Ist das normal? Zum Vergleich: Papier wurde in den Restmüll geworfen, da es im Regen lag, und daher war es meiner Meinung nach verunreinigt und nicht für das Recycling geeignet. Der Hausmeister nahm es aus dem Mülleimer und stellte es vor meine Wohnungstür, sie schrieben mir weder eine SMS noch riefen sie mich an. Ich erfuhr es, als ich die Tür öffnete und meine schmutzige Kiste, die im Mülleimer gewesen war, auf mich fiel – ich bin neu in Deutschland und brauche daher Rat von jemandem, der Erfahrung hat 😅 Ich verstehe, ob ich nasses Papier vielleicht dem Recycling zuführen sollte (das wusste ich vorher nicht), aber der Ton hat mich überrascht.
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Looks very strange to me, but maybe Munich has a city ordnance that does not allow for cardboard in general waste?
Why would rain make the cardboard unable to recycle?
Only because paper got wet by rain it is not Restmüll but still recyclable paper? How did you come to the conclusion it wouldn’t be? What?
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wet cardboard can be recycled without issue as long as it is only wet from water (like rain)
part of recycling paper involves adding water to it even.
also in the future cut the carton into flat pieces so more does fit in the paper bin
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That somebody is going to inspect your garbage is such a landlord hallucination. I am German and have never heard of rhis, ever. But everyone seems to repeat it like some urban myth.
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What the Hausmeister did was not okay. He is not allowed to put garbage in front of your door. The Hausflur is shared space. There are rules what you can put there (laws and Hausordnung), definitely not garbage. Besides that, the idea is insane and disgusting to put something from the Restmüll and put at someone’s door…
If you sorted something wrong it he might be ordered from Hausverwaltung or Eigentümer to resort the garbage, maybe there were problems in the past that the city refused to take the garbage. But to put it in front of your door? That might actually qualify as „illegale Müllentsorgung“…
I would send a photo to the Hausverwaltung and kindly ask if they instructed the Hausmeister to put garbage in the Hausflur in front of your door. (no matter if it was sorted right or wrong)
Also, you are right about wet paper/cardboard in Restmüll! It can lead to **mold and contamination**. Some cities explicitly say to put wet paper into Restmüll. But only some, maybe it depends on the local recycling system. In some cities the Papiertonne gets emptied only once every 4 weeks, lots of time to develop mold. You can contact Stadt München and ask where to put wet cardboard. Maybe with a short email so you can forward the reply later to Hausverwaltung.
Edit: I can’t believe the city would not take Restmüll when there was cardboard or paper in it. That’s usually the case for other bins (yellow, blue, brown). But Restmüll is way more expensive and covers everything that you can legally put in Hausmüll. If you are lazy and don’t want to sort your garbage you can just have Restmüll and put everything inside.
You can always put paper into the residuals bin, that’s not a problem. I used to live outside of Munich and that municipality specifically said to not put wet paper into the paper bin, because it might not dry in time or stick together with different kinds of paper. Munich doesn’t say anything about that
~~The Hausmeister is~~ *You are* right, wet paper and cardboard is a problem for the recycling process and should be thrown into the residual waste bin:
[https://www.aha-region.de/aktion/altpapier/nasses-papier-ein-problem-fuers-reycling-1](https://www.aha-region.de/aktion/altpapier/nasses-papier-ein-problem-fuers-reycling-1)
Edit: Missunderstood the Hausmeisters texts with yours
This feels like one of the old stuwo i used to stay at in Munich
The most German issue ever
As a stereotypical German alman living in an apartment building in Berlin, I can relate to the Hausmeister. You have to understand the feelings we go through when we see this… let’s call it „mixed bag“ every time we go near the Müllplatz. I learned to separate paper from trash when I was maybe 3 years old, and recycling materials (even split between PVC and aluminium) from waste when I was 5 years old.
Every time I get near the Müllplatz, I cry. Trash, cardboard boxes and old furniture on the ground. Baby diaper in the recycling. Cardboard in the trash. Trash in the Biomüll. I cry.
If I was Hausmeister and responsible for avoiding fines, I would be standing at the Müllplatz punching people in the face all day. Just imagine this is the 14th talk about Ordnungswidrigkeiten at the Müllplatz your janitor is having this month. No wonder the tone is… less than friendly.
> but the tone took me by surprise..
You sweet summer child. You have a lot to learn while living in Germany – both of you were rude and passive-aggressive and that’s how many conversations will happen in your life in Germany. And being polite on your side will not help in most cases. If you are not ready for this, please, consider another country asap.
/Bittelaminiert
What I find really amazing is that people here are commenting on how rude OP was in their messages (which they were!), but no one finds it rude to silently (and very passive-aggressively) put the (this time really – it was in the general waste bin) contaminated paper at the OPs door such that it falls down when the door is opened.
I just want to say, that being a passive-aggressive A-loch is bad, but people are missing who started being the one and even suggesting apologizing (!). (Also 3-2-1 until the first comment „what was Hausmeister supposed to do otherwise?!“)
?? You said putting it in the paper bin would be against regulations.
And he then confirms that and asks if you don’t know about the tests the city does randomly.
So he is agreeing with you, that the wet and dirty paper doesn’t belong in the blue paper bin!??
? Wenn man etwas entsorgen will was vielleicht nicht ganz ok ist zerreißt man es und steckt es in einen dicken Müllsack. Den macht keiner auf, wo ist das Problem?
I love how each very normal interaction ends up in extreme situation in Germany!
Instead of trying to explain and / or understand, It always ends up with either „you could complain about me“ or „I will call the police“ LOL