I wonder how Polish people would react if in the next 30 years our wages would grow like spain or Italy.
throwaway_uow on
Great. Now do absolute value instead of %
KSzkodaGames on
Better than Brexit UK lol 😜
RattledHead on
At least we have sangría and sol.
Now imagine if the average salary is around 1400 (5400 zł netto) and a room in a city of 130k (half than Łódź?) is around 450/500 (2200 zł).
In Madrid most common salary is around 1500 (6400 zł) but a room, just a ROOM, costs around 800 (3500 zł).
1 pokój kawalerki in Madrid is around 1300 (5500 zł), in a 130k city around 800 (3400 zł).
Math ain’t mathing here nowadays.
Add food, car/transport and you pretty much are doomed here, unless you live with your parents.
We are living tough times south and north (Europe-wise) 🙁
International-Bus689 on
One of the many reasons why, as a makaroniarz, I prefer living in Poland over Italy
robh1540 on
Side note, whenever I hear something from Spain about a political idea or policy its always something particularly stupid, badly thought through and slightly socialist. Its really not surprising they haven’t got any richer and once you get in the cycle it becomes really hard to get out of. I really hope Poland can stay on this good path. If we can, I think the country can keep getting richer because much of Western Europe seems hellbent on destroying itself through soft socialism. Meanwhile Poland seems to be quite good at adapting when it faces an issue, working out how to solve it and move forward. It feels like the national story is an endless series of Ranczo.
Rarog1000101 on
IMHO, looking at average salary means absolutely nothing. ~70% of Poles don’t earn average salary and median is 18% bellow average. ~20% of workers earns minimal wage. So i wouldn’t call it ‚pulling ahead‘, more like, creating even more wealth inequality.
The baseline was also very low to begin with. Also, show us median. Average means f all.
TheKrzysiek on
PPP is adjusted to purchasing power, right?
qerel123 on
i cannot trust an AI infographic. Some lines look wonky af even if most of them seem plausible. And why are some countries grouped together? Makes no sense
fan_tas_tic on
Poland did a spectacular job, but what I don’t understand is why a large portion of the population wants a radical change in the government? Konfa is incredibly incompetent, and their lies would only come to the surface if they got decision-making positions.
chinkalichaczapuri on
Supporters of Euro adoption want the same for Poland!
ILikeAnanas on
now adjust by local buying power or real estate prices
Santi-Emite on
No doctors, no problems.
niceufo777 on
Hey, hey, hey, what’s my beloved Mexico doing in that graphic… it’s an unfair comparison!
Syaman_ on
The graph clearly shows the GROWTH rate and people in comments are bitching that we don’t make as much as Germans. I mean, duh??? Nobody denies that?
Kubus002 on
Now put cost of real estates on the scale
queenmagic787 on
Lmfao. Now do purchasing power and you will know where you on the list should be with your zlotes 🤣🤣🤣🤣
OkDistribution9847 on
Wages were growing because we were a source of cheap labor for foreign corporations. Now, they are moving their operations to India, and it is going to hurt because we wasted years of prosperity and failed to learn or develop anything. AI is not helping either.
Muff_Diver666 on
And ??? The chart still doesn’t makes any sense… Just pure brainwashing to make people think that average Polish family has a good lifestyle – which is NOT
The raise of the wages doesn’t reflect the increased inflation and enormous increase in everyday living costs. Starting from the groceries, gas, electricity and petrol prices… The actual purchase value has greatly decreased – so you can keep on showing the amazing charts – yet the life in Poland is still one of the most expensive in EU …
The lowest wage which is set by gov is a hole. If the calculation doesn’t monitor this, Pl jest bardzo dobrze. If not, we need to wait for the ja pierdole armageddonist inflation my fellow guys.
cac3a on
Bank it and let it compound.
Jhud6669 on
I make 36k (PLN) annualy lol
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I wonder how Polish people would react if in the next 30 years our wages would grow like spain or Italy.
Great. Now do absolute value instead of %
Better than Brexit UK lol 😜
At least we have sangría and sol.
