The US Navy, a crucial instrument for Washington’s military power projection, faces severe constraints due to its diminished shipbuilding capacity. US global shipbuilding production has plummeted from 90% to less than 0.13%, while China fulfills 71% of global orders, producing 232 times more tonnage. The People’s Liberation Army Navy ([PLA Navy](https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/backgrounder-chinas-pla-navy-comes-of-age/)) now surpasses the US Navy with 234 warships to 219, projected to reach 435 by 2030.
In 2025, the US Navy decommissioned 19 ships while commissioning only two, a net loss of 17 vessels. The PLA Navy’s Type 055 destroyers also feature superior missile capacity and hypersonic capabilities. Recent operations, like the [Iran war](https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/tag/israel-iran-war/), exposed the US Navy’s inadequate anti-drone defenses, forcing multi-million dollar interceptors against $20,000 drones, creating a 1,400:1 cost asymmetry.
This inability to rapidly construct new vessels hinders technology integration, forcing costly retrofitting. In a protracted conflict, the United States would likely lose ships faster than it could replace them, a critical disadvantage against China’s robust industrial base.
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Coolerguy317 on
I think the shipbuilding point is real but this reduces naval power to one variable. What war are we actually talking about? Any navy is going to struggle fighting right off a peers coastline. It also glosses over the difference between commercial shipbuilding and building advanced warships and it underplays things like experience, logistics, doctrine, and alliances. Shipbuilding matters but it’s not the whole story.
Jonesy1138 on
Drones will make all of this obsolete.
SamIamGreenEggsNoHam on
Maybe if they stop starting and stopping shipbuilding projects they’ll actually lay down some ships.
CliftonForce on
One of the few things the US can still build are aircraft carriers. They desperately need to create shipyards capable of building smaller warships. And you can’t build those yards unless you order a lot of small warships to make in them.
So *of course* the decision is to start making battleships again. Which require the same shipyards used to build carriers.
InternetSam on
This comes off to me like an article about lack of bayonets and horses. A certain amount of warships are still important, but let’s be honest about how most future wars will be waged: drones, cyber attacks, and economic warfare.
mycatisgrumpy on
I think most US industries aren’t ready for a war. Remember how we all learned in elementary school that America won WW2 because of our superior manufacturing base? Because we were producing nine Sherman tanks for every panzer. Ford was making planes and Singer sewing machine was making bombsights. These days, we simply don’t have a manufacturing base that could be militarized in the same way, and China does. If it ever came to open war with China, if they switched over to a fully wartime economy, they would absolutely bury us.
Jodid0 on
Struggling to find the bright side for the western allies in a littoral conflict with China in the South China Sea.
In that scenario, China has access to all of its land based missiles and aircraft in addition to its navy. It has the capability to strike at Guam from the mainland and cripple major refueling and resupply ports for allied ships. China has also been building artificial islands in the SCS with their own military installations and have been laying buoys and listening arrays as well.
So already the numbers are stacked pretty tall in favor of China. But most importantly, after the shooting starts, there is an extremely small window of opportunity to end the conflict and beat China before the allied forces run out of ammunition and start losing ships they absolutely cannot replace in a reasonable timescale. It’s not *just* about China’s overall industrial capacity or their shipbuilding tonnage output, it’s also about their access to advanced tooling and a highly skilled workforce capable of pivoting manufacturing from commerical to military use. It’s about the fact that China’s merchant marine fleet is not only significantly larger, but capable of being converted into auxillary ships. This is especially true now when containerized VLS and radar systems are already being deployed and used.
This is without even touching on drone technology, drone manufacturing, and innovation in that space.
20000RadsUnderTheSea on
Nothing in this country is ready for war. There are parasites at every level making everything cost 100x inflation adjusted and take 10x longer than it did 50, 60, 70 years ago, despite massive technological increases. The parasites won, and now the host is dying.
bleakapparatus8223 on
Looking at this lineup, half these hulls look overdue for refits. Hard to project power when your fleet’s mostly pier queen status.
