Ich erinnere mich, dass ich irgendwo gelesen habe, dass Sprecher verschiedener slowenischer Dialekte, selbst solche aus benachbarten Gebieten, einander entweder nicht oder kaum verstehen können, was mich überrascht hat. Ich weiß, dass das Standard-Slowenisch die Unterschiede zwischen den Dialekten etwas verringert und sie ähnlicher gemacht hat, aber wie unterschiedlich sind sie oder waren sie es wirklich?
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Prekmurc govori mađarsko, primorc pa italjansko. No f way, da se zmenita, MONA!
Use translate.
I learned Slovenian watching cartoons on TV Ljubljana as a kid, and practised a little while skiinig on Pohorje, Kranjska Gora, Krvavec, Vogel… What I understand very well is what your can hear on national TV and radio. A standard, I guess. And when I enter a warehouse in Slovenske Konjice and ask a guy driving a forklift random question, I get back Navajo or Ancient Mayan.
Pred par deset leti bi se nekdo iz Vinice fino namučil razumeti nekoga iz Semiča… Šokci so Belokranjski Madžari
Yeah, I have a hard time understanding anyone outside my region, lmao. I just… Pretend to understand everything they said. I was born in Slovenia, sooo…kinda awkward. And some dialects really are like foreign languages.
As you can see in the map, you have generally big dialects in the central part of the country, and smaller ones in the outskirts and mountain areas. Generally people speaking old style variants of Upper Carniolan (Gorenjsko narečje), Lower carniolan (Dolenjsko narečje) and Central Carniolan-Carstic (Notranjsko-Kraško narečje), would have little trouble understanding each other. But once you delve into the outskirts (which means that they are also getting more disconnected and far away from each other), they would have trouble with intelligibility. If we would be in 1850 cca, and you would put three farmers from Slovenian Istria, Bela Krajina and Prekmurje together, they would have serious trouble in comprehension. Today the true dialects hardly exist, or they are spoken just by the elderly. However they have mixed with the literal standard and today many people speak one of the regional speeches that have elements of both. By the speech itself, it is still quite easy to know where a person comes from, but there are generally no problems with mutual comprehension.
Going eastern of blue is ill advised.
Anyone saying it’s a problem is a bit slow. There are differences but nothing major. Maybe a couple of regions that are super far apart. But regions next to each other have no problem. The only ones one might have a little problem with is the ones next to Hungary. And they know Slovenian proper also and they are more than happy to switch.
I, from primorska (but Italian side), once didn’t understand a single word from a guy from štajerska (I think)
My girlfriend told me few days ago, that after more than 6 years together she still learns a new word from me from time to time. We are both from savinjska region.
I live close to the Croatian border and we have a really specific dialect. My boyfriend lives 1h from me near Ljubljana and barely understands a couple of words from the dialect
the yellow ones are tricky 😅
The answers in this thread are ridiculous. Yes, it is a lot of dialects, but a native speaker will understand and be able to communicate with any of them, unless they’re intentionally trying to obfuscate or just be incoherent for the sake of it.
I’ve heard someone say that you truly learn the language when you live in a student dorm in Ljubljana and hear all dialects at once.
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I am from primorska and some of my gf family is from bela krajina. After they finish like the fourth glass of wine and start speaking a bit faster i usually get lost and the i just mimic their reactions.
If they laugh i laugh.. if they ask me something i just respond with some vague undefinitive answer.
Has been working for 6 years.
Thank god gf is not from prekmurje.
I can pinpoint location of speaker on 10 km precise (sometimes even less) when speaking 5 minutes with person. If they speak their full dialect of course. I am from Hrastnik, and Dol has different pronounciation, Trbovlje is a different speach and Zagorje is like different language. When you go to Litija or Laško, it’s like crossing a border.
I’m not far from Ljubljana, but a village nearby has its own specific dialect. 😂 We have many, and yes, sometimes there are some local words that others wouldn’t be familiar with. My mom just learned a new word from Gorenjska region last week, and her mother is from that region, but apparently her village never used that word. 🤷♀️
Well, many of us naturally switch to a more standardized or mutually understandable version of our dialect when speaking to someone from a different region. But for non-native speakers who only know Standard Slovenian (and maybe one dialect), understanding all the dialects would be incredibly difficult.
Just to give an example: I come from a town of about 3,000 people, and the neighboring village already speaks differently enough that, if someone only spoke the dialect from my town, fully understanding them could be challenging.
Another example: when I talk to someone from a town just 10 km away, there are often words they use that simply don’t exist in my local variety, especially for things like farming equipment or other traditional vocabulary.
So this map is a huge oversimplification. In my opinion, a better representation would be something like the same map but made up of tiny pixel-like cells, because there are so many local variants within each dialect.
Also, while it may look as if all the red, blue, or yellow areas on the map speak roughly the same, that’s mainly true from the perspective of people from other dialect groups. As someone from one of the “yellow” dialects, I can often tell which yellow sub-dialect someone speaks after hearing just a sentence or two—sometimes even after the first word. Occasionally I can even pinpoint the exact town they’re from.
I studied languages at university, and one of my professors was able to tell exactly which town I came from just by listening to me speak Standard Slovenian. The subtle pronunciation features I carried over from my dialect were enough to give it away.
If my mom starts talking like she did where she grew up i cant understand half of what she’s saying.
i am from notranjsko / primorska region. i was the last ones in the conscript army in 2002. i had room mates from Prlekija (the farest right yellow on the map). i didn’t understand nothing 🙂
Yes we have different dialects but this thread is one big exaggeration. There are differences but we understand each other just fine. The only dialect that we have some problems with is from prekmurje region.
Find out for yourself:
[https://narecja.si/](https://narecja.si/)
If you are good at dialects you can point out the origin of a pesron speaking by atleast 20km accurate. In my area even vilages and towns just 10km apart have some differences.
Im from stajerska and one time I had this moment of selfrealisation on a picnic around Ormoz. I was tipsy and this local guy was telling some jokes. When he was telling the second joke I finally figure out what the heck he said in the first one so my laughter was on time.
It felt like a language latency, where I had to swich a word, add or split one, change accent or stres etc… This dialect is Prleški.
There are differences, but generally we understand each other, except perhaps the yellow regions. Those need a bit of practice, but nothing unattainable.
It’s true, I lived in a northern village and traveling to other regions left me confused. Basically going to a different corner of the country will guarantee communication problems 😄