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    1. anxiousalpaca on

      Hopefully Ukraine can counter this. It was expected that the drone attacks wouldn’t work forever.

    2. Codezombie_5 on

      This has been known for a while, it requires multiple jammers, one for each channel, the kit needed to do it is very bulky, multiple vehicles, and they are a priority target.

    3. erikaspausen on

      Maybe they have. Even if, they are not able to implement it broad scale over the whole country…

    4. I wonder if it would be possible to equip special ECCM drones with home on jam capability. These things are putting out tons of energy, so it should be possible to follow those emissions right back to the source. 

    5. Last-Accountant-9384 on

      History of wars show that what one side develops, the other side eventually finds a solution for and improves on it. Russia first started long range drone attacks with Shahed and Ukraine not only found a solution to the mass attacks but improved on the Shaheds, developing their own long range drones to hit Russia, so for now the tables have turned. It’s a game of cat and mouse as long as there is money to fund the development. Unfortunately Russia still has money so they will find a temporary solution for Starlink and Ukrainian’s long range drones, but NATO also has money so they will find a solution for Russia’s solution, and then Russia will find a solution for NATO’s solution to Russia’s solution, and so on, and so on until one side sees the bottom of their money chest.

    6. Fortunately, they emit a very, very strong signal on the 14-14.5 GHz Starlink frequency band. So they are literally broadcasting their location, making them easy to identify, target and destroy.

      A bigger issue would be ones set up, for example, around a refinery and only activated when incoming drones are spotted. Most refineries would be too far away for fiber optic guidance. Some type of ground tracking could be possible, but expensive. Fortunately, such drones can simply rely on multiple GNSS system signals. Those too can be blocked or spoofed. Very expensive systems would be required at every refinery to jam GNSS and Starlink, which would be technically possible.

      I wonder if a drone could be easily modified to target 14-14.5 GHz frequencies broadcast at a certain strength, basically automating the destruction of the Starlink jammers.

    7. 20km area?

      So they’re super hot on the spectrum for indirect fire assets to be pointed at.

      Constant TTP game. These would have to be dedicated to high value assets, certainly not a robust solution when you share that much land border with the country you decided to start a war with.

    8. Its been true for many months but its a big ass bulky unit that gets instant sniped by ukr drones

    9. >Each complex consists of six trailers with dish antennas that point toward overhead satellites. The report says Ukraine identified 10 systems on the front and destroyed two, with one destroyed within hours of detection.

      So yes they can jam Starlink but its expensive and almost impossible to hide the system given that it’s 6 whole trailers and emits a massive electronic signal lol.

    10. SirTroglodyte on

      A bit, yes. Jamming Starlink requires a lot of power, 6 truck-sized jammers so not very mobile or quick to deploy, and still only works in about a 20km radius area. Also the jamming source is very easy to detect by the satellites themselves. So the moment they turn it on, UA immediately knows where it is, and visits those sites.

    11. Truthisnotallowed on

      Ukraine already has drones that use dead-reckoning to determine their positions. Jamming does almost nothing to them. They are not determining their position by starlink they are determining their position from where they started, how fast they went, and in what direction they went. While there are always small variations caused by wind etc. that will cause them to go a bit off course, since they can not correct by starlink – they still get pretty darn close to their intended targets.

      As usual, Ukraine is one jump ahead of Russia in this drone war.

    12. The real battle here is the software. SpaceX is constantly pushing firmware updates to the terminals and satellites to bypass these jamming attempts. It’s a constant cat-and-mouse game where the hardware can be effective for a few weeks until a patch comes along and renders the jamming frequency obsolete.

    13. Sounds its time to convert HARM missiles or something more modern but similar to starlink frequencies…

    14. Ukrainians easily strike these jammers anyway. Let the Russians waste money on it and bankrupt themselves even more.

    15. It’s clearly working very well what with all those ships and refineries being totally protected from any drone strikes…

    16. StrangerExistingFact on

      It seems they are jamming them right over the rafineries as 8 out of 10 major ones were hit with over 200 hits on oil infrastructure in last month and a half

    17. It’s good chance to investigate and test anti-jaming improve system for starlink

    18. Esperacchiusdamascus on

      Sounds like musk „knows alot about starlink“ like he did about voting tabulators.

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