Cool! I can’t wait to see our nighttime sky full of corporate logos. It’s like a cyberpunk fantasy come true.
Farmbot26 on
Patrick, I don’t think the greenhouse effect can get any worse!
Nonsense!
kookomagoo on
Wow. What a profoundly stupid idea. Talk a out light pollution. This cannot be good for animals, plants or people.we need a night cycle.
tubbis9001 on
Maybe something like this has some limited scientific value, but you would need huge *kilometer sized* mirrors to see any increases in brightness with the naked eye, let alone be bright enough for solar panels.
shugo7 on
There’s an episode of Futurama and other movies that specifically shows us why this is a bad idea
Soap_Mctavish101 on
Those people are so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn’t stop to think if they should.
ArtOfWarfare on
I’m curious what the Venn diagram looks like for people who like vs hate this idea and like vs hate beaming solar power from space to earth. Since they’re very nearly the same idea.
The key difference I see, and maybe I’m just mistaken, is that with beaming solar power from space to earth you switch the wavelengths being emitted from several wavelengths that get absorbed by earths atmosphere normally and convert them all to infrared, which does a better job penetrating the atmosphere and solar panels are more efficient at converting to power (on the terrestrial side.)
IDK, will the space mirrors be adjusting the wavelengths of what they beam down to earth vs what they receive from the sun? If so, I’d say it’s the exact same idea.
Necessary_Bike3227 on
Wouldn’t this heat up the planet, during its natural cooling phase?
devo_inc on
A big mirror makes a big beam.
Teen_Wolf_of_Wall_St on
So Trump is good with solar power and renewables as long as its awful and destroys a bunch of other things like nocturnal ecosystems?
CloudWallace81 on
Strong USSR vibes here. Look for Znamya
CorineSye on
I had the same uneasy feeling reading this, honestly. I grew up where dark skies mattered, and even a little extra glare at night would bug me way more than people think.
Sun-Anvil on
„WIRED wrote about Reflect Orbital’s giant mirror in September 2024, when the project was still in its early stages: “The ambitious goal of the Santa Monica, California–based startup is to ensure a continuous supply of light for large solar panel installations, allowing them to generate electricity even at night and thereby overcoming one of the main limitations of this renewable energy source.” Two years later, the Trump administration has given the green light to this provider of “on-demand” sunlight.“
I hope I’m fucking dead before I see that thing irl. I don’t want to be a part of the human species anymore.
superiorplaps on
One step away from a giant magnifying glass
beardingmesoftly on
What the fuck no thank you
ChaosOnion on
> “Reflect Orbital is earning the right to operate and expand. That means demonstrating that reflected sunlight can be precisely controlled, used only where appropriate, limited in brightness and duration, and coordinated with affected communities and scientific institutions. It means measuring real-world impacts rather than relying on assumptions. And it means being willing to change course if the evidence does not support deployment.”
* Who’s determining when and where appropriate?
* Who’s controlling brightness and duration? (If people can’t be bothered to regulate LED headlights, what makes you think they’ll regulate this?)
* Who’s arbitrating between parties?
* Who’s measuring impacts and determining if assumptions are true or false?
* Who’s determining if the evidence supports the blah-blah-blah?
This sounds like a bad solution in search of an imaginary problem.
Notten on
It’s as if they forgot the earth’s atmosphere with certainly scatter the light and it will be a bright spot in the night for everyone and do next to nothing foe solar because the underlying efficiency is bad. Also we dont need nearly as much power at night. This is just more space garbage.
RhesusFactor on
The FCC is responsible for regulating radio communications in the USA. They have applied for a radio license. This is not approval to launch, or endorsement of the concept.
The US FAA reviews launch vehicles and does cursory payload reviews, unless the payload is very unusual. The FAA also coordinates interagency reviews where other stakeholders like OSC and DoD can provide comment. This appears to be an unusual payload, but the owners have not applied yet.
The Office of Space Commerce, empowered by Space Policy Directive 2 and 5 are starting to shift the US’s laissez faire space economy to a slightly more regulated on where Mission Authorisation is handled by the DoC-OSC. This is expected to bring all these different regulatory bodies and processes into one front door, and have a bit more on-orbit behaviour regulation.
This is not the end of night time people.
blucyclone on
Electronic artificial light overclocked the industrial revolution and created ridiculously long working days that society is still trying to undo. This is just the next stage of human exploitation.
manofredearth on
Oh great, weaponized daylight
Decronym on
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[DoD](/r/Space/comments/1uw6isv/stub/oxgw6pp „Last usage“)|US Department of Defense|
|[FAA](/r/Space/comments/1uw6isv/stub/oxgw6pp „Last usage“)|Federal Aviation Administration|
|[FCC](/r/Space/comments/1uw6isv/stub/oxhgxeb „Last usage“)|Federal Communications Commission|
| |(Iron/steel) [Face-Centered Cubic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_iron) crystalline structure|
|[LEO](/r/Space/comments/1uw6isv/stub/oxgta3l „Last usage“)|Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km)|
| |Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)|
For fucking what??? is the first thing that comes to mind…
Jimmy_Beam27 on
Well this will kill their argument against solar because it „doesn’t work at night“
rodrigoelp on
And because the planet is not having issues releasing heat to outer space, why not bring a lot more solar energy down to the planet.
