We have to relearn to make our own joy instead of vegitating, waiting for our corporate overlords to make it happen for us.
coconutpiecrust on
>The concept of decadence as a marker of cultural decline coinciding with a high level of wealth has been around since the twilight of the ancient Greeks and Romans. After the Roman emperor Elagabalus took the throne at 14, he served flamingo brains, seasoned his food with pearls, and, according to one account, smothered guests to death with an avalanche of rose petals. But his vices were outdone by Nero, who had his enemies sewn into wild animal skins and devoured by dogs in an elaborate garden spectacle.
Interesting. Social media content seems to get more and more extreme as well, same with looks, art, clothing. Everything is taken to the extreme just for the sake off it. Very interesting piece; it’s funny how human history just keeps repeating itself. We truly do not learn. Not enough lifespanmaxxing to actually internalize life’s lessons and pass them down to the new generation. Same old, same old.
Toasted_Waffle99 on
Because we’ve been optimized to death
gregzillaman on
May the odds be ever in our favor
AGrandNewAdventure on
Who the fuck can afford decadence?!
Torino1O on
It’s called enshitification, and it’s a feature of capitalism without effective oversight.
izza123 on
“I Knew The Future Would Bring Wonders. I Did Not Know It Would Make Them Ordinary.”
**- Dracula**
TJzzz on
Slaanesh feeds well
houstonhilton74 on
No experience no matter how opulent matters if you and those around you are emotionally present. That’s my hot take.
Blazefresh on
It’s partially (probably mostly) because our free time and attention is being exploited and monetized by tech companies at the cost of meaningful connections and responsibilities to the people around us, and to the forming of communities that we’re unable to make and maintain as a consequence. We’re also sold instant dopaminergic reward without actual effort and it’s dulling our senses, it’s important not to overindulge so our baseline for pleasure isn’t so high that pleasurable things don’t feel good anymore. That’s not totally due to big tech, but has increased exponentially since the advent of social media.
ContinuingAnyway on
Somewhere along the way you’ll eventually learn how to have fun in your own little corner of the world, that’s usually enough for one lifetime
Personal_School_7474 on
Here’s the secret to happiness. Close Reddit down right now. Go outside. Move your body around, maybe socialize with other real people, maybe work toward a long term goal, like learning a new skill or finishing a project.
DruidPeter4 on
Jessie, what the fuck are you talking about?
BD401 on
The answer to the question posed is basically that hedonic adaptation works at a societal level and not just individual.
The average working-class person in a developed country has access to technology and comforts that would make a medieval king green with jealousy (indoor plumbing, HVAC, lighting, limitless cheap entertainment, the entirety of human knowledge available at their fingertips etc. etc.). It’s only been for the last couple hundred years that you weren’t right-fucked if you got a toothache or an infected cut. If there was a nuclear war tomorrow that wiped out civilization, the survivors would give literally anything to return to the „enshittified“ world we live in right now.
But society’s frame of reference is always contemporaneous and highly subjective. So because people have grown up with all of these objectively amazing technologies and comforts, they’re taken *completely* for granted. This leaves people’s mental energy free to be directed at points of relative dissatisfaction.
Coady417 on
Ten years ago my mother died, I had a nervous breakdown and triggered 2 autoimmune diseases. I was bedridden for 6 months at a time over 7 years. It was a nightmare. But, with the help of my therapist and wanting to have some kind of purpose for living, we crafted tiny joys. It started with, making tea. The sound of the scoop in the tin, the steam, the pleasure of that first sip. At 65 I started playing my first RPG game and discovered Discord. The game kept my brain alive with strategizing and learning and the community was so incredibly kind and helpful. Young men being kind to an old lady. Then, my Armenian Immigrant neighbors started a weekly movie night for me and I introduced them to some of the greatest films of all time. My friends would come by and we’d just sit and watch tv and order food in. My best friends son loved anime and when he was 12 and I was 64, his mom and he would come over and he introduced me to Anime. Then, when he was 18 he came by himself every week. I fed him and we sat in our big zero gravity chairs and watched Anime and discussed the art of it. He’s 19 now and he just loves to sit with me and watch Anime and ask why is that good why doesn’t that work?
