“It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias.” — Stephen Colbert
Seaciety on
To quote the worst people upset about this, fuck your feelings
StoppableHulk on
There’s literally zero things any red state would win at besides housing prices and land availability, which are cheap because the market clearly demonstrates where people want to be and where they do not, via prices. People do not want to live in red states, with the exception of blue cities in said red states, and their pricing reflects that reality.
If Republicans brought in even a fraction of the prosperity they pretend to, people would be POURING into their states for the opportunities. People are not coy about this. Your liberalest of libs would be knocking on the door of a red state if they had abundant job opportunities, stable growth, ammenities that make living worthwhile, etc.
But they don’t, and aren’t, and it’s undeniably apparent most people don’t want to live there. *Especially* not rich people, who are happy to kneecap taxes on the wealthy while overeager to suck up all that blue cities have to offer.
The reality is conservatives have bitched and screeched forever about how if they only had their way it would be a paradise, except the reality is they’ve had their way constantly, for decades, and nothing gets better because their ideas are bad. The things they want are shitty. When they get the things they want everyone has a bad time. *Including them*.
Their quality of life, their educational scores, their job opportunities; everything tanks the redder you go. Because, and this can’t be emphasized enough, their ideas are bad. Provably unfeasible. Demonstrably destructive to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
At some point collectively as a species we need to come together and acknowledge these people are toddlers, with no grasp on reality, that not only harm others but themselves in their quest to implement their really stupid ideology.
Do you know why people like Mamdani can tax rich people and no one leaves? Because the rich people know there’s nowhere to go. Because they love socialism. They love everything about it, except the part where they need to pay their FAIR share of it.
They love living in a city with culture, and opportunity. A place where people enjoy going, where people have a good time, where there’s art, and entertainment, and all of the things that make life joyous. And blue is always better for that because red doesn’t fucking work.
**EDIT**:
To the people pointing at the people migrating into red states as though this contradicts the point – it doesn’t.
People moving into red states are middle class workers with flexibility who want property.
If those middle class people were not priced out of buying property in blue cities / states, they would buy property in those states.
The reason they are priced out of those states, but can afford to live in Idaho or Texas, is because property is cheaper in those states *because people with money prefer to buy and keep property there*.
Tobimacoss on
truth hurts….
4square425 on
Maybe if red states would improve in objective metrics, they wouldn’t be ranked like that.
AltoidChewer on
I agree this list is phony. How could Florida not be on it?
lowellpolice on
10 shithole states that won’t do a damn thing to get off that list but cry about the states that subsidize them.
Solonohioperson on
Have lived in red states and a blue state. Blue states are much better for education, healthcare, social services, roads, etc.
NeoPrimitiveOasis on
I found it unsuprising. Also, it was based on data.
seanofkelley on
„How can quality of life be bad if people are moving here?“ People are moving there because the blue states are expensive and red states are cheap (often because they suck), a lot blue states are cold (turns out people don’t like that), and to a lesser extent they are states that have aggressively marketed themselves to retirees. Also OFTEN people move down there and then go „wait whoops didn’t realize it sucked so bad down here“
Oceanbreeze871 on
Oh wow states that don’t believe in spending on education and infrastructure and actively persecute people for existing are terrible places to live. Also oppressive weather. Shocked
Un1CornTowel on
The defensive comments from Republicans are so predictable. „People are fleeing California and New York“ is such a „no one ever goes there, there’s too much traffic“ style comment.
*Some* people are leaving because everything is so expensive, *because everyone wants to live there.*
CoachDT on
This is based on data and not even including culture. Its why i’ll never buy into the „democrats and republicans are the same“
I’ve lived in both deep blue and deep red areas, and honestly the difference is so fucking noticeable its insane. Until you’ve experienced both and had to get into complicated situations in both (risky pregnancy, poverty, debilitating injury, getting hate crimed etc) you don’t really appreciate the differences. Portland aint perfect but it sure as fuck is better than the entire state of Indiana.
StevenMC19 on
>“If you hate not paying income taxes, law and order, parental rights, smaller government, school choice, the Second Amendment, and criminal illegal aliens being arrested…Here’s another garbage list from the mainstream media!“ Gooden wrote.
I personally don’t mind paying my share of taxes. What’d I’d REALLY like is for literally everyone to pay their fair shares. I also understand where that money goes, so there’s that too.
Law and order…defund the police.
Parental Rights…yes, when it’s not overruling the rights of another person. Why should one’s individual rights be denied and placed in the hands of another?
Smaller government…like the ones in red states enacting authoritarian policies onto their constituents? Those small govts?
School choice…yeah, and I’d like there to continue to be choices, like the choice to not have to recite bible verses or ONLY have charter schools that will close in three years as the options for children to go to (see the taxes comment above as it’s related)
2A…and 1A, and 3, and 4 and…all the way to 27 please.
