Der kanadische Premierminister Mark Carney sagt: „Eine neue Weltordnung wird beginnend mit Europa aufgebaut.“

>“In a world of great power rivalry, middle powers have a choice — to compete for favor or to combine to create a third path with impact,” Carney said at Trinity College in Dublin.
He made similar [comments at the World Economic Forum](https://apnews.com/article/carney-trump-canada-trade-davos-bessent-tariffs-8e83cdd9443f6f4a523b6e05fd63843a) in Davos, Switzerland, which became a symbol of middle-power resistance in January, when he [declared the global rules-based order over](https://apnews.com/article/carney-canada-davos-trump-eee151f749f35c8b30a9ff4a9525d0be) and condemned coercion by great powers on smaller countries.

The guy will say pretty much anything depending on which audience he happens to be in front of at the moment. He literally said ‚Canada Strong will help make America great again‘ a couple weeks ago in a New York speech.

A new world order started by a continent that is chronically unproductive, dismantled their nuclear power through eco-zealotry and destabilized their politics through unhinged levels of immigration. Sounds like a good match for Canada 👍

Can we stop using the term New world Order. This is the term that conspiracy theorists rally around.

Europe is using Canada only to have access the USA…

Straight from the EUCCAN (sponsored by the EU) website

[CETA & CUSMA Guide](https://www.euccan.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/CETA-CUSMA-Guide.pdf)

„In the absence of an EU-USA Free Trade Agreement, European companies can first establish and develop in the Canadian market by taking advantage of the CETA FTA. Then as a second step, they can approach the US market from Canada, using a combination of the advantages provided by the CUSMA FTA and the proximity of the market“

„As we know, nearly all E.U. products that meet CETA’s Rules of Origin enter Canada free of duties. Serving the USA from a Canadian-based distribution center is easy, efficient and cost-effective, thanks to the proximity and the existing huge flows of products, since the US market receives 75% of total Canadian exports.“

Canadians quality of life (and life expectancy) is (relatively) high, but we’re not doing as well as many European countries in that regard (ie ALL the Nordic European nations, + Monaco, etc…England and France etc are struggling somewhat.) So I get why Carney wants to deepen connections with Europe. I dont even want to bother comparing to the U.S. right now, because the U.S. is, and has been, crumbling for at least a decade or so, and that’s not really fair.

People who freak out every time Mark Carney uses the term “new world order” are missing what he is actually saying.

He is not talking about some Orwellian one-world government. He is talking about the international order that has existed since the end of the Second World War, especially in the Western world, where the United States has largely been at the centre of things alongside countries like Britain, Canada, and other allies.

For roughly 80 years, Canada has operated in a world where we could usually assume that the United States would be a stable democratic ally, a reliable trading partner, and a predictable leader within the Western alliance. That does not mean the U.S. was perfect, and it does not mean Canada always agreed with it, but there was a basic structure to how the world worked.

What Carney is saying is that this structure is changing. When Donald Trump acts the way he does, threatens allies, undermines institutions, questions trade agreements, and treats long-standing partners as disposable, Canada has to think differently. We cannot simply assume that the old order will protect us or that the U.S. will always behave in a way that serves the broader interests of its allies.

That has very real consequences. It affects trade. It affects defence. It affects energy. It affects supply chains. It affects how Canada positions itself with Europe, Britain, Asia, and other democracies. It affects whether we are prepared to stand on our own feet when our closest neighbour becomes less predictable.

I say this as a fairly conservative person. I did not vote Conservative this time. I did not vote Liberal. I did not vote NDP. I spoiled my ballot because I did not like my local options, and I was not sold on either Pierre Poilievre or Mark Carney.

But Carney is the Prime Minister now. I want him to do well because I want Canada to do well.

So when I see people attack him over the phrase “new world order,” I shake my head a bit. You do not have to like Carney to understand what he is talking about. You just need a basic understanding of both the history behind the term and the very current ramifications of the world we are living in now.

And honestly, I think that is the bigger problem. A lot of people are reacting to a phrase instead of understanding the history, the context, or the stakes.

When EU enlarged year 2004, it become larger economy than US, today US has GDP of 32 Trillion vs 23 Trillion of EU. US growth rate is also higher, so gap is widening.

One could argue that Europe has and is part of the current „world order“ and you just have to look back in history to see how many wars that produced ( two world wars) and colonization of much of the world.
And now Carney believes some sort of „New world order“ will begin with Europe?
What is the new World order?

Europe as a whole is clearly on a downward trajectory. They aren’t the new world order.

As if Carney or anyone else in politics today is competent enough to establish **a New World Order.**

That’s like saying you’re going to Make America great again and expecting us to believe it.

Look at the state of Europe, we shouldn’t be taking any advice or policies from them. Europes immigration policies is completely unacceptable.

Yeah no, Europe is screwed, any new world paradigm will be led by East Asia, even if we ignore China, Korea is punching way beyond its weight class and Japan despite all the disasters is actually doing quite well in other ways. Indonesia is expanding and Vietnam is following China along the development path.

Hell if we just look at tech development, China is ploughing along, yes they are behind in some place but they find other paths to get ahead and skip the obstruction. Example EV cars and skipped the ICE drama. And now while they are blocked by lack of EUV tech which they are trying to figure out, they just started testing out logic folding which is chips designed in a 3D space. Right now everyone equipment is designed for 2D but if China goes all in on 3D design they will have equipment to buy pass the roadblock the US has implemented and be making chip fabrication that can do 3D designs and see significant performance boost and catch them up to everyone else. China rise is also weirdly having an osmosis effect in the rest of Asia as Japan and Korea are able to ride along their growth. 

Europe is floundering and is stuck in bureaucratic hell run by neoliberal bankers and politicians trying to maintain the status quo and elites wealth at the expense of allowing a true eocnomic and technological revolution to save their economies. Carney is also very susceptible to falling into this group as he surrounds himself with think tanks and experts who have led Canada and the west doom as they focused more on numbers on a screen than the actual reality happening on the ground.

Whether Europeans want it or not.😠