But what does it do for their wealth, won’t somebody think of the trillionaires?
LittleKitty235 on
Why are datacenter in space a good idea? I don’t care about the downsides…what actual benefit is there to having them.
ParliamenttFnkadelic on
They’re not going to actually do this. Even treating this seriously as a threat is just helping them hype their next vaporware nonsense.
Lanky_Bus_1221 on
People need to get over this because it’s never going to happen
runningray on
There are experts on orbital data centers? Really?
slothboy on
Wow hyperbole from the guardian. Who would have thought?
The issues they discuss in the article are not specific to data centers. They apply to any satellite. But they gotta get the clicks so they frame it to match the current buzzwords.
sojuz151 on
>The spacecraft release black soot, rare metals, aluminum oxides and other pollutants with unknown effects.
>Some scientists fear the pollution could destroy the ozone layer,
So would they be catastrophic, or are the effects unknown?
A reasonable course of action would be asking for some kind of recovery/landing mechanisms rather than a pause for approvals.
mcmalloy on
In the article they mention soot as being a problem, but soot wouldn’t be a thing with Methalox rockets that both Blue Origin and Spacex will be using to launch datacenters with?
Aluminum oxides sure, they aren’t great but it’s not that starship will have an expendable 2nd stage that burns up compared to traditional rockets
horendus on
Why not put them on mars? Run long fibre cables
Between the moon and mars. Use mars dust to fab the chips. Gimi money i a visionary
MechaSkippy on
Anywhere from 40 to 100 tons of space material like dust and meteoroids burn up in the Earth’s atmosphere every single day. The effects of space launch and satellite atmospheric decommission are miniscule by comparison.
DontWorryImADr on
…Musk and Bezos ‘catastrophic’ for planet, experts warn.
Shortened it up a bit, but I think it better highlights the main point.
MiserableTear8705 on
This article is all over the place and nonsensical. Most of the way through the article it mentions light pollution.
These satellites would have 0 impact on light pollution so why is that relevant to bring up when discussing this?
Because it’s fearmongering.
But yes, light pollution IS actually a real problem. Make a petition for that instead.
tweda4 on
I feel like the conversations by Billionaires about Space Datacenters, is the ultimate highlight of the complete unawareness and stupidity that the richest people in the world exhibit.
On an actual, practical level. Datacenters in space, is a dumb idea. You can think about it for less than 5 minutes, and you’ll realise it’s dunb.
You can’t cool them, you can’t maintain them, they’re incredibly expensive in every involved step, and yet, here we are.
So these idiots are either surrounded by *other* idiots and yes men, who either don’t know or refuse to tell them that the whole concept is stupid.
Or they just insulate themselves from any dissenting voices, and instead make these declarations without a care for practical reality.
I worry how corrosive it is for young people especially, when they look at the news and realise that the richest and most powerful people in the world are dumb as posts.
jherrm17 on
Data centers anywhere are terrible for the environment.
Adventurous_Goat3865 on
I never knew so many people were experts in satellite design and thermodynamics!
Belzark on
Wow this sub is total shit. Guardian articles.
Master_Engineering_9 on
People can’t attack data centers in space.
Decronym on
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
At this point anything those two suggest will not be good for anyone let alone the planet.
BigMoney69x on
Experts is such a trite and misleading word used so much this days. It’s always experts say why water is good, experts say why water is bad.
How about just instead of posting a link to a click bait article you at least give a summary of the information in it.
Question one, who is the so called experts?
Question two, what exactly are the so called space data centers?
Question three, why this so called space data center ‚catastrophic‘ for the Planet?
From the headline alone I can imply that this is just slop meant to drive engagement because Musk/Bezos bad, Space Data Center eery and including the word ‚Catastrophic‘ is super duper scary. It’s pure emotional slop.
DingoStar420 on
Funny I’m an expert but I was never asked.