It will definitely not backfire, right?
Fritzo2162 on
This is one of those things that I’m generally against because it will alter the environment, but I’m genuinely curious about what it could do. I could see this being used for solar farms to generate 24/7 power, or even focused to generate heat energy. If the beam is highly focused, I’m not sure how it would affect observations (unless it was in an area with an observatory).
Pamander on
Can someone devils advocate for this thing cause I just don’t get it at all and I am usually all for space silliness.
ShoutOutTo_Caboose on
Hmm if only there were a **natural** satellite that did that already.
Realtrain on
I just don’t get how this is cheaper or more reliable than building twice as many solar panels and battery capacity for them.
snackshack on
Futurama did something similar.
It didn’t end well from what i recall.
OldFaithlessness5008 on
Can we not just put solar panels in space instead?
King_Barrion on
There are maybe 3 valid usecases for this
cosmotrak on
what if we shined it on north sentinel island
crewsctrl on
The FCC doesn’t authorize launches. The FCC authorizes communications that will be used on spacecraft. All that has been approved is the communications system. The spacecraft hasn’t been built yet. The rocket hasn’t been procured yet. The launch hasn’t been planned yet.
Mister_Brevity on
They’re definitely going to try to make it a weapon. “California won’t give up their voter data – burn LA!”
Wunderbars1 on
what movie is this again? cant remember… or was it a futurama episode
NotaFTCAgent on
Surely this will be used to justify new solar power installations in the US right? Since their whole „buh muh power at night time durrr“ argument goes out the windows; and not just used as a vanity money sink for billionaire mansion parties and yachts right?
Economy_Link4609 on
Was Dr. Wernstrom in any way involved in designing this satellite?
condensermike on
Awesome. Can’t wait to further ruin our night skies.
Waarm on
This is Mr Burns level of evil
poopfilledsandwich on
I don’t like my neighbors lights shining in my yard.
Trump will be up there shining that mirror like a magnifying glass on all the Blue States and anyone else he thinks has betrayed him.
abslte23 on
I swear I remember Russia doing this on the 90s from what I can recall from an article in Time magazine.
Edit: yes indeed project Znamya
CessnaDude82 on
This seems like a really inefficient way to solve solar power generation issues. Seems it might be a better use of resources to perfect it down here before we just default to giant space mirror.
beefcake1993 on
Man, we Americans are getting sun at night before universal healthcare
DazHawt on
This is why I’ve been adamant about taking my kids dark sky camping for the past year. I want them to remember when you could see stars in the sky.
argognat on
The lizard people need to warm up the planet as quickly as possible before they take over.
Seriously though, remember when we were trying stop global warming instead of finding ever stupider ways of heating the planet.
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Cool! I can’t wait to see our nighttime sky full of corporate logos. It’s like a cyberpunk fantasy come true.
Patrick, I don’t think the greenhouse effect can get any worse!
Nonsense!
Wow. What a profoundly stupid idea. Talk a out light pollution. This cannot be good for animals, plants or people.we need a night cycle.
Maybe something like this has some limited scientific value, but you would need huge *kilometer sized* mirrors to see any increases in brightness with the naked eye, let alone be bright enough for solar panels.
There’s an episode of Futurama and other movies that specifically shows us why this is a bad idea
Those people are so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn’t stop to think if they should.
I’m curious what the Venn diagram looks like for people who like vs hate this idea and like vs hate beaming solar power from space to earth. Since they’re very nearly the same idea.
The key difference I see, and maybe I’m just mistaken, is that with beaming solar power from space to earth you switch the wavelengths being emitted from several wavelengths that get absorbed by earths atmosphere normally and convert them all to infrared, which does a better job penetrating the atmosphere and solar panels are more efficient at converting to power (on the terrestrial side.)
IDK, will the space mirrors be adjusting the wavelengths of what they beam down to earth vs what they receive from the sun? If so, I’d say it’s the exact same idea.
Wouldn’t this heat up the planet, during its natural cooling phase?
A big mirror makes a big beam.
So Trump is good with solar power and renewables as long as its awful and destroys a bunch of other things like nocturnal ecosystems?
Strong USSR vibes here. Look for Znamya
I had the same uneasy feeling reading this, honestly. I grew up where dark skies mattered, and even a little extra glare at night would bug me way more than people think.
„WIRED wrote about Reflect Orbital’s giant mirror in September 2024, when the project was still in its early stages: “The ambitious goal of the Santa Monica, California–based startup is to ensure a continuous supply of light for large solar panel installations, allowing them to generate electricity even at night and thereby overcoming one of the main limitations of this renewable energy source.” Two years later, the Trump administration has given the green light to this provider of “on-demand” sunlight.“
[Here is Reflect Orbital website and team. Some formally SpaceX Engineers](https://www.reflectorbital.com/team)
I hope I’m fucking dead before I see that thing irl. I don’t want to be a part of the human species anymore.
