They should be ashamed to have a system in place to vote a law in a manner worthy of a 3rd world country dictatorship feigning „democracy“…
An absolute travesty is what this was!
shiromiso on
A forced vote pushed through “emergency” procedures the day before the parliaments summer recess. What was the emergency, exactly, after these laws had been overwhelmingly rejected multiple times in less than a year?
Why are they allowed to push them over and over again until they pass? Why was it passed if NO got way more votes? This was absolutely Antidemocratic.
OlegYY on
And this post likely will be locked/removed like all others :/
Pu-Chi-Mao on
Very impopular opinion here….
If implemented correctly I think a lot of good can come from this.
We also need to be honest to ourselves, social-media annonimity hasn’t brought a lot of good and children ARE exposed to some vile shit, this has to stop and needs to be regulated…. and big-tech are not going to regulate anything.
paneuropeanism_ on
It’s the nation states who pushed this, not the EU. In fact, most of the opposition against chat control comes from European Parliament.
Gloomy_Nebula_5138 on
The anti democratic approach taken to force this down people’s throats shows how corrupt the government has become. Speech is absolutely necessary for democracy. And if you have a dystopian surveillance system, that won’t enable free speech.
mage_irl on
Fascinating how in a supposedly democratic society our leaders keep deciding things that the majority of people don’t want
Igiem on
Setting the issues themselves aside, the strangest part of the final European Parliament vote on “Chat Control 1.0” is that more lawmakers voted against it than for it. The final tally was 276 in favour, 314 against, and 17 abstentions. Under normal circumstances, that would look like a defeat, but because of the rare procedural maneuver used to revive the expired measure, opponents needed an absolute majority of 361 votes to block it entirely. They fell 47 votes short, which means the bill passed anyway, and major tech platforms can continue scanning private communications.
RenShimizu on
The only one this helps is the rich who can legally trade this info. If even a single security breach happens you can add P*do’s, stalkers and other criminals to that list as it will be easier than ever for them to find suitable victims for their MO’s.
r0nni3RO on
It’s as if external actors are promoting this crap just to boost euroskepticism.
And all our corrupt reps let them, because they are stupid and corrupt, and don’t see it in the greater scheme of things.
No-Bake-730 on
DEXIT
serce__ on
Well if they scan my private messages from now, I hope they will find that I repeatedly wrote:
„Roberta Metsola is an antidemocratic CUNT“
to all of my friends and family, using several different social platforms and apps.
Segull on
Welcome to your new norm. Once the government has its foot in the door it will be damn near impossible to kick it out.
We’ll see what happens in 2028, but I’d bet it goes the same exact way. To “protect the children” of course…
Delicious-Season5527 on
Another sad precedence for the EU. Directly voting against the wishes of the public. Wishes that has been made very clear multiple times
yar2000 on
What happened here is ridiculous and fully goes against democracy, fuck anyone who voted for this bullshit. Bunch of vultures.
rantotthus2 on
The only Hungarian party voting against it were the straight-up nazis, Fidesz and Tisza voted hand in hand to betray Europeans. Plus the only two Tisza MEP-s who even commented something on the matter told only bullshit. I’ll have a hard time deciding the next time we have an election.
packofcard on
Can we remove: the green party;
SAP; renew Europe and EPP which keep pushing these ideas from the Parliament?
xxpegasxx on
Glad you guys paved the way for our government to introduce the same law in couple of months and referencing your law every time they’ll get criticised for it. Good job. 👍
Wrong-Hospital-911 on
The EU „democracy“ under surveillance. Where freedom is a figure of speech. I feel like Nikki Freeman.
Wooden_Echidna1234 on
>EU Chat Control Vote Extends Surveillance
After that clusterf**k people should think about moving China as its far more free then the EU.
Random-reddit-name95 on
Ma è vero che, tra l’altro, i politici sono esclusi da questa invasione della loro privacy?
