How does the Malta economy work? Don’t compare Apples to Oranges
HeartsOfNetherite4 on
ok, lets assume for a moment that there are barely any foreigners in malta, malta has a population cap of 500k, and like 95% of malta’s population are maltese born to at least 1 maltese parent. the 500k population cap is reached. What would happen to that specific 500,001st baby? Is the mother forced to abort it? are the parents forced to relocate to another country? Is an exception made because the baby is born to maltese parents?
I genuinely want to know your solutions to this example.
SummerOftime on
Our economic model solely depends on population growth.
More people = more flats = higher GDP.
No population growth = flats being build will remain empty = some will go bankrupt as they had to go into debt to build = recession
You reap what you sow
Boring_Big2225 on
Don’t be negative!!
Obvious-Desk4573 on
In all seriousness, what will this vote actually do if it succeeds? Will they deport newborns born after the 10 million limit?
This also requires the census to be *absolutely perfect* in its count which is for practical reasons impossible, and also assumes there will never be any illegal immigrants.
LordAmras on
And by serious country you mean a bunch of idiots?
Fluffy_Cupcakez on
The irony in your post knows no bounds. You truly confirm how clueless you are. And you had the gall to attack me a number of times when it comes to politics and the very valid theory of legitimation.
It’s not merely a case of „serious country“, and Switzerland is not merely a representative democracy.
That’s why things like this can happen. And this is not a proposed bill in Parliament, but a public initiative.
>Switzerland’s system of direct democracy means all major decisions are taken via the ballot box. Campaigners simply have to gather 100,000 signatures to ensure a nationwide vote.
And the vote has to happen first, before talking about how „serious countries“ tackle stuff.
If we had a better form of democracy, then perhaps those almost HALF of the population could finally gather enough signatures and start initiatives on which they would vote directly.
But alas we have people like you, who continue „lecturing“ people like me and doing the devil’s work by urging everyone to legitimize our incredibly flawed representative system (which keeps showing how flawed it is even after the election, as the „corrective mechanisms“ have recently shown).
And this when everyone knows that voting for the third parties won’t do anything, for a plethora of reasons, starting from funding (PL at more than a million; Momentum at a couple of thousands) to reach; from pre-electoral shenanigans to post-electoral mechanisms, from limited true and fair public say during the elections, to even less post-election.
And then somehow you want to criticize the country precisely by comparing with another which actually has a much fairer system in place.
I’m sure you’ll retort with some inane argument as you have done so far, while clearly not understanding the very basic political concepts at work.
corenovax on
If you think that a population cap is actually enforceable, just look at how immigration doesn’t decrease when anti-immigration parties get to power in Italy, UK, Poland, etc…
FlakyAssociation4986 on
But even if we had 0 immigration malta has always been very densely populated
mewt6 on
I also think that we should cap the population of Malta to 10 million
Outrageous-Ad-371 on
Agree Malta has a real population and housing problem we are clowns for basing our economy in increasing it. But comparing national density to Malta is meaningless. Malta is effectively a city-state, so it should be benchmarked against cities like Barcelona, Amsterdam or Singapore, not whole countries.
Odd-History-One on
Look at population density if Zurich, you cant compare a whole country to essentially a city state
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How does the Malta economy work? Don’t compare Apples to Oranges
ok, lets assume for a moment that there are barely any foreigners in malta, malta has a population cap of 500k, and like 95% of malta’s population are maltese born to at least 1 maltese parent. the 500k population cap is reached. What would happen to that specific 500,001st baby? Is the mother forced to abort it? are the parents forced to relocate to another country? Is an exception made because the baby is born to maltese parents?
I genuinely want to know your solutions to this example.
Our economic model solely depends on population growth.
More people = more flats = higher GDP.
No population growth = flats being build will remain empty = some will go bankrupt as they had to go into debt to build = recession
You reap what you sow
Don’t be negative!!
In all seriousness, what will this vote actually do if it succeeds? Will they deport newborns born after the 10 million limit?
This also requires the census to be *absolutely perfect* in its count which is for practical reasons impossible, and also assumes there will never be any illegal immigrants.
And by serious country you mean a bunch of idiots?
The irony in your post knows no bounds. You truly confirm how clueless you are. And you had the gall to attack me a number of times when it comes to politics and the very valid theory of legitimation.
It’s not merely a case of „serious country“, and Switzerland is not merely a representative democracy.
That’s why things like this can happen. And this is not a proposed bill in Parliament, but a public initiative.
>Switzerland’s system of direct democracy means all major decisions are taken via the ballot box. Campaigners simply have to gather 100,000 signatures to ensure a nationwide vote.
And the vote has to happen first, before talking about how „serious countries“ tackle stuff.
If we had a better form of democracy, then perhaps those almost HALF of the population could finally gather enough signatures and start initiatives on which they would vote directly.
But alas we have people like you, who continue „lecturing“ people like me and doing the devil’s work by urging everyone to legitimize our incredibly flawed representative system (which keeps showing how flawed it is even after the election, as the „corrective mechanisms“ have recently shown).
And this when everyone knows that voting for the third parties won’t do anything, for a plethora of reasons, starting from funding (PL at more than a million; Momentum at a couple of thousands) to reach; from pre-electoral shenanigans to post-electoral mechanisms, from limited true and fair public say during the elections, to even less post-election.
And then somehow you want to criticize the country precisely by comparing with another which actually has a much fairer system in place.
I’m sure you’ll retort with some inane argument as you have done so far, while clearly not understanding the very basic political concepts at work.
If you think that a population cap is actually enforceable, just look at how immigration doesn’t decrease when anti-immigration parties get to power in Italy, UK, Poland, etc…
But even if we had 0 immigration malta has always been very densely populated
I also think that we should cap the population of Malta to 10 million
Agree Malta has a real population and housing problem we are clowns for basing our economy in increasing it. But comparing national density to Malta is meaningless. Malta is effectively a city-state, so it should be benchmarked against cities like Barcelona, Amsterdam or Singapore, not whole countries.
Look at population density if Zurich, you cant compare a whole country to essentially a city state
And the serious country rejected the proposal.
https://timesofmalta.com/article/swiss-vote-divisive-antiimmigration-proposal.1129916
only 1700? looks like tourists are not counted
And they voted against it. Yes, we need tu do something about over population, but this isn’t the way