If an American tourist gets killed it might make the Gardai reappear again for a few weeks.
Significant_Pop_5337 on
„Well known bar“. Can honestly say I’ve never heard of it
Naggins on
People gotta stop externalising and projecting their own anxieties and worries onto some imaginary invisible ether that just hangs in the air.
Pangalonia on
Imagine the minister talking about gun crime compared to the US. What a low bar and cop out.
stalwartvic on
Jim o’callaghan justifying antisocial behaviour in dublin by comparing it to the US? Every time there’s a story about antisocial behaviour it’s dublin or cork. The area around Connolly is dodgy as fuck yet you hardly ever see a garda around there because we don’t see crime like the US?
TheBacklogReviews on
“You may have data and evidence on your side, but I get really bad vibes, so”
Craicriture on
Dublin isn’t a “very large city” – it’s a fairly small-average European capital. It just has a *highly* visible city centre hard drugs issue – I’d easily reckon it’s an outlier in Europe on that. It also has a growing a population that’s taking cocaine as casually as eating a packet of sweets – and that’s playing out as the weird, aggressive, strange behaviour that you’re seeing and that’s making the place way less fun to be in. It’s shifted from relatively good craic to having a cohort that’s just obnoxious to be around, and there’s an element with an extremely anti social thuggish attitude that’s just not being adequately responded to by policing and judiciary.
Jealous-Shop-8866 on
Jim is a pox. Orrible shite outta him referencing guncrime.
Large-Example1665 on
Young people are priced our of going out, there are fewer third spaces where you can hang out comfortably without spending money. stupid drug laws drive criminality in the city, housing policy drives homelessness and this is the outcome. More Gardas might be needed only but it isnt a solution, it is a band aid.
RomfordWellington on
The truth is somewhere in the middle. I’ve lived here all my life and never had trouble in town but I was threatened to „be slashed“ by an aggressive addict after I told him to stop getting into women’s faces on the red line the other day.
The concentration of non-official addiction and homeless services on major streets like Grafton St and O’Connell St is a huge issue now. You can feel the vibe change as soon as the tables are put up and the vans arrive.
This idea of high visibility policing is a joke. We can see the police there. They just don’t do anything. They’ll literally walk by a group of pickpockets or the grey tracksuit brigade on illegal escooters and not bother them. The whole point of the police is to move these people out of the city if they’ve no business being there
The same with the security on the luas. They won’t even inspect tickets of the yup bros and racists but will hand out fines to people that have had an accidental tap in or tap out nightmare.
Alarming_Ability_687 on
Maybe they could actually have some guards patrol the streets of major cities that’d be a nice to make it feel safe and would actually be safe in the main areas to go for a pint and walk home.
caisdara on
It’s always amazing seeing how many people on here reject actual statistics because they want to be afraid.
It’s pathetic.
Archamasse on
It was fairly eye opening how blissfully calm O’Connell Street felt when it was flooded with guards for a few days after the riots. Gave me food for thought tbh.
No-Outside6067 on
> He added that a “doughnut effect” had seen the city centre emptied out of people residing in the city on a full-time basis, which he argued had deepened safety issues at night
Probably has a bit of a point here. City centre hollowed out of residents in favour of hotels for tourists.
N81Warrior on
Crime rates are only as reliable as the crimes that are actually reported and recorded in the system. Having worked and lived in the city, there is unquestionably a growing sense of unease among ordinary people going about their daily lives.
The city seems to be more neglected and untidy than before. From a criminological point of view, this is significant. Visible disorder can undermine informal social controls, fostering an environment where social boundaries start to break down, respect for communal areas diminishes, and antisocial or criminal activities become more accepted.
Big_Worth_3909 on
City Centre is a dump. Well, large parts of it. The amount of junkies is out of control with very little Garda presence. The place needs to be flooded with cops
catchme32 on
It’s crazy how much Irish people downplay this. Yes, crime stats are decreasing. No, that doesn’t mean Dublin is safe or even pleasant to be in. Accepting open hard drug use, aggressive behaviour and constant low-level shite that never makes it to a court (hello dart carriage) is just pathetic. Just because there’s been progress in some areas, does not mean people should just ignore what everyone can see around Dublin every single day.
ruready8514 on
Well, when you adopt the American suburban sprawl style housing, and neglect to build up in the city, adopt anti social urban planning with barely any public space, or seating, or tackle drug problems, and put every drug centre and homeless centre in a city… THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.
Mick_vader on
Regardless of who this bar owner is (or where it is), I would challenge any current FFFG TD to stand on the corner of Westmoreland street for an hour and just observe their surroundings. The main street of our capital has junkies pissing on corners, openly smoking crack, buying drugs from yup bros. I watched a woman waiting for the Airport bus on Aston Quay being hassled by junkies asking for her change because she dropped a few coins that she was clearly going to use for the ticket for the bus.
Simple solution? Have the guards stationed there. 1 guard would be enough. Move them along. Dublin city centre is no place for junkies, drug dealers or yup bros to use as their romping ground
RudeRoutine1727 on
Dublin City is an absolute kip. It’s extremely depressing as a Dubliner. Drug users and hopeless kids are give full reign to poison the vibe. I live on the northside but would never go to a bar or restaurant on the northside of the city at night. Henry street during the day js just about acceptable so long as you have somewhere to go like Arnotts or Dunnes and that you have your wits about you.
SundownMojo on
Need to legalize cannibas and chill everyone out.
Smoked_Eels on
What’s Dublin City being compared to?
I’d rather stroll through the city than a subarb in West Dublin and I’m from there.
If it’s being compared to some town in the middle of nowhere then of course it seems rough.
It’s a bit ropey… but it’s an actual city centre.
Soft-Affect-8327 on
Innur sihhy skangers been innur sihhy skangers since I was in college, and long before. Same old same old.
