
Heseltine: Es ist an der Zeit, das „abscheuliche Verbrechen“ Brexit von Boris Johnson und Nigel Farage rückgängig zu machen
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-heseltine-farage-boris-johnson-uk-eu-b2994030.html
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with how the polls are going over there, i would say no thank you as eu.
We dont need a second orban to veto everything…
It’s [their](https://static.independent.co.uk/2026/06/11/11/1683696923..?quality=75&width=1368&auto=webp)
responsibility and a major crime indeed. Lock them up.
Who was boosting Brexit? Bannon, US influence operations, Russians etc.
Yep. Now the only problem is getting UK’s former EU partners to trust them again. Because who knows, these crazies might well come to power again.
And who could be better suited for that than Boris Johnson or Nigel Garage!
Not time yet, the argument still has not been won in the UK and politics is on dangerous ground with the rise of Reform and the hard right. The EU will no even consider an application if we could just turn around again and leave in a few years.
The UK needs to invest in its own people and areas. House building, jobs, healthcare, everything the right says migrants and Europe took away. Once we are on firmer ground the conversation might go better.
Didn’t they vote for this themselves?
Perhaps the general public should take some responsibility as well.
Haha it’s going to be so funny if they start the process of joining and realize they no longer have any of their exceptions from the rules any longer 😂. They’re going to get their knickers in a twist over every little thing the EU says no to.
And no one is ever going to trust them to stay so giving them good deals is not in anyone’s interest.
PREACH!
Edit- And it is criminal what they have done, & they should both be put up on charges of fking treason. The harm those two fkrs have done to my country is immeasurable.
Europe will be better without the UK problems and shit.
Very well said, I’m pleased he has called out the open lies and grift (all of which was already obvious to everyone with half a brain 10 years ago, no need to tell me). And yeah, he’s right to point out that Farage &co don’t normally shy away from spewing their vile takes into the media 24/7, so the fact they’re not claiming their „baby“ 10 years on is all you need to know.
Incredibly depressing how much of the UK public is currently falling for the same scam from the same traitor under a different party banner.
its time, the support has risen to a record 50.0000001% among the population, lets just hope aunt Rose dont change her mind and shift it back to 49.9999999%
This is the paradox….we can all see Brexit was a lie and a failure funded by Russia. it’s beyond argument. There is NO good brexit and it’s made us all 5% worse off as a nation. Nobody sensible still supports it – you either want to rejoin or believe there’s a magical brexit that will work if we give up all our human rights.
So the inevitability is rejoin…yet everyone seems to think you can’t change a vote and democracy ended a decade ago – despite the vote being older people in poorer health that have largely died out. It was originally leaver’s fault, now it’s everyone’s.
The best move it to push to rejoin ASAP and see what we can salvage from the original deal we had. Any delay is weakening our position.
Please no, I don’t want another country in the EU who will promote censorship and reduce freedoms even more with all these crazy online bans and arrests over there.
Username checks out.
Some people really have a hard time to get over it. The UK will never come back.
Time to move on
UK: We should rejoin.
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If only the EU had an Army they could invade the tiny island.
UK rejoining and having to adopt the Euro currency would be *tickety-boo!*
They broke a priceless vase.
They can’t unbreak it. All they can do now is buy a cheaper knock-off that sort of looks the same, but will never be as special.
Why you could have a American trade deal wow
Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage… And the majority of voters who voted Yes in the referendum’s „heinous crime“.
It wasn’t a thing of 2 politicians, it were millions of xenophobic british who didn’t want we europeans to freely move to their country…
Naysayers be damned. We want back in. They want us back.
It will be fine.
For Johnson we know that his confused looks and behaviour are mostly an act (he makes a point in messing up his hear when he sees a camera approaching). But for Farage I don’t know yet. Is he really an idiot? (I mean his points of view are bad enough but that does not make him an idiot) Or is he just pulling weird faces because he turned looking like an idiot into his image or something?
Forgot Cameron, his complete lack of effort to stop it from happening is a big reason for it too.
Even Labour was for Brexit back then. People forget fast. It was popular in a ton of groups and Labour was led by a progressive left-winger who saw the West as an evil. And hence EU and NATO were not the good guys.
The centrists who didn’t want it weren’t in power at all. Everyone is to blame. But mostly voters.
Yawn. Not going to happen, nothing unites the electorate more than Brexit.
[Boris Johnson](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/boris-johnson) and [Nigel Farage](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/nigel-farage) should “hang their heads in shame” for the damage they caused to Britain by leading the campaign that saw it leave the EU, [Michael Heseltine](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/michael-heseltine) has said.
The former Conservative deputy prime minister said that 10 years on from the EU referendum the “bankruptcy” of their claims that Brexit would bring huge benefits to the UK had been exposed and led voters to believe that it should be reversed.
The British public had been “lied” to in a “heinous crime”, Lord Heseltine, who served under John Major and Margaret Thatcher’s governments, writes for *The Independent* after it launched its [Europe – The Way Back ](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/europe-the-way-back)campaign.
Brexit was a “self-imposed disaster” and it is time for Britain to “reclaim our traditional role as a major European nation” and rejoin the EU.
