Our asylum judges are either the most corrupt in the world or the most gullible.
Playing_One_Handed on
> He later woke up and found “to his amazement” he was in Folkestone where he gave immigration officials false names and dates of birth, ranging from 1996 to 2007.
> Upper Tribunal Judge Gaenor Bruce rejected the suggestion that signs of “recent shaving, a noticeable Adam’s apple, a fine moustache, beard growth and a five o’clock shadow” proved he was then older than 18.
> He explained to the assessors that he had been regularly shaving since [arriving in] Libya, in an effort to make his facial hair thicker, because he likes it.
> Two Home Office staff had “assessed his physical appearance and demeanour to very strongly suggest that he is significantly over 18 years of age”. Two Border Force staff also concluded that “he was in fact 28 years old”. Two social workers thought he was “likely aged between 22 and 25”.
> he went on to insist he was born in April 2007, making him 16 years and 11 months old when he arrived here in March 2024.
What an absolute joke.
ruggersyah on
Judges need to be held to account for these decisions
JustWhy1222 on
Judges making these calls need to be on the hook for child endangerment. The benefit of the doubt cannot ever mean compromising the safety of vulnerable groups.
Tw4tl4r on
Just going on a beard alone obviously isnt enough. A guy i went to school with had a full on thick wizard length beard by 15. 99% of middle aged men could only hope for the beard growth that lad had.
DSQ on
I mean to be fair several of the boys in my year at school by 16 had beards. So while it is suspicious the judge is right it isn’t conclusive.
Saint_Sin on
The Party told you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
RedLion_40k on
Worked at youth club. We get a briefing that we getting a vulnerable new youth joining, their parents were killed in war in Iraq.
They arrive with a social service support worker. Supposedly 16. Full grown adult walks in with a full beard.
We were absolutely stunned. We were all ready to be super supportive to this traumatised child but now we have this massive safeguarding issue. It was a uniformed group and we also did sports so used changing room facilities.
Obviously we refused to let adults use the changing rooms when the youths were changing so now what do we do with this “child”.
We couldn’t reject them because that would be discrimination but they were clearly not a child. It was an absolute nightmare.
meharryp on
one of my friends was bald at 17. just going off facial features alone is a terrible way of determining age
99thLuftballon on
Is there currently a worse newspaper than the Telegraph?
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Our asylum judges are either the most corrupt in the world or the most gullible.
> He later woke up and found “to his amazement” he was in Folkestone where he gave immigration officials false names and dates of birth, ranging from 1996 to 2007.
> Upper Tribunal Judge Gaenor Bruce rejected the suggestion that signs of “recent shaving, a noticeable Adam’s apple, a fine moustache, beard growth and a five o’clock shadow” proved he was then older than 18.
> He explained to the assessors that he had been regularly shaving since [arriving in] Libya, in an effort to make his facial hair thicker, because he likes it.
> Two Home Office staff had “assessed his physical appearance and demeanour to very strongly suggest that he is significantly over 18 years of age”. Two Border Force staff also concluded that “he was in fact 28 years old”. Two social workers thought he was “likely aged between 22 and 25”.
> he went on to insist he was born in April 2007, making him 16 years and 11 months old when he arrived here in March 2024.
What an absolute joke.
Judges need to be held to account for these decisions
Judges making these calls need to be on the hook for child endangerment. The benefit of the doubt cannot ever mean compromising the safety of vulnerable groups.
Just going on a beard alone obviously isnt enough. A guy i went to school with had a full on thick wizard length beard by 15. 99% of middle aged men could only hope for the beard growth that lad had.
I mean to be fair several of the boys in my year at school by 16 had beards. So while it is suspicious the judge is right it isn’t conclusive.
The Party told you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Worked at youth club. We get a briefing that we getting a vulnerable new youth joining, their parents were killed in war in Iraq.
They arrive with a social service support worker. Supposedly 16. Full grown adult walks in with a full beard.
We were absolutely stunned. We were all ready to be super supportive to this traumatised child but now we have this massive safeguarding issue. It was a uniformed group and we also did sports so used changing room facilities.
Obviously we refused to let adults use the changing rooms when the youths were changing so now what do we do with this “child”.
We couldn’t reject them because that would be discrimination but they were clearly not a child. It was an absolute nightmare.
one of my friends was bald at 17. just going off facial features alone is a terrible way of determining age
Is there currently a worse newspaper than the Telegraph?