I could no longer be the consumer, the thrill seeker, the world traveler, the runner of tv shows, the most important person in the room, but, my life was full of love and joy and learning and reading and being with people just to be with them.
When everything is robbed from you, there is joy in the mundane. I’m 70 and I’m at peace for the first time in my life.
Adventurous_Rush1474 on
We have more entertainment options than any generation in history and most of us spend our evenings scrolling past all of them.
aye5goat on
People are losing whimsy in their lives. People are told what to do, what to like, what to dislike. Imagination and wonder are disappearing. I think people need to start finding joy in their everyday lives and not just large events
I_am_MRS_Nesbittt on
Reddit is a huge contributor to being joyless
Jkid on
Because there’s nothing to live for these days and every is numb thanks to the permacrisis.
oldirtygaz on
speak for yourself, boring people are bored – make your own fun
Friggin_Grease on
I’m enjoying gambling
loretta_lane on
I think we’ve gotten really good at killing boredom, but we accidentally killed curiosity too.
Alone-Duty7777 on
Just get off social media.
maduste on
everyone is hot and no one is having sex
TIBlock on
Ask the Aeldari how this phase turned out
itasteawesome on
Speak for yourself, I have a pretty damn good time
Bonerchill on
I’m in the automotive restoration industry and our customers want iCars.
Perfect restorations, overrestored, overly competent. Too much power, no character. Too much grip. CarPlay and powerful aircon. Stuff that gets stored and rarely shown, paraded for clout, delivered to PAs and collection managers because the owners are too busy to see the delivery in person.
Fucking stupid. I want to build character and enjoyment for people who are going to actually fucking drive the damn things on good roads for enjoyment. Building a vintage Ferrari or Porsche into a pseudo-electric car in terms of competence and power delivery makes it no fun at all.
Hand me your address and I’ll rent a car and drive every fun road around you and build a car specifically for them. Powerband, gearing, damper settings… all tailored to make engagement first.
But you won’t. You’ll just buy a Singer or a Ruf or an Automobili Amos because, let’s face it, you’re stoked about the resale.
ischickenafruit on
Everything feels shit because everything is shit. Most things* have been optimized to be just good enough to get paid. Nothing more. There is no joy in the finding that something or somewhere is just so much better than expected. Because it isn’t. I needs to be just good enough. And that sucks.
HardByteUK on
While the world is a bit fucked right now, expensive and demanding, I don’t think it’s joyless. I think people just don’t take responsibilty for finding hobbies.
I read, I 3D model, I do yoga, I do a lot of DIY around my house and sometimes go and help my mum and sister with theirs. They all bring me fulfilment and a sense of joy. My partner and I make time for each other and have date nights over 15 years into our relationship.
I also leave my phone behind when I don’t need it. If I’m going to the pub or bed then it stays on my desk downstairs. I have an alarm clock in my room anyways and I walk to the pub and don’t want to be contacted by anyone who isn’t sat at the table with me.
I know I’m in the minority and am a bit older than the average user (40), but if who don’t help themselves can’t be surprised when help doesn’t manifest from elsewhere.
Fun_Illustrator9298 on
Psychedelics is the reboot
laughsindisbelief on
It’s like gorging yourself on a food that tastes good.
Eventually, it stops being enjoyable and you become repulsed by the idea of continuing…
Society hasn’t reached repulsion.
Thejapxican on
Too much dopamine.
melekin on
At this point, I do not know why do I continue to live in the US. If a data center is built in my community, the government will not have my back. My home will worth nothing, my peace will be destroyed, I will not be able to sue the corporate who build this, healthcare costs, grocery, gas… What are we doing? Why do we live here?
DJbuddahAZ on
Warhammer has a God for this
GGuts on
Yeah because the past was so joyful… S
Kersenn on
As always its corporate greed. New and creative but untested things no longer get the green light. Corporations only want to give us sequels and prequels and side stories and old stuff with a mask on because they only care about money and not at all about delivering good products. Its why in the video game world for example, all the best stuff is coming from new devs and indie devs. All the big game companies are just making the same games over and over.
