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    1. Even if true, it’s not a very high bar to clear in multiple categories. It doesn’t mean we’ll be sending the Little Red Book to the best seller list any time soon.

    2. DeusExMarina on

      It’s hard not to right now. Not saying they’re better than the US morally (though we’re rapidly approaching that point) but they can at least be counted on to not self-destruct and drag everyone else down with them. China is not good, but it is a rational actor that you can engage with. The US, right now, is not.

    3. Whatever criticism we had of the USA in the past, we used to sort of give them a pass on a lot of stuff because they’re „on our side“.

      I guess now that they’re explicitly saying „we’re not on your side“, that is changing.

      I don’t think anyone’s opinion of China has actually changed.

    4. For all its faults, at least China is interested in stability. The US used to be interested in the same thing until the last few years.

    5. I absolutely see them as more predictable and reliable. They’re also less dogmatic. I have my issues with China but my opinion has been improving slowly over the last few years. The US meanwhile has nose-dived in the last year and a half for obvious reasons. If I were to buy a Chinese EV and it came out that the CEO had covered up a safety hazard I have a lot more confidence that CEO would face consequences in China than in the US. Down south he would just give Trump a golden gear shift or some silly thing and he’d walk.

    6. the_normal_person on

      I get we’re all elbows up and everything but if you genuinely see china more positively than the US I dont know what to tell you – youre so hypoed up on vague anti-imperialist sentiment that dont think theres coming back

    7. wet_suit_one on

      Well, y’know, when you’re not going around just murdering people on the high seas, you look pretty good by comparison.

      That’s not the U.S. and so it follows…

    8. Honestly as a Canadian (and a few years ago I never thought i’d say this) i’d rather vacation in China than the US nowadays. The US is nothing but a dumpster fire, while China (with many faults of its own) at least seems to be moving forwards as a country and nation.

    9. woundsofwind on

      People still have this imagined idea of China without ever having stepped foot in the country and just paint it with a VERY broad stroke based on what they hear in the media which is very heavily skewed.

      I think it’s hard for most people to comprehend such a different system.

    10. For quite some time there has been the notion that China only puts out cheap crap, But as you get to learn and know more about the things we buy (thanks to Commander in sleep’s constant tarriff threats) it becomes apparent that quality is based on whoes selling.. You can go onto a Chinese retail site and find exactly the same as you would in Walmart etc, for cheaper and better quality if you take your time. Meanwhile most companies here would rather you buy the same thing a couple times so they make sure things are made as cheaply as possible. The more people do that, the more the underlaying idea that China makes only crap dissolves and people start looking at what they purchase and who makes it..

    11. AbsoluteTruthiness on

      My opinion of China has improved leaps and bounds over what it used to be (to be clear though, I am still deeply uncomfortable with the reports out of Xinjiang). They brought hundreds of millions out of severe poverty, cleaned up their air, built insanely good infrastructure in just a span of a decade, are the only serious player in the world in tackling climate change, and are not letting billionaires control their government. I have also grown sceptical of Western narratives about the country.

    12. LotharLandru on

      Dealing with the china is dealing with lawful evil. They are consistent and their motivations and goals are expected but they are a reasonable actor you can negotiate and work with while needing to be careful about said dealings.

      The US is chaotic evil. Their goals change daily at the whim of trump and whatever makes him money/protects him, hurts his perceived enemies. We can’t trust a deal we make with them is worth the paper it’s written on.

      Neither is a good situation but the predictable actor is always preferred over the chaos that we can’t direct or prevent.

    13. I would not say I view China more “positively” than the US, exactly. I’d frame it more as I now view the US as a greater and more immediate threat to Canada and global stability than China. Which is wild.

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