If building a pipeline is worth it and boost GDP. Then I’m for it. If we have to heavily subsidize it to even make it happen and it doesn’t provide any benefit except to the corporations who own it. Then Im against it.
I’m sure if everyone had the nuance there would be a different result than a simple yes or no poll.
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nihiriju on
I wrote several letters to MPs and MLA address why I did not support the pipeline. I skipped all environmental arguments and focused purely on economics.
How the pipeline is a subsidy and doesn’t pay for itself.
How the Asian markets are rapidly transitioning and to believe they will be there in 15 years is very risky.
And how our money, and political will power (focus) could be better spent in so many other places.
This oil crap is stealing all of the aspirations of Canadians.
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Harbinger2001 on
I’m not surprised. He’s actually reading Canadians mood very well. And building it along side an existing route helps minimize the impacts.
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>But then, the PMO-supervised pollster went deeper and asked what, to many pollsters, would be considered a leading question — a “push-poll” — in which the question might be designed to skew the response. The leading question, in this case, appeared to be skewed towards opponents of a new oil pipeline.
>The question, according to the documents obtained by Global News through an access-to-information request, that was put to survey participants in this live-agent telephone poll was: “One way of increasing energy exports to overseas markets is to build new pipelines. However, despite their contribution to the economy, some point out that building pipelines involves cutting corridors across ecosystems, with impacts on nature and habitat, and pipelines come with risks of leaks and spills. Given that, do you support new or expanded pipelines?”
Even with a question loaded to discourage pipelines there was still majority support. It’s pretty difficult to accuse the government of forcing this or not listening to the people. If we’re gonna do it, better the party that isn’t going to just damn the environment to make it happen, not to say they won’t screw it up.
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Phone polls are notoriously skewed toward older people in general…. Like boomer level.
Article is bad too, it describes the poll as loaded toward the environmental side because that objection is mentioned, while ignoring that it also mentions the economic necessity, and again, you’re polling old people… It was very obviously skewed toward building the pipeline.
Now that the government is agreeing to pay for this… The only question I have is: who owns it? If it’s the public, then fine, if it’s still going to be provided to some private Corp (probably American) then stop it…
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If building a pipeline is worth it and boost GDP. Then I’m for it. If we have to heavily subsidize it to even make it happen and it doesn’t provide any benefit except to the corporations who own it. Then Im against it.
I’m sure if everyone had the nuance there would be a different result than a simple yes or no poll.
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I wrote several letters to MPs and MLA address why I did not support the pipeline. I skipped all environmental arguments and focused purely on economics.
How the pipeline is a subsidy and doesn’t pay for itself.
How the Asian markets are rapidly transitioning and to believe they will be there in 15 years is very risky.
And how our money, and political will power (focus) could be better spent in so many other places.
This oil crap is stealing all of the aspirations of Canadians.
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I’m not surprised. He’s actually reading Canadians mood very well. And building it along side an existing route helps minimize the impacts.
>But then, the PMO-supervised pollster went deeper and asked what, to many pollsters, would be considered a leading question — a “push-poll” — in which the question might be designed to skew the response. The leading question, in this case, appeared to be skewed towards opponents of a new oil pipeline.
>The question, according to the documents obtained by Global News through an access-to-information request, that was put to survey participants in this live-agent telephone poll was: “One way of increasing energy exports to overseas markets is to build new pipelines. However, despite their contribution to the economy, some point out that building pipelines involves cutting corridors across ecosystems, with impacts on nature and habitat, and pipelines come with risks of leaks and spills. Given that, do you support new or expanded pipelines?”
Even with a question loaded to discourage pipelines there was still majority support. It’s pretty difficult to accuse the government of forcing this or not listening to the people. If we’re gonna do it, better the party that isn’t going to just damn the environment to make it happen, not to say they won’t screw it up.
Phone polls are notoriously skewed toward older people in general…. Like boomer level.
Article is bad too, it describes the poll as loaded toward the environmental side because that objection is mentioned, while ignoring that it also mentions the economic necessity, and again, you’re polling old people… It was very obviously skewed toward building the pipeline.
Now that the government is agreeing to pay for this… The only question I have is: who owns it? If it’s the public, then fine, if it’s still going to be provided to some private Corp (probably American) then stop it…