The infinite growth mindset capitalism has got to go or things will continue to get shittier
BlessdRTheFreaks on
I dunno I live a pretty joyous life. I go on like 4 hikes a week. That’s a lot of no screen time.
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We have to relearn to make our own joy instead of vegitating, waiting for our corporate overlords to make it happen for us.
>The concept of decadence as a marker of cultural decline coinciding with a high level of wealth has been around since the twilight of the ancient Greeks and Romans. After the Roman emperor Elagabalus took the throne at 14, he served flamingo brains, seasoned his food with pearls, and, according to one account, smothered guests to death with an avalanche of rose petals. But his vices were outdone by Nero, who had his enemies sewn into wild animal skins and devoured by dogs in an elaborate garden spectacle.
Interesting. Social media content seems to get more and more extreme as well, same with looks, art, clothing. Everything is taken to the extreme just for the sake off it. Very interesting piece; it’s funny how human history just keeps repeating itself. We truly do not learn. Not enough lifespanmaxxing to actually internalize life’s lessons and pass them down to the new generation. Same old, same old.
Because we’ve been optimized to death
May the odds be ever in our favor
Who the fuck can afford decadence?!
It’s called enshitification, and it’s a feature of capitalism without effective oversight.
“I Knew The Future Would Bring Wonders. I Did Not Know It Would Make Them Ordinary.”
**- Dracula**
Slaanesh feeds well
No experience no matter how opulent matters if you and those around you are emotionally present. That’s my hot take.
It’s partially (probably mostly) because our free time and attention is being exploited and monetized by tech companies at the cost of meaningful connections and responsibilities to the people around us, and to the forming of communities that we’re unable to make and maintain as a consequence. We’re also sold instant dopaminergic reward without actual effort and it’s dulling our senses, it’s important not to overindulge so our baseline for pleasure isn’t so high that pleasurable things don’t feel good anymore. That’s not totally due to big tech, but has increased exponentially since the advent of social media.
Somewhere along the way you’ll eventually learn how to have fun in your own little corner of the world, that’s usually enough for one lifetime
Here’s the secret to happiness. Close Reddit down right now. Go outside. Move your body around, maybe socialize with other real people, maybe work toward a long term goal, like learning a new skill or finishing a project.
Jessie, what the fuck are you talking about?
The answer to the question posed is basically that hedonic adaptation works at a societal level and not just individual.
The average working-class person in a developed country has access to technology and comforts that would make a medieval king green with jealousy (indoor plumbing, HVAC, lighting, limitless cheap entertainment, the entirety of human knowledge available at their fingertips etc. etc.). It’s only been for the last couple hundred years that you weren’t right-fucked if you got a toothache or an infected cut. If there was a nuclear war tomorrow that wiped out civilization, the survivors would give literally anything to return to the „enshittified“ world we live in right now.
But society’s frame of reference is always contemporaneous and highly subjective. So because people have grown up with all of these objectively amazing technologies and comforts, they’re taken *completely* for granted. This leaves people’s mental energy free to be directed at points of relative dissatisfaction.
Ten years ago my mother died, I had a nervous breakdown and triggered 2 autoimmune diseases. I was bedridden for 6 months at a time over 7 years. It was a nightmare. But, with the help of my therapist and wanting to have some kind of purpose for living, we crafted tiny joys. It started with, making tea. The sound of the scoop in the tin, the steam, the pleasure of that first sip. At 65 I started playing my first RPG game and discovered Discord. The game kept my brain alive with strategizing and learning and the community was so incredibly kind and helpful. Young men being kind to an old lady. Then, my Armenian Immigrant neighbors started a weekly movie night for me and I introduced them to some of the greatest films of all time. My friends would come by and we’d just sit and watch tv and order food in. My best friends son loved anime and when he was 12 and I was 64, his mom and he would come over and he introduced me to Anime. Then, when he was 18 he came by himself every week. I fed him and we sat in our big zero gravity chairs and watched Anime and discussed the art of it. He’s 19 now and he just loves to sit with me and watch Anime and ask why is that good why doesn’t that work?
