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    Polen und Deutschland streiten um EU-Mittel in Höhe von 6,6 Milliarden Euro für die Ukraine

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    2. Particular-Cow6247 on

      tldr: fund to compensate member states that supplied ukraine isnt big enough to pay out everyone in full, poland wants to be compensated completely, EU foreign policy chief wants to compensate proportionally and germany wants to allocate the funds to ukraine

    3. vast-pear-crayfish on

      i fucking hate these people, do we need to undergo an apocalyptic event to get our shit together? these people would sell their own grandma, especially these fucks in the polish government who have been getting subsidised for years and are swimming in foreign money

    4. readilyunavailable on

      Kallas‘ suggestions seems reasonable to me. 10% of the costs for each member state that helped and give the rest to Ukraine. Better to pay in money now, than with blood later.

    5. Fehervari on

      The Polish position is understandable even if a bit unreasonable. There’s not enough money to go around. Member states should be reimbursed proportionally from the available money.

      Then, if any member state deems it necessary, they can still reallocate the reimbursed money to Ukraine’s aid (with whatever conditions they want to attach).

    6. NatiFluffy on

      Poland has one of the biggest public debt (correction budget deficit) in EU so it shouldn’t be surprising

    7. Designer_Status2214 on

      Ukraine is not even in EU.
      Why EU citizens pay for war in UKRAINE? I mean they should invest that tax money in EU Development as EU is already so behind USA & Canada 

    8. Nano_needle on

      I know it might be hard to comprehend for average r/europe user but Poland have loans to pay off and situation in Ukraine isn’t terrible so I don’t see the reason why we should be scammed out of these funds.

    11. Orange-skittles on

      I can kinda see Polands side I mean they where promised full reimbursement so getting only 10% would make anyone upset. But then again I’m not sure now is the time or place for that conversation.

    12. wouek on

      Apparently the deal is not fair for countries that gave hardware first. I’d wait for more than just leaked news before you start shitting on member states that helped without hesitation, because they might hesitate next time.

      **Edit (real context and tldr):**
      The Polish MOD mentions **the COUNCIL DECISION (CFSP) 2022/338 of 28 February 2022**
      **on an assistance measure under the European Peace Facility for the supply to the Ukrainian Armed Forces of military equipment, and platforms, designed to deliver lethal force**

      It was adopted for 24 months, effective backwards from 1st January 2022. The main goal was to encourage hesitant countries to provide hardware to Ukraine ASAP. Hungary was blocking the payout until Orban left and now Germany and Scandinavians don’t want to stick to what was agreed and signed by Scholtz and other heads of states (the council).

      That’s why Polish MOD says DE is changing the rules after they were agreed. (4 years later)

    13. Chemical-Wallaby-823 on

      Idk, why people are so mad. Everyone in the EU tries to make money / get money. Poles suppose to get 100% from this deal, and now they got information about 10%

      So they want to negotiate to get more. This is how EU works.

      It is also not only Leo 2 but other equipment as well.

    14. SabaRoundScape on

      I understand why sending it to Ukraine is a good idea.

      But I really feel like an idiot for all those years when arguing with right wingers that it doesn’t matter how much is the equipment worth since EU will reimburse us.

      I wish EU didn’t promise things it can’t deliver.
      Now I will have to live in a info sphere where Ukrainian President names Bandera a Hero and where EU reneges on reimbursement under some ZE GERMAN direct control to send it to the Banderist government.

    15. Qhored on

      „donated“ something – excepts someone else to compensate that – still playing a hero image of great ally – shaming others for not helping enough.
      Took tons of refugees – money from their taxation are surpassed money they spent to support them (on late 2022).

      I can’t comprehend what level of greed and hypocrisy.

    16. tasdenan on

      I don’t understand why we would expect reimbursement. It was aid we provided, an investment in our security at the same time. I think Germany’s stance is right on this one.

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