Gesichtsbedeckungen sollen im gesamten Bezirk Stafford verboten werden
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg4357n40eo
Von weregonnamakit
Gesichtsbedeckungen sollen im gesamten Bezirk Stafford verboten werden
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg4357n40eo
Von weregonnamakit
30 Kommentare
If someone’s going to wear a ski mask in this weather, fair play to them.
I see we’re doing the *“authoritarianism but with religious exemptions“* thing again. Daft.
> Councillor Jill Hood said banning face coverings would support public safety
This is like the opposite of nominative determinism
>People wearing face coverings for genuine religious purposes or health reasons would be exempt, the report added.
What religion demands face coverings? Because Burqas and the like are not religiously demanded and are instead cultural.
Yet I don’t see the plod likely to go after them.
„People wearing face coverings for genuine religious purposes or health reasons would be exempt, the report added.“
So you can still wear a facemask then.
„People wearing face coverings for genuine religious purposes“
Why should an exemption be made for an imaginary man in the sky?
„by the way, this law only applies to non-muslims“
„I wonder why people are starting to resent Islam. Eh, must be the media’s fault“
Doesn’t sit entirely well with me but I probably think all face covering (I guess besides medical face masks) should be banned. A little authoritarian though.
I’m sure balaclavas were illegal when I was a kid (80s)
Guess all the youths will just wear a cap and medical facemask for anonymity instead.
Unless it’s a blanket ban in public it won’t do anything. Any exception will be abused
This was fairly commonplace wasn’t it before Covid when the rules kind of had to be dropped because of the requirement/request to wear masks in public.
I know the infamous „Matrix Squad“ of Merseyside Police did a fantastic job in cracking down on genuinely dangerous teenage gangs in Liverpool after Rhys Jones was shot, and I’m fairly certain banning teenagers wearing face coverings in public was part of that. Could be wrong.
But I know they took to wearing them again during Covid „because we’ve been told to“ (albeit a bally not a paper mask) and it’s kind of not gone away.
You either ban them across the board or not at all.
Niqab (you rarely if ever see Burka in the UK, let’s be realistic) is part of the islamic principle of modesty. I find it sexist (because it is) but that’s what it is.
The „religious purpose“ is to provide coverage and modesty to Muslim women.
Can we do this for the whole UK? There’s way too many dodgy youths wearing balaclavas all over the place. It’s unsettling
This sub: this law is authoritarian but if it didn’t exclude Muslims it would be totally ok
Imagine the police arresting the furries for wearing their suit heads at public meets. Yes, there is a Stafford furries group.
How does someone claim to be religious if for example a bank robber dresses in a niqab and claims it’s for religious reasons?
Here I am in the minority, where kids wearing balaclavas being antisocial on escooters are comparable to Middle Eastern women wearing a Niqab
This isn’t preventative, rather, it’s retroactive.
Someone arrested for XYZ reason, will get an additional charge of “wearing a face covering” — while officers can use the face covering excuse to harass people that would previously have had recourse by law.
– Wearing a hood?
– Wearing a medical face mask?
– Having a scarf that sits a bit high?
– Not even wearing anything, but having it argues that your face was “obstructed”?
It should be banned for everyone or no one. Why does a person’s religion make them exempt?
UK should ban covering your face in public. Absolutely wild that you can walk around looking like a terrorist and it’s fine.
Why do you need to hide your face? Up to no good?
Anything to make Stratford less of the fucking shithole it is, is welcome
> People wearing face coverings for genuine religious purposes or health reasons would be exempt, the report added.
Religion should be bending the knee to the law, not the other way round.
Good. Unless we go back into another pandemic and there’s medical necessity then this is much needed. Too .any little fick heads going around ballied up to hide their identity.
I understand the thinking behind this decision. Roadmen in balaclavas are obviously the ones causing the trouble this is aiming to stifle, not muslim ladies in a niqab or burka.
But what is the bar for forming a recognised religion?
If religious exemptions are a way to avoid laws, what’s to stop a criminal group forming a religion that includes „beliefs“ such as you must wear a face covering or carry a ceremonial knife?
Cool story, well I’ll just come up with my new faith then, the Temple of Equinox. We worship the Sun as a deity. We believe faces should always be covered to not be seen as trying to outshine His Celestial Majesty’s golden visage.
All our members are free to wear all the black puffy jackets, black joggers and black sliders with accompanying black man-purse thing that they like, so long as they cover their faces.
EDIT: In fact we actively encourage dressing in all the black so that we are all the better able to absorb the energy of our most beloved heavenly body’s heat and light.
Praise Sol!
When I was 15 I went on the tube in fancy dress, with a black sheet covering my head. Sat at the platform waiting to for the train, it wasn’t long before a Transport Police Officer came over to me and told me to remove it „as we need to see your face for security purposes“. I was a mouthy little shit, but I didn’t hesitate to comply. Ranted to my friends about „what if I was a Muslim woman??“ but at the end of the day, I wasn’t! Good on that cop.
Cool! As an added and totally unrelated bonus, the tiny little dynamic pricing cameras popping up in the shops can see you better and bump up the prices depending on your totally secure and private data (which is tied to your face, thanks digital ID for keeping all those kids safe though)
Unfortunately, with the increasing mass surveillance and AI facial recognition systems, the concept of face coverings is now a very valid one in order to make sure people can still protest without fear (and I mean for both left and right wing).
Yes, coverings are being used by criminals, but there is now more reason than ever for law-abiding citizens to want them.
Banning them isn’t a good idea.
Should be going full France on this really.
Instead religion is getting exemptions again.