Und was bedeutet es? Ich bin nicht sehr gut in Norwegisch. Tut mir leid, dass mein Beitrag nicht auf Norwegisch ist (ich lerne Bokmål)
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Und was bedeutet es? Ich bin nicht sehr gut in Norwegisch. Tut mir leid, dass mein Beitrag nicht auf Norwegisch ist (ich lerne Bokmål)
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«… en stor stue»
It’s not easy, can’t explain why „stue“ has a gender and house don’t.
Ei = female
En = male
Et = no gender.
For stue (living room) you can use both ei or en (male or female), go figure
Stue can be either ei or en it really depends on dialect. All nouns have a gender so et hus, ei stue, en tv.
Ei is used more in speach with the exception of Bergen when all ei is en!
Absolutely no logic to it. Kjøleskap (fridge) is neuter, fryser (freezer) is masculine. Simply have to learn it word by word. One of the hardest parts of learning Norwegian. We’ll understand you regardless, but not attempting to learn it and just picking one will sound very strange to us.
Its tricky and depends on dilelect sometimes. I dont often use ei
Traditionally: ei stue. Common: en stue.
You may be aware of r/norsk for questions about language
Neuter-gendered nouns have to be learned by heart, there’s no system to it. Google a list.
As for feminine and masculine nouns, you should learn the common feminine ones and use *Ei* for those (examples: *ei sol, ei hytte, ei stue),* then go with *En* for everything else, using all -*en -* endings to the nouns and not *-a* endings (example: solen, hytten, stuen instead of sola, hytta, stua).
You can technically use *En* for everything and pretend *Ei* doesn’t exist, but be aware that only a few dialects and socialects do this, so it will mess with your ability to understand the vast majority of native speakers.
I would have said “en stor stue”, I don’t know why it said “et” there
Welcome to noun genders. House (hus) is neuter, therefore et. Living room (stue) is feminine, therefore ei. And as u/NavoiiGamerYes points out, he/she would say „en stor stue“; „en“ is the masculine article. Some speakers turn some (or in extreme cases, all) feminine nouns into masculine ones.
But Norwegian has three noun genders. Therefore, there are three different words that mean „a“: En bil, ei stue, et hus. The same situation with the definite article: Bilen, stua, huset.
[https://preply.com/en/blog/norwegian-nouns/](https://preply.com/en/blog/norwegian-nouns/) goes into a bit more detail.
Never
Et hus – husET
En stue – stuEN
Ei jente – jentA
Female nouns are more common in rural dialects, which has led to some cities developing dialects where all female nouns (or nouns that are female in other regions) are given male endings.
This was of course done to differentiate themselves from the peasants. Or it can be seen as a result of influence from Danish.
You see this in most of Bergen, parts of Oslo, and some in Trondheim. And in Riksmål. These dialects only have male and neuter nouns.
And on the other side, Nynorsk is full of female nouns.
Bokmål tries to cover as many as possible, so here both options are allowed in most cases. Language teachers will stress consistency. If you choose one form based on where you live and the language spoken around you, stick to that.
And as others have said: There is not much of a system, so just get down to memorizing noun genders.
In addition to everything here, this is also that it feels ‘natural’ to use one of en, ei, et, and using the wrong one just feels wrong. They are functionally the same and you will be understood if you just stick to one of them, ‘en’ is the most common.
For example, I could not explain why it’s ‘en båt’ (boat) ‘ei ferge’ (ferry) and ‘et skip’ (ship).
If it’s bokmål I don’t think you’ll see „ei“. You’ll see en (male) and et (neuter).
Here in Bergen; never.
In your example „stue“ is commonly both male and female gender. I would say and write „en stue“, and be correct, and no one would correct me.
I’m not sure if Duolingo is advanced enough to handle cases that don’t have well defined rules.
In the end, this is a case of just remembering how the words are used, there is no cheating codes or rule book other than a dictionary.
It’s an irregular rule. You just have to memorize it. But for the future, it’s common to say „en stor stue“ or „én stor stue“ depending on if the plurality is the point of the sentence.
Most Norwegian words that has a gender (male or female) you can get away using «en» instead of «ei». At least in my dialect (Oslo). I even say «en jente», and people don’t care except the rare occasion when trying to make a point of correcting me.
For words of neutral gender, there is unfortunately only one way to learn them: practice!
PS: I’m a native speaker, so I haven’t learned the rules of my language from a teacher except in primary school, I just speak it. Language nerds may correct me if I’m wrong 😊
Nothing works best. Just stor stue.
This stuff isn’t logical, so unfortunately there is no easy rule to remember. We will understand even if you say it wrong, but it’s great to learn them, it will sound better (at least for us).
I will say (and most “bokmål“-speaking):
Vi trenger et hus med en stor stue.
But it’s correct to use ei stor stue, so both will be ok in real life 🙂