NomadSoul22 on
We should all sue to the court of justice
StevieIRL on
And we wonder why Far Right parties are gaining traction?
Fuck the EU and Fuck the EPP!
viskonde on
Shame
For someone naive why they want this so bad ?
ham4ever89 on
So why bother with Votes if they mean shit.
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They should be ashamed to have a system in place to vote a law in a manner worthy of a 3rd world country dictatorship feigning „democracy“…
An absolute travesty is what this was!
A forced vote pushed through “emergency” procedures the day before the parliaments summer recess. What was the emergency, exactly, after these laws had been overwhelmingly rejected multiple times in less than a year?
Why are they allowed to push them over and over again until they pass? Why was it passed if NO got way more votes? This was absolutely Antidemocratic.
And this post likely will be locked/removed like all others :/
Very impopular opinion here….
If implemented correctly I think a lot of good can come from this.
We also need to be honest to ourselves, social-media annonimity hasn’t brought a lot of good and children ARE exposed to some vile shit, this has to stop and needs to be regulated…. and big-tech are not going to regulate anything.
It’s the nation states who pushed this, not the EU. In fact, most of the opposition against chat control comes from European Parliament.
The anti democratic approach taken to force this down people’s throats shows how corrupt the government has become. Speech is absolutely necessary for democracy. And if you have a dystopian surveillance system, that won’t enable free speech.
Fascinating how in a supposedly democratic society our leaders keep deciding things that the majority of people don’t want
Setting the issues themselves aside, the strangest part of the final European Parliament vote on “Chat Control 1.0” is that more lawmakers voted against it than for it. The final tally was 276 in favour, 314 against, and 17 abstentions. Under normal circumstances, that would look like a defeat, but because of the rare procedural maneuver used to revive the expired measure, opponents needed an absolute majority of 361 votes to block it entirely. They fell 47 votes short, which means the bill passed anyway, and major tech platforms can continue scanning private communications.
The only one this helps is the rich who can legally trade this info. If even a single security breach happens you can add P*do’s, stalkers and other criminals to that list as it will be easier than ever for them to find suitable victims for their MO’s.
It’s as if external actors are promoting this crap just to boost euroskepticism.
And all our corrupt reps let them, because they are stupid and corrupt, and don’t see it in the greater scheme of things.
DEXIT
Well if they scan my private messages from now, I hope they will find that I repeatedly wrote:
„Roberta Metsola is an antidemocratic CUNT“
to all of my friends and family, using several different social platforms and apps.
Welcome to your new norm. Once the government has its foot in the door it will be damn near impossible to kick it out.
We’ll see what happens in 2028, but I’d bet it goes the same exact way. To “protect the children” of course…
Another sad precedence for the EU. Directly voting against the wishes of the public. Wishes that has been made very clear multiple times
What happened here is ridiculous and fully goes against democracy, fuck anyone who voted for this bullshit. Bunch of vultures.
The only Hungarian party voting against it were the straight-up nazis, Fidesz and Tisza voted hand in hand to betray Europeans. Plus the only two Tisza MEP-s who even commented something on the matter told only bullshit. I’ll have a hard time deciding the next time we have an election.
Can we remove: the green party;
SAP; renew Europe and EPP which keep pushing these ideas from the Parliament?
Glad you guys paved the way for our government to introduce the same law in couple of months and referencing your law every time they’ll get criticised for it. Good job. 👍
The EU „democracy“ under surveillance. Where freedom is a figure of speech. I feel like Nikki Freeman.
>EU Chat Control Vote Extends Surveillance
After that clusterf**k people should think about moving China as its far more free then the EU.
Ma è vero che, tra l’altro, i politici sono esclusi da questa invasione della loro privacy?
We should all sue to the court of justice
And we wonder why Far Right parties are gaining traction?
Fuck the EU and Fuck the EPP!
Shame
For someone naive why they want this so bad ?
So why bother with Votes if they mean shit.