GazelleIll495 on
Drugs are te problem. Heroine has been destroying city centre communities since the 80s and cocaine is turning people into lunatics. Policing is too slack and the result is a bit of a shitshow
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Save you a click: Ian Redmond, who runs Hyde Bar.
If an American tourist gets killed it might make the Gardai reappear again for a few weeks.
„Well known bar“. Can honestly say I’ve never heard of it
People gotta stop externalising and projecting their own anxieties and worries onto some imaginary invisible ether that just hangs in the air.
Imagine the minister talking about gun crime compared to the US. What a low bar and cop out.
Jim o’callaghan justifying antisocial behaviour in dublin by comparing it to the US? Every time there’s a story about antisocial behaviour it’s dublin or cork. The area around Connolly is dodgy as fuck yet you hardly ever see a garda around there because we don’t see crime like the US?
“You may have data and evidence on your side, but I get really bad vibes, so”
Dublin isn’t a “very large city” – it’s a fairly small-average European capital. It just has a *highly* visible city centre hard drugs issue – I’d easily reckon it’s an outlier in Europe on that. It also has a growing a population that’s taking cocaine as casually as eating a packet of sweets – and that’s playing out as the weird, aggressive, strange behaviour that you’re seeing and that’s making the place way less fun to be in. It’s shifted from relatively good craic to having a cohort that’s just obnoxious to be around, and there’s an element with an extremely anti social thuggish attitude that’s just not being adequately responded to by policing and judiciary.
Jim is a pox. Orrible shite outta him referencing guncrime.
Young people are priced our of going out, there are fewer third spaces where you can hang out comfortably without spending money. stupid drug laws drive criminality in the city, housing policy drives homelessness and this is the outcome. More Gardas might be needed only but it isnt a solution, it is a band aid.
The truth is somewhere in the middle. I’ve lived here all my life and never had trouble in town but I was threatened to „be slashed“ by an aggressive addict after I told him to stop getting into women’s faces on the red line the other day.
The concentration of non-official addiction and homeless services on major streets like Grafton St and O’Connell St is a huge issue now. You can feel the vibe change as soon as the tables are put up and the vans arrive.
This idea of high visibility policing is a joke. We can see the police there. They just don’t do anything. They’ll literally walk by a group of pickpockets or the grey tracksuit brigade on illegal escooters and not bother them. The whole point of the police is to move these people out of the city if they’ve no business being there
The same with the security on the luas. They won’t even inspect tickets of the yup bros and racists but will hand out fines to people that have had an accidental tap in or tap out nightmare.
Maybe they could actually have some guards patrol the streets of major cities that’d be a nice to make it feel safe and would actually be safe in the main areas to go for a pint and walk home.
It’s always amazing seeing how many people on here reject actual statistics because they want to be afraid.
It’s pathetic.
It was fairly eye opening how blissfully calm O’Connell Street felt when it was flooded with guards for a few days after the riots. Gave me food for thought tbh.
> He added that a “doughnut effect” had seen the city centre emptied out of people residing in the city on a full-time basis, which he argued had deepened safety issues at night
Probably has a bit of a point here. City centre hollowed out of residents in favour of hotels for tourists.
Crime rates are only as reliable as the crimes that are actually reported and recorded in the system. Having worked and lived in the city, there is unquestionably a growing sense of unease among ordinary people going about their daily lives.
The city seems to be more neglected and untidy than before. From a criminological point of view, this is significant. Visible disorder can undermine informal social controls, fostering an environment where social boundaries start to break down, respect for communal areas diminishes, and antisocial or criminal activities become more accepted.
City Centre is a dump. Well, large parts of it. The amount of junkies is out of control with very little Garda presence. The place needs to be flooded with cops
It’s crazy how much Irish people downplay this. Yes, crime stats are decreasing. No, that doesn’t mean Dublin is safe or even pleasant to be in. Accepting open hard drug use, aggressive behaviour and constant low-level shite that never makes it to a court (hello dart carriage) is just pathetic. Just because there’s been progress in some areas, does not mean people should just ignore what everyone can see around Dublin every single day.
Well, when you adopt the American suburban sprawl style housing, and neglect to build up in the city, adopt anti social urban planning with barely any public space, or seating, or tackle drug problems, and put every drug centre and homeless centre in a city… THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.
Regardless of who this bar owner is (or where it is), I would challenge any current FFFG TD to stand on the corner of Westmoreland street for an hour and just observe their surroundings. The main street of our capital has junkies pissing on corners, openly smoking crack, buying drugs from yup bros. I watched a woman waiting for the Airport bus on Aston Quay being hassled by junkies asking for her change because she dropped a few coins that she was clearly going to use for the ticket for the bus.
Simple solution? Have the guards stationed there. 1 guard would be enough. Move them along. Dublin city centre is no place for junkies, drug dealers or yup bros to use as their romping ground
Dublin City is an absolute kip. It’s extremely depressing as a Dubliner. Drug users and hopeless kids are give full reign to poison the vibe. I live on the northside but would never go to a bar or restaurant on the northside of the city at night. Henry street during the day js just about acceptable so long as you have somewhere to go like Arnotts or Dunnes and that you have your wits about you.
Need to legalize cannibas and chill everyone out.
What’s Dublin City being compared to?
I’d rather stroll through the city than a subarb in West Dublin and I’m from there.
If it’s being compared to some town in the middle of nowhere then of course it seems rough.
It’s a bit ropey… but it’s an actual city centre.
Innur sihhy skangers been innur sihhy skangers since I was in college, and long before. Same old same old.
Drugs are te problem. Heroine has been destroying city centre communities since the 80s and cocaine is turning people into lunatics. Policing is too slack and the result is a bit of a shitshow