Aufgrund strengerer Regeln für Ausländer ist die Erfolgsquote bei der Führerschein-Kenntnisprüfung stark von 92,5 % auf 42,8 % und bei der Fähigkeitsprüfung von 30,4 % auf 13,1 % gesunken.
Aufgrund strengerer Regeln für Ausländer ist die Erfolgsquote bei der Führerschein-Kenntnisprüfung stark von 92,5 % auf 42,8 % und bei der Fähigkeitsprüfung von 30,4 % auf 13,1 % gesunken.
I’ll about that I never had to do either test. But I do drive and I teach at a university where new licence holders drive to. If those people can pass, I honestly can’t see how the foreigner rate is so low.
SemiAnonymousTeacher on
A well-designed test should have a pass rate of around 70%. If it is significantly lower than that, the test is unnecessarily (and purposefully?) difficult.
Chemical_Presence169 on
To no surprise. the written test has awful English, and the practical test is complete horseshit.
Inverse_Delta on
What changed about the test to make it so much more difficult to pass? Why are the rules different/stricter for foreigners when they’d be abiding by the same rules and laws on the road as Japanese drivers?
bulbousbirb on
I did the system from scratch in Japan (as opposed to translating a foreign licence). The English on the theory test questions was so terrible a lot of the questions made no sense. Eventually you get used to the weird phrasing and knew the „right“ answer they wanted.
For the practical test I didn’t feel like they treated me any different to the others. They were strict with everyone. I passed after the third try which is considered pretty good. Some of my Japanese colleagues averaged 5-7 times.
Mundane_Diamond7834 on
The tests for both the learner’s permit (karimen) and the full license (honmen) are pretty easy if you’re willing to study in Japanese.
But if you’re taking them in other languages, good luck. I have a friend from Nepal who failed the karimen in English four times.
Due_Raisin2041 on
The English is weird, but I’d bet most of the test takers are taking it in Chinese
If you do a lot of flashcards, you’ll get the rhythm of the English they use on the test
Not sure what would cause the practical to increase failures. They just added the hill start. With that said, my experience is that the people taking the practical test are largely paper drivers in their own countries and cannot really drive
(When I took it, the person before me literally could not make a turn smoothly or even start moving without giving us whiplash, yet somehow he had a license in his country)
Next, I’d guess nerves
Next, it’s people who didn’t study and don’t show the few things that are Japan specific such as cutting off the bike lane when turning left or stopping at train crossings
Then, some small percentage is cases where someone has a lot of experience and is unfairly being failed for minutiae
Given this is a gaimen kirikae, people who claim to know to drive, I’m not surprised the police err on the strict side because they are tired of having paper drivers come through and in essence lie about their driving ability. This is what they are seeing all day because 99% of people get their licenses through school, not gaimen kirikae
Forward-College5568 on
Got my license yesterday after doing this process, absolute aids.
JapowFZ1 on
‘Hrolicsomely’ was a word on the English version of the written test I took about 18 years ago (Kanagawa). I wrote them a note about the nonsense word, left Japan some time later, and then came back to take the test again about two years after that. Same ‘word’ was on the test.
Jaded-Garage2395 on
What problem does it solve ?
xellos_rj on
Because it’s a scam and run by the police so you can’t possibly complain about it maybe?
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I’ll about that I never had to do either test. But I do drive and I teach at a university where new licence holders drive to. If those people can pass, I honestly can’t see how the foreigner rate is so low.
A well-designed test should have a pass rate of around 70%. If it is significantly lower than that, the test is unnecessarily (and purposefully?) difficult.
To no surprise. the written test has awful English, and the practical test is complete horseshit.
What changed about the test to make it so much more difficult to pass? Why are the rules different/stricter for foreigners when they’d be abiding by the same rules and laws on the road as Japanese drivers?
I did the system from scratch in Japan (as opposed to translating a foreign licence). The English on the theory test questions was so terrible a lot of the questions made no sense. Eventually you get used to the weird phrasing and knew the „right“ answer they wanted.
For the practical test I didn’t feel like they treated me any different to the others. They were strict with everyone. I passed after the third try which is considered pretty good. Some of my Japanese colleagues averaged 5-7 times.
The tests for both the learner’s permit (karimen) and the full license (honmen) are pretty easy if you’re willing to study in Japanese.
But if you’re taking them in other languages, good luck. I have a friend from Nepal who failed the karimen in English four times.
The English is weird, but I’d bet most of the test takers are taking it in Chinese
If you do a lot of flashcards, you’ll get the rhythm of the English they use on the test
Not sure what would cause the practical to increase failures. They just added the hill start. With that said, my experience is that the people taking the practical test are largely paper drivers in their own countries and cannot really drive
(When I took it, the person before me literally could not make a turn smoothly or even start moving without giving us whiplash, yet somehow he had a license in his country)
Next, I’d guess nerves
Next, it’s people who didn’t study and don’t show the few things that are Japan specific such as cutting off the bike lane when turning left or stopping at train crossings
Then, some small percentage is cases where someone has a lot of experience and is unfairly being failed for minutiae
Given this is a gaimen kirikae, people who claim to know to drive, I’m not surprised the police err on the strict side because they are tired of having paper drivers come through and in essence lie about their driving ability. This is what they are seeing all day because 99% of people get their licenses through school, not gaimen kirikae
Got my license yesterday after doing this process, absolute aids.
‘Hrolicsomely’ was a word on the English version of the written test I took about 18 years ago (Kanagawa). I wrote them a note about the nonsense word, left Japan some time later, and then came back to take the test again about two years after that. Same ‘word’ was on the test.
What problem does it solve ?
Because it’s a scam and run by the police so you can’t possibly complain about it maybe?