Now imagine if the average salary is around 1400 (5400 zł netto) and a room in a city of 130k (half than Łódź?) is around 450/500 (2200 zł).
In Madrid most common salary is around 1500 (6400 zł) but a room, just a ROOM, costs around 800 (3500 zł).
1 pokój kawalerki in Madrid is around 1300 (5500 zł), in a 130k city around 800 (3400 zł).
Math ain’t mathing here nowadays.
Add food, car/transport and you pretty much are doomed here, unless you live with your parents.
We are living tough times south and north (Europe-wise) 🙁
One of the many reasons why, as a makaroniarz, I prefer living in Poland over Italy
Side note, whenever I hear something from Spain about a political idea or policy its always something particularly stupid, badly thought through and slightly socialist. Its really not surprising they haven’t got any richer and once you get in the cycle it becomes really hard to get out of. I really hope Poland can stay on this good path. If we can, I think the country can keep getting richer because much of Western Europe seems hellbent on destroying itself through soft socialism. Meanwhile Poland seems to be quite good at adapting when it faces an issue, working out how to solve it and move forward. It feels like the national story is an endless series of Ranczo.
IMHO, looking at average salary means absolutely nothing. ~70% of Poles don’t earn average salary and median is 18% bellow average. ~20% of workers earns minimal wage. So i wouldn’t call it ‚pulling ahead‘, more like, creating even more wealth inequality.
https://preview.redd.it/tqyx8092nech1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f2ac410f1fbf93f1f45995c75cc95e86052ea30
https://preview.redd.it/szas4w33nech1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=346754a7f5977b7b0c3b8995d19727671b14ed01
https://preview.redd.it/2ojrgl64nech1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=392230457d984eea9959a3e55c6da1b09859ef4a
https://preview.redd.it/2p36r8j5nech1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c73382c9d985cce774d9b03fdf9d1a41466ed167
https://preview.redd.it/mhwtr43dnech1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=903df160b5be53d79ed2b1b48fc23791ed0ee571
The baseline was also very low to begin with. Also, show us median. Average means f all.
PPP is adjusted to purchasing power, right?
i cannot trust an AI infographic. Some lines look wonky af even if most of them seem plausible. And why are some countries grouped together? Makes no sense
Poland did a spectacular job, but what I don’t understand is why a large portion of the population wants a radical change in the government? Konfa is incredibly incompetent, and their lies would only come to the surface if they got decision-making positions.
Supporters of Euro adoption want the same for Poland!
now adjust by local buying power or real estate prices
No doctors, no problems.
Hey, hey, hey, what’s my beloved Mexico doing in that graphic… it’s an unfair comparison!
The graph clearly shows the GROWTH rate and people in comments are bitching that we don’t make as much as Germans. I mean, duh??? Nobody denies that?
Now put cost of real estates on the scale
Lmfao. Now do purchasing power and you will know where you on the list should be with your zlotes 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wages were growing because we were a source of cheap labor for foreign corporations. Now, they are moving their operations to India, and it is going to hurt because we wasted years of prosperity and failed to learn or develop anything. AI is not helping either.
And ??? The chart still doesn’t makes any sense… Just pure brainwashing to make people think that average Polish family has a good lifestyle – which is NOT
The raise of the wages doesn’t reflect the increased inflation and enormous increase in everyday living costs. Starting from the groceries, gas, electricity and petrol prices… The actual purchase value has greatly decreased – so you can keep on showing the amazing charts – yet the life in Poland is still one of the most expensive in EU …
I’ll just leave this here:
[https://www.bestbrokers.com/forex-brokers/tracking-national-debt-in-28-european-countries/](https://www.bestbrokers.com/forex-brokers/tracking-national-debt-in-28-european-countries/)
https://preview.redd.it/6flnu75gufch1.png?width=872&format=png&auto=webp&s=f7e13cfda162e19526b1f942837daf91ad370cca
Numbers don’t feed people
The lowest wage which is set by gov is a hole. If the calculation doesn’t monitor this, Pl jest bardzo dobrze. If not, we need to wait for the ja pierdole armageddonist inflation my fellow guys.
Bank it and let it compound.
I make 36k (PLN) annualy lol