amount of coal dust in the air in the victorian period caused a cooling effect as well
So we need to keep on burning fossil fuels and turn down regulations on the factories burning Fossil fuels too so they can be more competitive with green alternatives, I’m just gonna call bullshit
find the book Termination Shock by Neil Stephenson for a great read about a billionaire intentionally shooting sulphur into the stratosphere to combat global warming.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termination_Shock_(novel)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termination_Shock_(novel))
Stratospheric aerosol injection:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_aerosol_injection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_aerosol_injection)
Stardust Solutions is trying to make this real
Ok time to pump that sulphur into the air! Devil style!
everything, and i mean everything humans do creates new problems. that’s the problem is humans doing too much.
Yay for the law of unintended consequences!
It’s almost like understanding a horrendously complex global system might be hard. And making a big change to a single thing might not give the desired outcome. I wonder what surprise we’ll get from tinkering with the next thing.
Although the whole CFC ozone thing was a bit of a win.
It is hilarious that people dug their own graves with this.
I mean that makes sense. India is probably the worst place to be with its unchecked pollution due to corruption but when I see comments from western countries I was suprised.
Initially I thought they were pussies crying about 38~40 degree temprature in Europe. But frankly when we have clear skies and lower AQI during our rainy season, I kinda get their point about discomfort from intense sunlight & need for sunscreen (which I have never applied whatever SP-xyz that is ).
Bright sunlight during clear skies is pretty painful if local pollution is low, no matter amount of melanin (or was it melatonin I forget) present on outer epidermal layer of your skin.
There’s a documentary about Global Dimming that talks about the temperature rise in the days following 9/11 due to the lack of airplanes in the sky.
> Under policies governments currently have in place, the world is estimated to be heading for around 2.8C of warming by the end of the century. Forster says that if this new evidence proves correct, the same broad emissions path could instead produce warming closer to 3.5C.
Nothing to worry about, everything’s fine.
Global Dimming. It’s a real thing. There are documentaries on it.
Because comments that are short get removed apparently I’ll use it after my introduction.
I’m so tired.
This isn’t really bad news per say, (though it isn’t great news)
it’s that we’ve become so good at cleaning up nox and sox emissions, that now we are missing a fundamental part of the chemistry that would ordinarily counteract some of the warming effects of the carbon dioxide during a combustion event.
Think of a volcano. It spits out a ton of CO2 and methane very quickly, but it also puts out sulfur dioxide and a lot of ash. The ash blocks light, the sulfur dioxide counteracts some of the effects of the CO2 and method at least in the short term.
Global shipping was releasing a ton of sulfur dioxide because of the exhaust from the fuel, but we stopped using it, so now that masking effect of the warming is no longer present.
so are we basically saying the pollution was acting like a sunshade