So this spacecraft is just one piece of the overall architecture. The architecture also included two uncrewed nuclear electric propulsion spacecraft, one carrying return propellant for the crewed spacecraft and the other landers to support a surface expedition on Callisto. [More here](https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/realdesigns3.php#hopebntr)
quickblur on
>Outbound transit time: 851.2 days / 2.33 years
Plus 120+ days on Callisto and then another 2.3 years back…hope they have a motivated crew!
No-Computer7653 on
NTP is a fun tech. It would have been absolutely groundbreaking 25 or 50 years ago but there wasn’t enough funding to ever do it.
This specific mission used NTP because it’s the only way to reach the required delta v that avoids a lethal Jupiter orbit. Radiation near Callisto is still higher than the rest of the journey but it’s survivable. On most of the moons you only have the benefit of dying from the thermal effects before you’d go the route of Hisashi Ouchi.
Now that it’s getting attention again I question if there is still value in doing it given we could do DFD instead.
D-D and D-T are not great to use for DFD because of the neutrons and the plasma temperature is too low. The He3 cycle requires dual fusion as you have to make the He3, not a huge deal but complicated (this is where current DFD research is). Ideal is the pB11 cycle with proton ignition instead of laser. It’s still out of reach because of the temperature required but making progress. All are still orders of magnitude better than NTP (much less shielding, cooling is much less of a problem, abundant fuel for in situ, etc).
Only need stable plasma for it to work, not self-sustaining fusion. We are already fairly close to that and will certainly achieve it by the time an NTP development program would be completed. First gen DFD (He3 cycle) is also twice the speed of NTP, simply a more efficient energy conversion.
Woodlore1991 on
Is the vehicle length in m of ft?
Desperate-Win8486 on
Won’t happen in any of our lifetimes. I’d put this happening maybe in the early 22nd century.
lucidbadger on
Why Jupiter moon? Not any closer target like Venus, Mars or some asteroid?
non-number-name on
This design makes me scared, Dave.
SgtGhost57 on
Sigh. We really peaked in the 2000’s huh. It’s all downhill from there… 🥀
cryptek66 on
That fucking blows that we never did this. Imagine the human achievement
ZeroBeTaken on
And that’s with tech from 20 years ago too. Imagine what we could explore today if we actually funded NASA
Karoli5 on
nuclear thermal sounds like a neat way to cut travel time
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So this spacecraft is just one piece of the overall architecture. The architecture also included two uncrewed nuclear electric propulsion spacecraft, one carrying return propellant for the crewed spacecraft and the other landers to support a surface expedition on Callisto. [More here](https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/realdesigns3.php#hopebntr)
>Outbound transit time: 851.2 days / 2.33 years
Plus 120+ days on Callisto and then another 2.3 years back…hope they have a motivated crew!
NTP is a fun tech. It would have been absolutely groundbreaking 25 or 50 years ago but there wasn’t enough funding to ever do it.
This specific mission used NTP because it’s the only way to reach the required delta v that avoids a lethal Jupiter orbit. Radiation near Callisto is still higher than the rest of the journey but it’s survivable. On most of the moons you only have the benefit of dying from the thermal effects before you’d go the route of Hisashi Ouchi.
Now that it’s getting attention again I question if there is still value in doing it given we could do DFD instead.
D-D and D-T are not great to use for DFD because of the neutrons and the plasma temperature is too low. The He3 cycle requires dual fusion as you have to make the He3, not a huge deal but complicated (this is where current DFD research is). Ideal is the pB11 cycle with proton ignition instead of laser. It’s still out of reach because of the temperature required but making progress. All are still orders of magnitude better than NTP (much less shielding, cooling is much less of a problem, abundant fuel for in situ, etc).
Only need stable plasma for it to work, not self-sustaining fusion. We are already fairly close to that and will certainly achieve it by the time an NTP development program would be completed. First gen DFD (He3 cycle) is also twice the speed of NTP, simply a more efficient energy conversion.
Is the vehicle length in m of ft?
Won’t happen in any of our lifetimes. I’d put this happening maybe in the early 22nd century.
Why Jupiter moon? Not any closer target like Venus, Mars or some asteroid?
This design makes me scared, Dave.
Sigh. We really peaked in the 2000’s huh. It’s all downhill from there… 🥀
That fucking blows that we never did this. Imagine the human achievement
And that’s with tech from 20 years ago too. Imagine what we could explore today if we actually funded NASA
nuclear thermal sounds like a neat way to cut travel time