TheNerdyCroc on
That’s just gonna make them want it even more
Needle_Bearings on
AI isn’t going to kill us, the people pushing AI are going to kill us.
mbaucco on
If you built them on the moon would it solve any problems? I know heat dissipation would probably still be an issue.
blondie1024 on
The amount of inconceivable push for something as idiotic as this makes me think that they want to store their data outside of any possible courts of law or jurisdictional reach.
So….it’s probably all for child porn that they don’t want to give up.
robyrob on
I think that you can pretty much guarantee than anything that comes from Elon is going to be bad for the planet and everyone other than him.
Jodelbert on
I mean, sure you get energy up there easily with solar panels but how the hell are you supposed to cool these. The entire idea is dumb. Elon Musk is dumb.
PABLOPANDAJD on
Least misleading Guardian article
spiritanimalslug1 on
earthbound data centres also catastrophic for the planet, choose your poison.
CyberNinja23 on
I was a bit confused at first as to how it was bad. It’s getting them up there and it falling down that’s bad.
Aturkeyclub on
What jurisdiction would this fall under.
Jonatc87 on
why can’t they invest in something actually useful. Like space cleanup?
asatcat on
No one will ever build a datacenter in space. It is impractical and not cost effective.
Data centers generate enormous amounts of heat. Space is “cold” but it is extremely difficult to get rid of heat because it is a vacuum and there are almost no molecules to transfer the heat to.
It’s like trying to build a solar farm in Alaska. The main resource you need just isn’t there so it doesn’t make sense. For data centers they need electricity, an internet network, and the ability to get rid of heat. All of that is much more difficult and less reliable in space.
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But what does it do for their wealth, won’t somebody think of the trillionaires?
Why are datacenter in space a good idea? I don’t care about the downsides…what actual benefit is there to having them.
They’re not going to actually do this. Even treating this seriously as a threat is just helping them hype their next vaporware nonsense.
People need to get over this because it’s never going to happen
There are experts on orbital data centers? Really?
Wow hyperbole from the guardian. Who would have thought?
The issues they discuss in the article are not specific to data centers. They apply to any satellite. But they gotta get the clicks so they frame it to match the current buzzwords.
>The spacecraft release black soot, rare metals, aluminum oxides and other pollutants with unknown effects.
>Some scientists fear the pollution could destroy the ozone layer,
So would they be catastrophic, or are the effects unknown?
A reasonable course of action would be asking for some kind of recovery/landing mechanisms rather than a pause for approvals.
In the article they mention soot as being a problem, but soot wouldn’t be a thing with Methalox rockets that both Blue Origin and Spacex will be using to launch datacenters with?
Aluminum oxides sure, they aren’t great but it’s not that starship will have an expendable 2nd stage that burns up compared to traditional rockets
Why not put them on mars? Run long fibre cables
Between the moon and mars. Use mars dust to fab the chips. Gimi money i a visionary
Anywhere from 40 to 100 tons of space material like dust and meteoroids burn up in the Earth’s atmosphere every single day. The effects of space launch and satellite atmospheric decommission are miniscule by comparison.
…Musk and Bezos ‘catastrophic’ for planet, experts warn.
Shortened it up a bit, but I think it better highlights the main point.
This article is all over the place and nonsensical. Most of the way through the article it mentions light pollution.
These satellites would have 0 impact on light pollution so why is that relevant to bring up when discussing this?
Because it’s fearmongering.
But yes, light pollution IS actually a real problem. Make a petition for that instead.
I feel like the conversations by Billionaires about Space Datacenters, is the ultimate highlight of the complete unawareness and stupidity that the richest people in the world exhibit.
On an actual, practical level. Datacenters in space, is a dumb idea. You can think about it for less than 5 minutes, and you’ll realise it’s dunb.
You can’t cool them, you can’t maintain them, they’re incredibly expensive in every involved step, and yet, here we are.
So these idiots are either surrounded by *other* idiots and yes men, who either don’t know or refuse to tell them that the whole concept is stupid.
Or they just insulate themselves from any dissenting voices, and instead make these declarations without a care for practical reality.
I worry how corrosive it is for young people especially, when they look at the news and realise that the richest and most powerful people in the world are dumb as posts.
