„Klatschen ist ein Recht nach dem ersten Verfassungszusatz:“ Ein Interview mit der Person, die wegen Klatschens bei einer Rechenzentrumsbesprechung verhaftet wurde

    https://www.404media.co/clapping-is-a-first-amendment-right-an-interview-with-the-person-arrested-for-clapping-at-a-data-center-meeting/

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    1. irrelevantusername24 on

      >“We continued to clap, though eventually it started moving to snapping fingers, all beatnik style,” Claridge said. “I did that a little bit too, but in total, I clapped for 13 speeches. I snapped five times, and there were three warnings, a final warning. Then I finally got arrested.”

      What shameful brazen audacity. My flabber hath become gasted

      >The city had even invited Claridge and their wife on a fact finding mission to Pryor, Oklahoma in June. Pryor is home to a massive data center campus that hosts clients like Google and DuPont so Emporia and some of its citizens went to learn how Pryor was feeling about it. Claridge filmed portions of the trip and uploaded them to YouTube.

      >“I was really impressed with what I saw in Pyror, Oklahoma…

      Pyror the burninator

      >I saw all the ad valorem taxes go into things like schools and fire department upgrades. Like the town was wonderful down there, and they brag about how they don’t take any state or federal money for their school system. It’s all paid by the data center, and I think that’s brilliant,” Claridge said. “I would love to see something like that if we can make the benefits outweigh the costs.

      Wait for it

      >Claridge isn’t against data centers as a rule, they just want to make sure it’s done right. But the oddities around the bankrupt developer, the current plan to use 1,000 acres of prairie land, and the combative attitude of the city commission are problems. Claridge pointed out that there are already large tracts of land zoned industrial with buildings that have been empty for 20 years.

      America the wasteful. This story is repeatable across both space and time. This is a much bigger problem than the abstract anger attributed towards datacenters. Not necessarily this specifically, but very related issues about dormant buildings either being intentionally destroyed or priced too high and left empty – and thus destroyed through neglect… or just like, what a wasteful stupid place this is. Except when it comes to the commercial (and now residential) real estate investors who intentionally drive up prices and then force everyone to do all kinds of stupid wasteful commuting – because they already burnt the money so now it must be justified. All the residences near the urban centers are too expensive or there’s no actually jobs there, it’s basically all due to a braindead „organizational“ logic.

      This is the kind of shit that makes me seriously wonder if this country is actually cursed because I don’t understand how if I can figure it out, why can’t all the extremely highly educated and well paid people that literally have done nothing their entire lives except study and think about these problems… why can they not figure it out?

    2. thaiberius_kirk on

      All these tech bros and the people who are pro-tech bros have the thinnest fucking skin.

    3. Pickel_Bucket_317 on

      I’m immediately doing a records request for all meeting minutes/videos and see if anyone clapped for things the council approved and if they were kicked out for it. If not , then a lawsuit for viewpoint discrimination and free speech violations

    4. AvailableReporter484 on

      It doesn’t matter if it’s constitutional or legal or not. When the police are nothing more than the strong arm of the upper class they are the ones who get to decide what gets you locked up.

      Police are a detriment to society. If you truly, unironically believe that the world would fall into anarchy because the police weren’t around you have fundamentally misunderstood the point of society and the social contract. The vast majority of us wouldn’t start raping and murdering because we could. So… defunding the police should continue to be of the upmost importance. Funding healthcare and social programs is a far better investment. But of course that’s all contingent on those maintaining the status quo to let us do that lmfao

    5. fedexyourheadinabox on

      Elon musk whining about blocking deepfake porn, calling it an attack on „free speech,“ but will be absolutely silent on this one. The fucking idiot. 

    6. Cops need to be prosecuted for flagrant violations of civil rights. Qualified immunity should not cover the most obvious incidents of violations of civil rights.

    7. Dingadingdangmy on

      Shit article and premise.

      Person was removed for disrupting and demanded to be “dragged out by cops”

      But go on

    8. WesternWitchy52 on

      I saw the original clip and I was angry on his/their behalf. Also why did others not stand up for him. The way I would have had the whole room clapping.

      There was another protest where a young girl was dragged out by cops and luckily some of the men stood up to help her.

    9. KnotSoSalty on

      Community Meetings where the Community isn’t allowed to speak is a free speech suppression tool.

    10. Mister_Pickl3s on

      Foreign countries and billionaires can fund destructive campaigns against our self interests as a protected right as speech but god forbid we clap

    11. minus_minus on

      Sorry but “time, manner and place” restrictions on expression that are viewpoint neutral are enforceable. I’m sorry the clapper had to learn it this way but the town would win if they take this to court. They’ll likely settle for a pittance tho. 

    12. EfficientAd3625 on

      This guy is getting arrested for clapping. Elon is fighting a case to make AI nudes of real people legal.

      I hate this timeline.

    13. SwordfishOk504 on

      Correction. He was arrested for violating a lawful order, and then telling the police to drag him out.

      Anyone who has ever followed local government knows that rules around things like no applause during these kinds of community meetings is very normal, as is being told to leave when someone breaks that rule. No different than those crazy MAGA moms that crash school board meetings. They can be lawfully removed for breaking the rules. Them choosing to resit that removal results in arrest.

    14. GrumpyCloud93 on

      The first amendment says „the right of the citizens to peacefully assemble and present their grievances…“ I’d think it would be an easy inference that signalling approval of someone’s speech against a government action is „peacefully assemble“.

    15. Clapping is an expression of opinion, which has been repeatedly confirmed by the Supreme Court as being protected by the First Amendment

    16. YorubaOyinbo on

      I remember when Americans acted like they cared about their constitution.

      (And everyone agreed Nazis were bad).

    17. Legitimate-Cress-575 on

      I am legitimately shocked that he was detained because of it, and then needed to mention the first amendment in the court like it was some secret knowledge. America is fucked beyond belief if this is the norm now

    18. He was arrested for refusing to leave after being told to do so. r/quityourbullshit

    19. TarnishedVictory on

      I don’t understand. What’s the actual charge? What law was violated?

    20. >Emporia PD has refused to share a copy of Claridge’s arrest report with 404 Media, saying it “could interfere with ongoing investigative efforts.”

      — „on how the fuck we’re going to get away with this“

    21. SinistralGuy on

      So, how’s that freedom of speech and 2A working out for you Americans?

    22. Electrical-Bee-7362 on

      What the fuck is going on in America. 

      And the worst of all are the pigs just going along with the insane request of a councillor. 

    23. quiet_dog1337 on

      Why are people complying with this bullshit?
      No you may not arrest him, show us a victim.

    24. a_shootin_star on

      I wonder if they’ll still be saying that when they get hauled off by the regime

      Show me an instance where „clapping“ brought about change? Was blood involved in the clapping?

    25. >During the meeting, the commission warned the crowd to stop clapping multiple times, but Claridge walked into the room after the warnings. “We continued to clap, though eventually it started moving to snapping fingers, all beatnik style,” Claridge said. “I did that a little bit too, but in total, I clapped for 13 speeches. I snapped five times, and there were three warnings, a final warning. Then I finally got arrested.”

      I guess that’s like arresting people for for talking in movies or shouting at theaterical performances.

    26. kompergator on

      If anyone, ever, tries to argue that the USA are the “land of the free”, this article should be posted. Fucking dystopian.

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