One step away from a giant magnifying glass
What the fuck no thank you
> “Reflect Orbital is earning the right to operate and expand. That means demonstrating that reflected sunlight can be precisely controlled, used only where appropriate, limited in brightness and duration, and coordinated with affected communities and scientific institutions. It means measuring real-world impacts rather than relying on assumptions. And it means being willing to change course if the evidence does not support deployment.”
* Who’s determining when and where appropriate?
* Who’s controlling brightness and duration? (If people can’t be bothered to regulate LED headlights, what makes you think they’ll regulate this?)
* Who’s arbitrating between parties?
* Who’s measuring impacts and determining if assumptions are true or false?
* Who’s determining if the evidence supports the blah-blah-blah?
This sounds like a bad solution in search of an imaginary problem.
It’s as if they forgot the earth’s atmosphere with certainly scatter the light and it will be a bright spot in the night for everyone and do next to nothing foe solar because the underlying efficiency is bad. Also we dont need nearly as much power at night. This is just more space garbage.
The FCC is responsible for regulating radio communications in the USA. They have applied for a radio license. This is not approval to launch, or endorsement of the concept.
The US FAA reviews launch vehicles and does cursory payload reviews, unless the payload is very unusual. The FAA also coordinates interagency reviews where other stakeholders like OSC and DoD can provide comment. This appears to be an unusual payload, but the owners have not applied yet.
The Office of Space Commerce, empowered by Space Policy Directive 2 and 5 are starting to shift the US’s laissez faire space economy to a slightly more regulated on where Mission Authorisation is handled by the DoC-OSC. This is expected to bring all these different regulatory bodies and processes into one front door, and have a bit more on-orbit behaviour regulation.
This is not the end of night time people.
Electronic artificial light overclocked the industrial revolution and created ridiculously long working days that society is still trying to undo. This is just the next stage of human exploitation.
Oh great, weaponized daylight
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[DoD](/r/Space/comments/1uw6isv/stub/oxgw6pp „Last usage“)|US Department of Defense|
|[FAA](/r/Space/comments/1uw6isv/stub/oxgw6pp „Last usage“)|Federal Aviation Administration|
|[FCC](/r/Space/comments/1uw6isv/stub/oxhgxeb „Last usage“)|Federal Communications Commission|
| |(Iron/steel) [Face-Centered Cubic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_iron) crystalline structure|
|[LEO](/r/Space/comments/1uw6isv/stub/oxgta3l „Last usage“)|Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km)|
| |Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[Starlink](/r/Space/comments/1uw6isv/stub/oxhf5h9 „Last usage“)|SpaceX’s world-wide satellite broadband constellation|
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For fucking what??? is the first thing that comes to mind…
Well this will kill their argument against solar because it „doesn’t work at night“
And because the planet is not having issues releasing heat to outer space, why not bring a lot more solar energy down to the planet.
It will definitely not backfire, right?
This is one of those things that I’m generally against because it will alter the environment, but I’m genuinely curious about what it could do. I could see this being used for solar farms to generate 24/7 power, or even focused to generate heat energy. If the beam is highly focused, I’m not sure how it would affect observations (unless it was in an area with an observatory).
Can someone devils advocate for this thing cause I just don’t get it at all and I am usually all for space silliness.
Hmm if only there were a **natural** satellite that did that already.
I just don’t get how this is cheaper or more reliable than building twice as many solar panels and battery capacity for them.
Futurama did something similar.
It didn’t end well from what i recall.
Can we not just put solar panels in space instead?
There are maybe 3 valid usecases for this
what if we shined it on north sentinel island
The FCC doesn’t authorize launches. The FCC authorizes communications that will be used on spacecraft. All that has been approved is the communications system. The spacecraft hasn’t been built yet. The rocket hasn’t been procured yet. The launch hasn’t been planned yet.
They’re definitely going to try to make it a weapon. “California won’t give up their voter data – burn LA!”
what movie is this again? cant remember… or was it a futurama episode
Surely this will be used to justify new solar power installations in the US right? Since their whole „buh muh power at night time durrr“ argument goes out the windows; and not just used as a vanity money sink for billionaire mansion parties and yachts right?
Was Dr. Wernstrom in any way involved in designing this satellite?
Awesome. Can’t wait to further ruin our night skies.
This is Mr Burns level of evil
I don’t like my neighbors lights shining in my yard.
Trump will be up there shining that mirror like a magnifying glass on all the Blue States and anyone else he thinks has betrayed him.
I swear I remember Russia doing this on the 90s from what I can recall from an article in Time magazine.
Edit: yes indeed project Znamya
This seems like a really inefficient way to solve solar power generation issues. Seems it might be a better use of resources to perfect it down here before we just default to giant space mirror.
Man, we Americans are getting sun at night before universal healthcare
This is why I’ve been adamant about taking my kids dark sky camping for the past year. I want them to remember when you could see stars in the sky.
The lizard people need to warm up the planet as quickly as possible before they take over.
Seriously though, remember when we were trying stop global warming instead of finding ever stupider ways of heating the planet.