Criminal illegal aliens…yeah, criminals being arrested, then afforded due process. And all others not being forcibly detained without having committed a crime.
Eddfan36 on
These states just can’t handle negative feedback. No wonder they voted for Trump.
jabdnuit on
6/10 of these are former Confederate states. There were only 11 Confederate states.
No way that’s a coincidence.
EDIT: Updated 7/10 to 6/10. I incorrectly counted Missouri, which did NOT secede.
CrunchyCds on
Even Nick Fuentes admitted that he’d rather live in a liberal city, so he can have all the modern luxuries and access to diverse cuisine. You think right wing grifters are living in red districts. Even if they live in red states they’d rather be in the cities which are always blue.
MrFunktasticc on
The truth hurts.
RandyArgonianButler on
Red States exist off of Blue State federal tax income.
Red counties exist off of Blue county state tax income.
Bunch of anti-worker poverty cesspools, and rural geriatric tombs to die in.
RadiantReflexion on
Rather than complain, Republicans should be proud that they accomplished their goal of making life shitty for people. These rankings are based on things like crime rates, air quality, healthcare access, worker protections, and civil rights laws, all areas where Republicans have worked hard to take away protections. Mission accomplished!
Thetman38 on
Rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona
LomentMomentum on
The consensus around red and blue states is correct.
Unfortunately, the response from red states is what it is – “the elite media and blue state liberals hate us and look down on us, so you know what? F them. Go Trump!”
It should be more like “You know what? We have many real problems that make our communities less desirable than advertised and hurt our ability to live our best lives. We’ve fallen behind. Let’s work to make it better”.
Of course, it probably won’t happen.
biddily on
Why are people leaving MA? Because it’s too expensive to live here.
Why is it expensive to live here? Because people want to live here and there isn’t enough housing.
Shocking. Wow. Never could have guessed.
greatthebob38 on
People aren’t moving to Tennessee because it’s a great state. It’s because of the tax benefits. No state income tax, lower property tax due to lower property values with property tax freezes for seniors and no business tax for under $100K revenue.
UniqueIndividual3579 on
They don’t have food, housing, or health care, but at least transgenders can’t go to the bathroom and pregnant women are hunted down. Gotta have your priorities.
Noblesseux on
Simultaneously bragging about living in the middle of nowhere and then getting mad when you realize that it’s the middle of nowhere because people don’t want to live there is very funny.
TheSavageDonut on
I’m not sure why these Red States aren’t embracing these rankings. They pretty much vote for all of the misery and terrible policy decisions that turn their states into toilets 🤷♂️
EpsilonBear on
*The party of turning states into a shitholes surprised when people notice their states are shitholes*.
Fixed the title.
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“It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias.” — Stephen Colbert
To quote the worst people upset about this, fuck your feelings
There’s literally zero things any red state would win at besides housing prices and land availability, which are cheap because the market clearly demonstrates where people want to be and where they do not, via prices. People do not want to live in red states, with the exception of blue cities in said red states, and their pricing reflects that reality.
If Republicans brought in even a fraction of the prosperity they pretend to, people would be POURING into their states for the opportunities. People are not coy about this. Your liberalest of libs would be knocking on the door of a red state if they had abundant job opportunities, stable growth, ammenities that make living worthwhile, etc.
But they don’t, and aren’t, and it’s undeniably apparent most people don’t want to live there. *Especially* not rich people, who are happy to kneecap taxes on the wealthy while overeager to suck up all that blue cities have to offer.
The reality is conservatives have bitched and screeched forever about how if they only had their way it would be a paradise, except the reality is they’ve had their way constantly, for decades, and nothing gets better because their ideas are bad. The things they want are shitty. When they get the things they want everyone has a bad time. *Including them*.
Their quality of life, their educational scores, their job opportunities; everything tanks the redder you go. Because, and this can’t be emphasized enough, their ideas are bad. Provably unfeasible. Demonstrably destructive to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
At some point collectively as a species we need to come together and acknowledge these people are toddlers, with no grasp on reality, that not only harm others but themselves in their quest to implement their really stupid ideology.
Do you know why people like Mamdani can tax rich people and no one leaves? Because the rich people know there’s nowhere to go. Because they love socialism. They love everything about it, except the part where they need to pay their FAIR share of it.
They love living in a city with culture, and opportunity. A place where people enjoy going, where people have a good time, where there’s art, and entertainment, and all of the things that make life joyous. And blue is always better for that because red doesn’t fucking work.
**EDIT**:
To the people pointing at the people migrating into red states as though this contradicts the point – it doesn’t.
People moving into red states are middle class workers with flexibility who want property.
If those middle class people were not priced out of buying property in blue cities / states, they would buy property in those states.