His intervention comes after a [stark new poll reveals](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-uk-second-referendum-b2993826.html) that nearly half of the British public want a [second Brexit referendum](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit/rejoin-eu-britain-brexit-reverse-referendum-b2983605.html), including a fifth of voters from Mr Farage’s party [Reform UK.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-robert-kenyon-social-media-makerfield-byelection-b2993383.html)
The study by Ipsos, King’s College London and UK in a Changing [Europe](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/europe), found that much of the public was open to [rapprochement with the EU](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-uk-energy-bills-nick-thomas-symonds-b2992607.html), with almost half backing a closer relationship and 60 per cent wanting more cooperation on defence.
The number of people who say [Brexit](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/brexit) is going worse than they had predicted has almost doubled in the past five years, from 27 per cent in 2021 to 48 per cent today – more than those saying it was going as well as or better than expected.
Passionate pro-European Lord Heseltine said it was telling that few of those who led the Brexit campaign now claim it has been a success.
“Where are the paeans of praise to Brexit from Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Nigel Farage, Dominic Cummings and their accomplices for the land of milk and honey they told us it would deliver?” he writes.
“Never have so few done so much damage to so many with so little ability to execute what they lied about.
“They don’t normally hold back from giving their opinions. The reason is obvious I would suggest: their scandalously false prospectus has turned to dust and ashes. They are the guilty men and should hang their heads in shame.”
Lord Heseltine accuses prominent Brexiteers such as Mr Johnson and Mr Farage of “walking away from their heinous political crime”. Instead they offered “feeble excuses as to why all their bold promises of more jobs, more trade, more power for Britain have all proved to be a con”.
“Naturally they blame everyone but themselves. At the time of the 2016 referendum Brexit campaign leaders had dismissed warnings that it would make Britain worse off, calling such claims ‘Project Fear’,” said Lord Heseltine.
He continued: “But those warnings turned out to be true. Now ‘Project Fear’ has become ‘Project Here’.
“Promises that cutting ties with Brussels would make the UK better off had come to nothing,” he argues.
“Years later public opinion has come to realise the bankruptcy of those claims. The mood has changed and reflects a majority in favour of rejoining. The present government is making hesitant approaches to move in that direction but the fear of the extreme right is acting like a ball and chain on our political classes.
“We should reclaim our traditional role as a major European nation. We should do so in the interests of growing generations of our young people. We should do it in our interests as a nation state with limited resources. As a European partner we can compete with the world’s largest economies.
“Brexit was a self-imposed disaster for this country. It erected barriers between our manufacturing and service industries and our largest market. In a range of cultural, artistic, environmental and academic policies. It left our diplomats waiting in the corridors to learn what decisions were being taken with profound consequences for us.”
I don’t care about Brexit but I do care about the mass migration Boris caused.
The problems were there long before the referendum. Media, both left and right wing hating the EU during the Greek financial crisis and refugee crisis that followed in its footsteps. To a class of politicians who made lying just a habit and a populace that was perfectly fine as long as the lies were entertaining.
Many voters were dreaming of an ‚anglosphere‘ dominating the world, the EU collapsing while the former EU nations would trip over each other to give the UK everything it wants and more.
We need to get rid of Reform and their cronies before we can even hope to rejoin the EU. Those MFers don’t care that the UK is worse off as long as the „foreigners“ are suffering even more.
Then there’s the whole trans thing, and the fact that the UK has fallen to what 23rd place in Europe for queer safety thanks to more than a decade of regressive politics on all sides?
If I were the EU, I wouldn’t want the UK back. Maybe Scotland and NI, but definitely not England. Wales is a bit iffy too.
I can’t see a true rejoin happening.
EU’s work at creating a EU partner tier member for the likes of Canada / Turkiye might be their way to getting close again.
EU letting GB join with exemptions unique to them I can’t see happening and I can’t see GB giving up the £ or adapting their agricultural laws and shipping? I can’t remember the exact exemptions they had.
That said. I would bloody love GB to be in EU again. Mostly for friends living there but it just feels like the GB I grew up with belongs at the table next to Germany, France, Spain, Italy and the rest. I grew up in the years of creation and still remember the vision of a dual citizen, a citizen both a European and of a nationality, the idea of a unified Europe creating a new generation that saw themselves as a European just as much as *insert nation*.
Most of us don’t want them back. we’ve seen what you are doing to your own country, and we don’t need that back in the EU.
Right wing idiocracy/populism is still here, and I don’t think it’s a good idea to start the rejoin process when it’s like „58% support rejoining“ or a slim margin like that. It’s just going to cause more political flareups and headaches.
Another obvious issue: Reform is currently leading in the polls, which is an completely untenable position to start the rejoin process.
The EU would insist the UK adopt the euro and the rebate wouldn’t be offered again.
Non-starter.
Actually I don’t think now is the time
We need to understand the failings in our society and education that have lead to farage first
no thanks. 🙂
I voted against brexit but it seems too early to be doing this when Reform are leading the polls. If we rejoined only for reform to win the next election and take us out again, I’m pretty sure we’d be out permanently
Why? because the EU is doing so much better? Its not
As a Belgian I wouldn’t mind if the Brits would rejoin the EU. They can even keep the pound for all I care. I just want to travel to the UK without the effing hassle.
No thanks. We don’t want a special butterfly who wants all the advantages of being in Europe without any of the contributions and drawbacks.
There is no „reversing“ it, you’ll get a new membership with new conditions.
It’s not so simple, if the euro is required then any PM who even proposed the idea would be out of the office within the hour and that’s just one issue on the Uk side not even getting into the EU one.
Europe: Pass
The image of Farage is just amazing.