Abstimmungen live – 55 Prozent: «Keine 10-Mio-Schweiz» gemäss Hochrechnung abgelehnt – News

Switzerland voters smarter than British it seems. Though if government wants such initiatives to be put in the bin forever, they need to fix the rent and home market, and expand Inländervorrang to every sector.

It‘s down to 52.6% No right now.

55% No is not exactly a comfortable closed case result. It means we rejected this specific hard cap, but a very large part of the country is clearly unhappy with the current growth model.

While the opponents might think (estimated) 55% No is a „clear“ win for them, i just hope the politicians and opponents will now wake up and focus on fixing all the problems – and i specifically do NOT mean immigration/racism that a lot of opponents (IMHO erroneously) saw as the „only reason“ why one would be for the initiative – that caused currently estimated 45% of the population to vote Yes on this initiative.

Otherwise, as we have seen in the past, the population might at some point accept one or more of the SVP initiatives that are (or will be) already in the pipeline for the future.

Racists : out ! now cry

I am absolutely anti migration and voted no.

The only reason this initiative got rejected is because its so simple dumb. No refugee cares about the initiative and just crosses the border.

Without working together with EU in trade and safety and canceling the bilateral contracts is just stone age mindset.

We would have more migrants we dont want, not the migrants we need, broken economy, less safety controls, just old people.

Canceling bilateral contracts with EU automatically without an alternative is EXTREME.

I dont get why SVP isnt able to do an initiative that could also be extreme but would have a real effect. For example:

Not accepting any Third State migrant anymore except US, Australia etc. So like Nachhaltigkeitsinitiative but for everyone outside Europe. (I guess this one would be accepted)

Not accepting Refugees anymore

No naturalization anymore

I know these are extreme but not more extreme than canceling every contract with the EU

exactly, but the bigger issue is that we do need foreigners to work in jobs, so the problem to vote yes for me was always, ok, but why not also propose other solutions like millions if not billions of chf for more education to lessen the reliance on foreign workers?

I like what Wasserfallen (SP-SRtin) said: “…nun könne man zur Lösungssuche übergehen. Man müsse etwa die Auslands-Abhängigkeit reduzieren, in Bildung investieren um etwa mehr Schweizer Ärztinnen und Ärzte sowie Pflegende auszubilden.”

55% no. Exactly as I predicted: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/KQ3Tmnohc4 and https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/STkaGlqaE2

What do we learn from this? As soon as the left and the moderate right get together and have a coordinated and well structured campaign strategy against SVP/UDC, the left + moderate right usually wins.

Back in the days, SVP/UDC only won due to poor managing and a confusing, sometimes contradictory argumentation from the other side. The anti-SVP/UDC alliance has learned from their mistakes and since 2014, they have only lost one vote to the SVP/UDC that is vaguely related to migration. Since 2014, the anti-SVP/UDC alliance has regularly mopped the floor with the SVP/UDC on their ideological „home turf“ and today, they have won again. Winning by 10% difference by the way is not a close result. It’s a very clear victory.

By design. So SVP can complain about everything and say „if only the 10 million initiative would’ve passed, we would not have problem X. It’s A/B/C’s fault“.

May the Ponzi scheme continue 🙏 

Thank god.

I’m surprised by the results in Ticino, with only 50.66% of YES. In 2014 it voted yes to immigration controls with 65% I think.

Lets make this country a shithole yeah !