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The US Navy, a crucial instrument for Washington’s military power projection, faces severe constraints due to its diminished shipbuilding capacity. US global shipbuilding production has plummeted from 90% to less than 0.13%, while China fulfills 71% of global orders, producing 232 times more tonnage. The People’s Liberation Army Navy ([PLA Navy](https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/backgrounder-chinas-pla-navy-comes-of-age/)) now surpasses the US Navy with 234 warships to 219, projected to reach 435 by 2030.
In 2025, the US Navy decommissioned 19 ships while commissioning only two, a net loss of 17 vessels. The PLA Navy’s Type 055 destroyers also feature superior missile capacity and hypersonic capabilities. Recent operations, like the [Iran war](https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/tag/israel-iran-war/), exposed the US Navy’s inadequate anti-drone defenses, forcing multi-million dollar interceptors against $20,000 drones, creating a 1,400:1 cost asymmetry.
This inability to rapidly construct new vessels hinders technology integration, forcing costly retrofitting. In a protracted conflict, the United States would likely lose ships faster than it could replace them, a critical disadvantage against China’s robust industrial base.
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I think the shipbuilding point is real but this reduces naval power to one variable. What war are we actually talking about? Any navy is going to struggle fighting right off a peers coastline. It also glosses over the difference between commercial shipbuilding and building advanced warships and it underplays things like experience, logistics, doctrine, and alliances. Shipbuilding matters but it’s not the whole story.
Drones will make all of this obsolete.
Maybe if they stop starting and stopping shipbuilding projects they’ll actually lay down some ships.
One of the few things the US can still build are aircraft carriers. They desperately need to create shipyards capable of building smaller warships. And you can’t build those yards unless you order a lot of small warships to make in them.
So *of course* the decision is to start making battleships again. Which require the same shipyards used to build carriers.
This comes off to me like an article about lack of bayonets and horses. A certain amount of warships are still important, but let’s be honest about how most future wars will be waged: drones, cyber attacks, and economic warfare.
I think most US industries aren’t ready for a war. Remember how we all learned in elementary school that America won WW2 because of our superior manufacturing base? Because we were producing nine Sherman tanks for every panzer. Ford was making planes and Singer sewing machine was making bombsights. These days, we simply don’t have a manufacturing base that could be militarized in the same way, and China does. If it ever came to open war with China, if they switched over to a fully wartime economy, they would absolutely bury us.
Struggling to find the bright side for the western allies in a littoral conflict with China in the South China Sea.
In that scenario, China has access to all of its land based missiles and aircraft in addition to its navy. It has the capability to strike at Guam from the mainland and cripple major refueling and resupply ports for allied ships. China has also been building artificial islands in the SCS with their own military installations and have been laying buoys and listening arrays as well.
So already the numbers are stacked pretty tall in favor of China. But most importantly, after the shooting starts, there is an extremely small window of opportunity to end the conflict and beat China before the allied forces run out of ammunition and start losing ships they absolutely cannot replace in a reasonable timescale. It’s not *just* about China’s overall industrial capacity or their shipbuilding tonnage output, it’s also about their access to advanced tooling and a highly skilled workforce capable of pivoting manufacturing from commerical to military use. It’s about the fact that China’s merchant marine fleet is not only significantly larger, but capable of being converted into auxillary ships. This is especially true now when containerized VLS and radar systems are already being deployed and used.
This is without even touching on drone technology, drone manufacturing, and innovation in that space.
Nothing in this country is ready for war. There are parasites at every level making everything cost 100x inflation adjusted and take 10x longer than it did 50, 60, 70 years ago, despite massive technological increases. The parasites won, and now the host is dying.
Looking at this lineup, half these hulls look overdue for refits. Hard to project power when your fleet’s mostly pier queen status.