Data centers anywhere are terrible for the environment.
I never knew so many people were experts in satellite design and thermodynamics!
Wow this sub is total shit. Guardian articles.
People can’t attack data centers in space.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[BO](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozazqr4 „Last usage“)|Blue Origin (*Bezos Rocketry*)|
|[FAA](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozay9jp „Last usage“)|Federal Aviation Administration|
|[FAR](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozavssb „Last usage“)|[Federal Aviation Regulations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Aviation_Regulations)|
|[FCC](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozb1yfq „Last usage“)|Federal Communications Commission|
| |(Iron/steel) [Face-Centered Cubic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_iron) crystalline structure|
|[LEO](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozb3233 „Last usage“)|Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km)|
| |Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)|
|[LH2](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozax6ly „Last usage“)|Liquid Hydrogen|
|[LOX](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozax6ly „Last usage“)|Liquid Oxygen|
|[OMS](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozb2dx8 „Last usage“)|Orbital Maneuvering System|
|[ROSA](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozaui9l „Last usage“)|Roll-Out Solar Array (designed by Deployable Space Systems)|
|[RP-1](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozb0v5h „Last usage“)|Rocket Propellant 1 (enhanced kerosene)|
|[SSO](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozb38ra „Last usage“)|Sun-Synchronous Orbit|
|[STS](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozax3tw „Last usage“)|Space Transportation System (*Shuttle*)|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[Starlink](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozb2edw „Last usage“)|SpaceX’s world-wide satellite broadband constellation|
|[hydrolox](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozay9jp „Last usage“)|Portmanteau: liquid hydrogen fuel, liquid oxygen oxidizer|
|[kerolox](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozay9jp „Last usage“)|Portmanteau: kerosene fuel, liquid oxygen oxidizer|
|[methalox](/r/Space/comments/1v4fwpf/stub/ozal3lt „Last usage“)|Portmanteau: methane fuel, liquid oxygen oxidizer|
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At this point anything those two suggest will not be good for anyone let alone the planet.
Experts is such a trite and misleading word used so much this days. It’s always experts say why water is good, experts say why water is bad.
How about just instead of posting a link to a click bait article you at least give a summary of the information in it.
Question one, who is the so called experts?
Question two, what exactly are the so called space data centers?
Question three, why this so called space data center ‚catastrophic‘ for the Planet?
From the headline alone I can imply that this is just slop meant to drive engagement because Musk/Bezos bad, Space Data Center eery and including the word ‚Catastrophic‘ is super duper scary. It’s pure emotional slop.
Funny I’m an expert but I was never asked.
That’s just gonna make them want it even more
AI isn’t going to kill us, the people pushing AI are going to kill us.
If you built them on the moon would it solve any problems? I know heat dissipation would probably still be an issue.
The amount of inconceivable push for something as idiotic as this makes me think that they want to store their data outside of any possible courts of law or jurisdictional reach.
So….it’s probably all for child porn that they don’t want to give up.
I think that you can pretty much guarantee than anything that comes from Elon is going to be bad for the planet and everyone other than him.
I mean, sure you get energy up there easily with solar panels but how the hell are you supposed to cool these. The entire idea is dumb. Elon Musk is dumb.
Least misleading Guardian article
earthbound data centres also catastrophic for the planet, choose your poison.
I was a bit confused at first as to how it was bad. It’s getting them up there and it falling down that’s bad.
What jurisdiction would this fall under.
why can’t they invest in something actually useful. Like space cleanup?
No one will ever build a datacenter in space. It is impractical and not cost effective.
Data centers generate enormous amounts of heat. Space is “cold” but it is extremely difficult to get rid of heat because it is a vacuum and there are almost no molecules to transfer the heat to.
It’s like trying to build a solar farm in Alaska. The main resource you need just isn’t there so it doesn’t make sense. For data centers they need electricity, an internet network, and the ability to get rid of heat. All of that is much more difficult and less reliable in space.