The reason they are priced out of those states, but can afford to live in Idaho or Texas, is because property is cheaper in those states *because people with money prefer to buy and keep property there*.
truth hurts….
Maybe if red states would improve in objective metrics, they wouldn’t be ranked like that.
I agree this list is phony. How could Florida not be on it?
10 shithole states that won’t do a damn thing to get off that list but cry about the states that subsidize them.
Have lived in red states and a blue state. Blue states are much better for education, healthcare, social services, roads, etc.
I found it unsuprising. Also, it was based on data.
„How can quality of life be bad if people are moving here?“ People are moving there because the blue states are expensive and red states are cheap (often because they suck), a lot blue states are cold (turns out people don’t like that), and to a lesser extent they are states that have aggressively marketed themselves to retirees. Also OFTEN people move down there and then go „wait whoops didn’t realize it sucked so bad down here“
Oh wow states that don’t believe in spending on education and infrastructure and actively persecute people for existing are terrible places to live. Also oppressive weather. Shocked
The defensive comments from Republicans are so predictable. „People are fleeing California and New York“ is such a „no one ever goes there, there’s too much traffic“ style comment.
*Some* people are leaving because everything is so expensive, *because everyone wants to live there.*
This is based on data and not even including culture. Its why i’ll never buy into the „democrats and republicans are the same“
I’ve lived in both deep blue and deep red areas, and honestly the difference is so fucking noticeable its insane. Until you’ve experienced both and had to get into complicated situations in both (risky pregnancy, poverty, debilitating injury, getting hate crimed etc) you don’t really appreciate the differences. Portland aint perfect but it sure as fuck is better than the entire state of Indiana.
>“If you hate not paying income taxes, law and order, parental rights, smaller government, school choice, the Second Amendment, and criminal illegal aliens being arrested…Here’s another garbage list from the mainstream media!“ Gooden wrote.
I personally don’t mind paying my share of taxes. What’d I’d REALLY like is for literally everyone to pay their fair shares. I also understand where that money goes, so there’s that too.
Law and order…defund the police.
Parental Rights…yes, when it’s not overruling the rights of another person. Why should one’s individual rights be denied and placed in the hands of another?
Smaller government…like the ones in red states enacting authoritarian policies onto their constituents? Those small govts?
School choice…yeah, and I’d like there to continue to be choices, like the choice to not have to recite bible verses or ONLY have charter schools that will close in three years as the options for children to go to (see the taxes comment above as it’s related)
2A…and 1A, and 3, and 4 and…all the way to 27 please.
Criminal illegal aliens…yeah, criminals being arrested, then afforded due process. And all others not being forcibly detained without having committed a crime.
These states just can’t handle negative feedback. No wonder they voted for Trump.
6/10 of these are former Confederate states. There were only 11 Confederate states.
No way that’s a coincidence.
EDIT: Updated 7/10 to 6/10. I incorrectly counted Missouri, which did NOT secede.
Even Nick Fuentes admitted that he’d rather live in a liberal city, so he can have all the modern luxuries and access to diverse cuisine. You think right wing grifters are living in red districts. Even if they live in red states they’d rather be in the cities which are always blue.
The truth hurts.
Red States exist off of Blue State federal tax income.
Red counties exist off of Blue county state tax income.
Bunch of anti-worker poverty cesspools, and rural geriatric tombs to die in.
Rather than complain, Republicans should be proud that they accomplished their goal of making life shitty for people. These rankings are based on things like crime rates, air quality, healthcare access, worker protections, and civil rights laws, all areas where Republicans have worked hard to take away protections. Mission accomplished!
Rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona
The consensus around red and blue states is correct.
Unfortunately, the response from red states is what it is – “the elite media and blue state liberals hate us and look down on us, so you know what? F them. Go Trump!”
It should be more like “You know what? We have many real problems that make our communities less desirable than advertised and hurt our ability to live our best lives. We’ve fallen behind. Let’s work to make it better”.
Of course, it probably won’t happen.
Why are people leaving MA? Because it’s too expensive to live here.
Why is it expensive to live here? Because people want to live here and there isn’t enough housing.
Shocking. Wow. Never could have guessed.
People aren’t moving to Tennessee because it’s a great state. It’s because of the tax benefits. No state income tax, lower property tax due to lower property values with property tax freezes for seniors and no business tax for under $100K revenue.
They don’t have food, housing, or health care, but at least transgenders can’t go to the bathroom and pregnant women are hunted down. Gotta have your priorities.
Simultaneously bragging about living in the middle of nowhere and then getting mad when you realize that it’s the middle of nowhere because people don’t want to live there is very funny.
I’m not sure why these Red States aren’t embracing these rankings. They pretty much vote for all of the misery and terrible policy decisions that turn their states into toilets 🤷♂️
*The party of turning states into a shitholes surprised when people notice their states are shitholes*.
Fixed the title.