Its also happening in elementary and middle schools, the teachers aren’t equipped to fight it
Dihedralman on
Honestly, University rankings should consider in-person testing as part of their grade until it becomes the norm.
good4y0u on
Edu sounds like it’s going to go back to in class bluebook with glasses check for smart glasses
emisaurushex on
Baffling to me that it’s not all in-person now anyways. It wasn’t even that long ago I was in university and all of our exams were in person and they constituted something like 90% of our overall grade.
LongMelford on
Bring back the little blue books. In class essay tests. Handwritten.
Jonesbro on
Wait, ivy league schools were doing finals virtual? What kind of insanity?
HoldingThunder on
I almost exclusively had in-person closed book exams in university a decade ago, not sure why anyone would have gone away from that.
badwolf42 on
As someone who went to college in the early 2000’s; it blows my mind that any of the testing at all isn’t in person.
dropthemagic on
Weird. All my tests were done in the classroom. Granted it’s been a while. But I don’t understand why teachers don’t do written exams anymore.
windflex on
It’s insane to me that in-person finals for an Ivy League university aren’t the norm. Even podunk high schools have kids take the ACT in person.
gdirrty216 on
I saw the meme, “eat well and workout today, because your future doctor is using ChatGPT to get through medical school right now”. I thought it was cute and pithy, but I’m starting to think that yes, this is certainly happening all over the country right now
gera_moises on
Are in-person exams not the norm in the US?
malokevi on
Why is remote testing allowed? Am I that old? It was in person, paper and pencil when I graduated uni in 2016.
Feels like a self-inflicted wound. No credible school should allow this.
SayVandalay on
Good more of this. Students need to learn and be able to show competence not copy/paste.
Woodit on
Scary for the future of the country but as a guy in his mid thirties I’m not nearly as worried about being replaced by a recent grad as folks twenty years ago would have been. This focus on just obtaining the degree or cert or whatever doesn’t make them capable and employers have figured this out.
false_goats_beard on
I just finished college and all of my teachers required blue book tests and one even made us hand write our final paper in class with only the notes we brought in that were pre approved by him. This is so stupid that the Ivy League schools are still having this issue when a regular college has clearly figured it out.
HakuohoFan on
Whole generation of kids are gonna stupid as fuck. Guess it’s some degree of job security for me at least.
SirLesbian on
Holy shit did you guys actually read the article though? He said 18 students dropped the course upon learning the mid-term would be in-person and 9 straight up didn’t show for it.
Of those 27 students in particular, 22 of them had scored a perfect 100% on the at-home test. That’s INSANE. It shows that people legitimately aren’t even trying to succeed. They just want AI to do the work for them.
devildog2067 on
I was a college professor in the late 2000s.
A take home exam is different from an in-person exam. It’s intended to be. You have to write it in such a way that being able to look stuff up in the book doesn’t make it easier. I honestly preferred them; it made it much easier to actually test a student’s understanding (vs. their ability to memorize stuff).
Of course this was pre-AI — the only cheating you needed to look out for was copying, and that was relatively easy to spot.
RoomyRoots on
I don’t get this shit. I have done my full course in CC and no teacher ever allowed a digital exam. Some didn’t even allow the use of computers in class. When digital exams became the norm? Covid?
GoodEngineerBadSpy on
Terrible article from the first sentence:
>
>Ivy League college students are, by definition, intelligent.
No, BY DEFINITION, they are students who attend an Ivy League college. Maybe they are intelligent, maybe they are rich, maybe they are famous, maybe they are good at sports. Let’s examine JFK’s Harvard application essay:
>>**Why do you wish to come to Harvard?**
The reasons that I have for wishing to go to Harvard are several. I feel that Harvard can give me a better background and a better liberal education than any other university. I have always wanted to go there, as I have felt that it is not just another college, but is a university with something definite to offer. Then too, I would like to go to the same college as my father. To be a „Harvard man“ is an enviable distinction, and one that I sincerely hope I shall attain.
