So we can afford to bailout rich developers, and subsidize their losses, (antithetical to a free market,) but we also have to cut support for refugees?
X1989xx on
Yeah no shit, maybe next time build something people want to live it.
Thank God we have the housing mastermind who oversaw this shitshow as the mayor of Vancouver on the case as housing minister to ensure the poor developers don’t need to face the consequences of their actions.
599Ninja on
„Welp that’s the risk of business man.“
Every single small business that has gone under had that told to them in their insolvency meeting…
ghost_n_the_shell on
Bailing out rich developers who built million dollar condos no one wants.
The highest of elbows, my friends. We must think of the developers. We can’t expect them to be accountable.
zachem62 on
We’re told there’s no money for healthcare, education or other public services, so budgets for everything must be cut left and right. But when private developers made bad business decisions, suddenly the government has billions to freely give away. Funny how that works.
--prism on
Why can’t they use that money to employ any unemployed workers to build even more supply to wring out the supply from the developers as it continues to fall in value?
civicsfactor on
How much loss? Are they opening their books to confirm?
What about purchasing the units at-cost?
Will we know the formulas? Or get to see what „break even“ looks like?
If there’s bulk or block purchasing of units is there a wholesale deal?
Ultimately, what’s being paid for, how much does it cost, and what will they be offered to people who need it for?
There was a CBC interview with the head of Ontario something other for housing who said it’s actually CHEAPER to build larger units because the kitchen appliances and electrification costs are reduced. Which does make sense. More empty space, less stoves, fridges, pipes and circuits etc.
So if it really is these tiny condos were made as investment vehicles, as commodities, then that makes bailing them out look so much worse.
So again, at cost? Will they be offered to people who need it for how much?
This just looks like bending over backwards powerlessly and if developers refuse to sell unless they make a profit, what message does that send?
Privatizing public this or that because you’re low on money, pumping immigration rates to appease Chambers of Commerce lobbies, blanket rezoning and finger wagging at local governments who have only two ways of raising money for infrastructure, while chronically underfunding social and health services when its the cities who feel that neglect most on its streets, then when developers overbuild their commodity and refuse to sell at a loss, what word other than „bail“ applies?
DingBat99999 on
The resistance to green technology is also mostly based in the fear of stranded assets.
If only the commitment to „free market principles“ included saying „suck it“ to corporations that make bad decisions.
Adventurous_Storm232 on
Wow, Carney. An argument could perhaps be made in favour of the bailout, but you gotta phrase it in terms of benefit for the people. If your argument is „Won’t someone think of the poor developers?“, well, that’s on par with Trudeau’s „I don’t think about the economy“. This also confirms that the government isn’t buying these condos at a reduced rate in bulk.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’m starting to think Avi Lewis might have a shot in the next election.
Smart_Recipe_8223 on
What a pathetic answer. What happened to the free market? Oh right that doesn’t exist for rich people.
They made a bad business decision they should deal with it. What should we care if they take a loss? How does bailing out the people who already don’t pay their fair share help anyone?
mlac645 on
Well I’m so glad our good guy government have these rich developers best interests in mind! Now they can all line up to get bailed out! So happy for them! Meanwhile young Canadians can’t find a job and the average Canadian can barely afford groceries. Anyways….
HarmfuIThoughts on
There is a risk that developer insolvencies can tighten credit markets and thus make it harder to buy and build new homes, which could make the housing crisis worse. But if that’s the case, we should be offering a backstop to the banks to give them the confidence to keep current lending rates.
Quirky-Cat2860 on
So does this mean that all those landlords or homeowners who bought their houses at a high price during the pandemic will also get a bailout?
the-mongoose- on
Privatizing the gains, socializing the losses. There’s really no other way to put it. It’s pretty wild the developer didn’t even consider local incomes in propping up wildly inflated condo prices.
I think it’s frankly shameful that what amounts to a bailout for developers is being packaged and sold as affordable housing.
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So we can afford to bailout rich developers, and subsidize their losses, (antithetical to a free market,) but we also have to cut support for refugees?
Yeah no shit, maybe next time build something people want to live it.
Thank God we have the housing mastermind who oversaw this shitshow as the mayor of Vancouver on the case as housing minister to ensure the poor developers don’t need to face the consequences of their actions.
„Welp that’s the risk of business man.“
Every single small business that has gone under had that told to them in their insolvency meeting…
Bailing out rich developers who built million dollar condos no one wants.
The highest of elbows, my friends. We must think of the developers. We can’t expect them to be accountable.
We’re told there’s no money for healthcare, education or other public services, so budgets for everything must be cut left and right. But when private developers made bad business decisions, suddenly the government has billions to freely give away. Funny how that works.
Why can’t they use that money to employ any unemployed workers to build even more supply to wring out the supply from the developers as it continues to fall in value?
How much loss? Are they opening their books to confirm?
What about purchasing the units at-cost?
Will we know the formulas? Or get to see what „break even“ looks like?
If there’s bulk or block purchasing of units is there a wholesale deal?
Ultimately, what’s being paid for, how much does it cost, and what will they be offered to people who need it for?
There was a CBC interview with the head of Ontario something other for housing who said it’s actually CHEAPER to build larger units because the kitchen appliances and electrification costs are reduced. Which does make sense. More empty space, less stoves, fridges, pipes and circuits etc.
So if it really is these tiny condos were made as investment vehicles, as commodities, then that makes bailing them out look so much worse.
So again, at cost? Will they be offered to people who need it for how much?
This just looks like bending over backwards powerlessly and if developers refuse to sell unless they make a profit, what message does that send?
Privatizing public this or that because you’re low on money, pumping immigration rates to appease Chambers of Commerce lobbies, blanket rezoning and finger wagging at local governments who have only two ways of raising money for infrastructure, while chronically underfunding social and health services when its the cities who feel that neglect most on its streets, then when developers overbuild their commodity and refuse to sell at a loss, what word other than „bail“ applies?
The resistance to green technology is also mostly based in the fear of stranded assets.
If only the commitment to „free market principles“ included saying „suck it“ to corporations that make bad decisions.
Wow, Carney. An argument could perhaps be made in favour of the bailout, but you gotta phrase it in terms of benefit for the people. If your argument is „Won’t someone think of the poor developers?“, well, that’s on par with Trudeau’s „I don’t think about the economy“. This also confirms that the government isn’t buying these condos at a reduced rate in bulk.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’m starting to think Avi Lewis might have a shot in the next election.
What a pathetic answer. What happened to the free market? Oh right that doesn’t exist for rich people.
They made a bad business decision they should deal with it. What should we care if they take a loss? How does bailing out the people who already don’t pay their fair share help anyone?
Well I’m so glad our good guy government have these rich developers best interests in mind! Now they can all line up to get bailed out! So happy for them! Meanwhile young Canadians can’t find a job and the average Canadian can barely afford groceries. Anyways….
There is a risk that developer insolvencies can tighten credit markets and thus make it harder to buy and build new homes, which could make the housing crisis worse. But if that’s the case, we should be offering a backstop to the banks to give them the confidence to keep current lending rates.
So does this mean that all those landlords or homeowners who bought their houses at a high price during the pandemic will also get a bailout?
Privatizing the gains, socializing the losses. There’s really no other way to put it. It’s pretty wild the developer didn’t even consider local incomes in propping up wildly inflated condo prices.
I think it’s frankly shameful that what amounts to a bailout for developers is being packaged and sold as affordable housing.