I could no longer be the consumer, the thrill seeker, the world traveler, the runner of tv shows, the most important person in the room, but, my life was full of love and joy and learning and reading and being with people just to be with them.
When everything is robbed from you, there is joy in the mundane. I’m 70 and I’m at peace for the first time in my life.
We have more entertainment options than any generation in history and most of us spend our evenings scrolling past all of them.
People are losing whimsy in their lives. People are told what to do, what to like, what to dislike. Imagination and wonder are disappearing. I think people need to start finding joy in their everyday lives and not just large events
Reddit is a huge contributor to being joyless
Because there’s nothing to live for these days and every is numb thanks to the permacrisis.
speak for yourself, boring people are bored – make your own fun
I’m enjoying gambling
I think we’ve gotten really good at killing boredom, but we accidentally killed curiosity too.
Just get off social media.
everyone is hot and no one is having sex
Ask the Aeldari how this phase turned out
Speak for yourself, I have a pretty damn good time
I’m in the automotive restoration industry and our customers want iCars.
Perfect restorations, overrestored, overly competent. Too much power, no character. Too much grip. CarPlay and powerful aircon. Stuff that gets stored and rarely shown, paraded for clout, delivered to PAs and collection managers because the owners are too busy to see the delivery in person.
Fucking stupid. I want to build character and enjoyment for people who are going to actually fucking drive the damn things on good roads for enjoyment. Building a vintage Ferrari or Porsche into a pseudo-electric car in terms of competence and power delivery makes it no fun at all.
Hand me your address and I’ll rent a car and drive every fun road around you and build a car specifically for them. Powerband, gearing, damper settings… all tailored to make engagement first.
But you won’t. You’ll just buy a Singer or a Ruf or an Automobili Amos because, let’s face it, you’re stoked about the resale.
Everything feels shit because everything is shit. Most things* have been optimized to be just good enough to get paid. Nothing more. There is no joy in the finding that something or somewhere is just so much better than expected. Because it isn’t. I needs to be just good enough. And that sucks.
While the world is a bit fucked right now, expensive and demanding, I don’t think it’s joyless. I think people just don’t take responsibilty for finding hobbies.
I read, I 3D model, I do yoga, I do a lot of DIY around my house and sometimes go and help my mum and sister with theirs. They all bring me fulfilment and a sense of joy. My partner and I make time for each other and have date nights over 15 years into our relationship.
I also leave my phone behind when I don’t need it. If I’m going to the pub or bed then it stays on my desk downstairs. I have an alarm clock in my room anyways and I walk to the pub and don’t want to be contacted by anyone who isn’t sat at the table with me.
I know I’m in the minority and am a bit older than the average user (40), but if who don’t help themselves can’t be surprised when help doesn’t manifest from elsewhere.
Psychedelics is the reboot
It’s like gorging yourself on a food that tastes good.
Eventually, it stops being enjoyable and you become repulsed by the idea of continuing…
Society hasn’t reached repulsion.
Too much dopamine.
At this point, I do not know why do I continue to live in the US. If a data center is built in my community, the government will not have my back. My home will worth nothing, my peace will be destroyed, I will not be able to sue the corporate who build this, healthcare costs, grocery, gas… What are we doing? Why do we live here?
Warhammer has a God for this
Yeah because the past was so joyful… S
As always its corporate greed. New and creative but untested things no longer get the green light. Corporations only want to give us sequels and prequels and side stories and old stuff with a mask on because they only care about money and not at all about delivering good products. Its why in the video game world for example, all the best stuff is coming from new devs and indie devs. All the big game companies are just making the same games over and over.
The infinite growth mindset capitalism has got to go or things will continue to get shittier
I dunno I live a pretty joyous life. I go on like 4 hikes a week. That’s a lot of no screen time.