April 23, 1935
John F. Kennedy
He got in. Sounds like Getting Away With Being Lazy is built into the DNA of the rich kid segment of Ivy students.
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Its also happening in elementary and middle schools, the teachers aren’t equipped to fight it
Honestly, University rankings should consider in-person testing as part of their grade until it becomes the norm.
Edu sounds like it’s going to go back to in class bluebook with glasses check for smart glasses
Baffling to me that it’s not all in-person now anyways. It wasn’t even that long ago I was in university and all of our exams were in person and they constituted something like 90% of our overall grade.
Bring back the little blue books. In class essay tests. Handwritten.
Wait, ivy league schools were doing finals virtual? What kind of insanity?
I almost exclusively had in-person closed book exams in university a decade ago, not sure why anyone would have gone away from that.
As someone who went to college in the early 2000’s; it blows my mind that any of the testing at all isn’t in person.
Weird. All my tests were done in the classroom. Granted it’s been a while. But I don’t understand why teachers don’t do written exams anymore.
It’s insane to me that in-person finals for an Ivy League university aren’t the norm. Even podunk high schools have kids take the ACT in person.
I saw the meme, “eat well and workout today, because your future doctor is using ChatGPT to get through medical school right now”. I thought it was cute and pithy, but I’m starting to think that yes, this is certainly happening all over the country right now
Are in-person exams not the norm in the US?
Why is remote testing allowed? Am I that old? It was in person, paper and pencil when I graduated uni in 2016.
Feels like a self-inflicted wound. No credible school should allow this.
Good more of this. Students need to learn and be able to show competence not copy/paste.
Scary for the future of the country but as a guy in his mid thirties I’m not nearly as worried about being replaced by a recent grad as folks twenty years ago would have been. This focus on just obtaining the degree or cert or whatever doesn’t make them capable and employers have figured this out.
I just finished college and all of my teachers required blue book tests and one even made us hand write our final paper in class with only the notes we brought in that were pre approved by him. This is so stupid that the Ivy League schools are still having this issue when a regular college has clearly figured it out.
Whole generation of kids are gonna stupid as fuck. Guess it’s some degree of job security for me at least.
Holy shit did you guys actually read the article though? He said 18 students dropped the course upon learning the mid-term would be in-person and 9 straight up didn’t show for it.
Of those 27 students in particular, 22 of them had scored a perfect 100% on the at-home test. That’s INSANE. It shows that people legitimately aren’t even trying to succeed. They just want AI to do the work for them.
I was a college professor in the late 2000s.
A take home exam is different from an in-person exam. It’s intended to be. You have to write it in such a way that being able to look stuff up in the book doesn’t make it easier. I honestly preferred them; it made it much easier to actually test a student’s understanding (vs. their ability to memorize stuff).
Of course this was pre-AI — the only cheating you needed to look out for was copying, and that was relatively easy to spot.
I don’t get this shit. I have done my full course in CC and no teacher ever allowed a digital exam. Some didn’t even allow the use of computers in class. When digital exams became the norm? Covid?
Terrible article from the first sentence:
>
>Ivy League college students are, by definition, intelligent.
No, BY DEFINITION, they are students who attend an Ivy League college. Maybe they are intelligent, maybe they are rich, maybe they are famous, maybe they are good at sports. Let’s examine JFK’s Harvard application essay:
>>**Why do you wish to come to Harvard?**
The reasons that I have for wishing to go to Harvard are several. I feel that Harvard can give me a better background and a better liberal education than any other university. I have always wanted to go there, as I have felt that it is not just another college, but is a university with something definite to offer. Then too, I would like to go to the same college as my father. To be a „Harvard man“ is an enviable distinction, and one that I sincerely hope I shall attain.
April 23, 1935
John F. Kennedy
He got in. Sounds like Getting Away With Being Lazy is built into the DNA of the rich kid segment of Ivy students.