What interests me here is not only the loss of a specific model, but the geopolitical dependency behind it.
European users and companies can pay for a US cloud service, use it legally and follow all its conditions, but still lose access because of a decision made by the US government.
As AI tools become part of professional infrastructure, Europe depends not only on foreign providers, but also on the political and security decisions of the countries where those providers are based.
Do you see this as an exceptional case, or as another argument for greater European autonomy in AI and cloud infrastructure?
dual__88 on
So it’s that expensive to tun and they cut access to it, got it.
ImJiggie on
One more reason for Europe to speed up efforts for increased strategic autonomy.
Once companies and governments have switched suppliers, they won’t come back.
Europe spends 100’s of billions for high speed train connections, we surely should invest significantly in this autonomy.
BlackSuitHardHand on
Best pre-IPO marketing ever.
PlutosGrasp on
This is entirely punishment because Anthropic wouldn’t play ball with the pentagon.
ebookfrance on
Some thoughts:
* there goes the AI bubble and Anthropics IPO (hours after Elon got his trillions) bloodbath on markets come Monday
* Anthropic gonna have to bribe Trump now as this looks like a shakedown
* OpenAI et all are also fucked as having a good model is now a bad thing
* It gives EU companies a path to outcompete the US
* Anthropic marketing was too good, and they now will get their wish but with themselves being throttled now, possible payback by us gov for not working with them on terminator ai
* how the hell would companies enforce that only Americans use their models? Sown sort of digital id? Yeh that go down well in US
loulan on
So I literally registered to Claude yesterday to have access to it and they disabled it today… Such a fucking scam.
EDIT: Actually I asked for a refund through their chatbot and it was granted automatically.
anxiousvater on
Many companies disabled Claude models after MS switched to usage billing. This was not that popular anyways as many didn’t even use it even once. Claude models are ridiculously expensive & quotas expire in a day or two.
_Spare_15_ on
Mind you, Apple is currently throwing a fit in response to the EU not allowing their iPhone IA to have a full unrestricted access to personal data in European’s devices.
khassius on
Other models are still available and plenty good so no biggies
drgaz on
Oof I am not looking forward to the meetings next week.
CaptchaSolvingRobot on
I used it before it was banned, it seemed slightly better than before, but it is also a token incinerator.
morty_morty on
Europe needs to get their own AI development off the ground. Or find incentive to lure companies like Anthropic here. Its not going anywhere and refusing to develop it risks being locked out of tools in the future. The US cannot be allowed or be trusted to have a monopoly on this tech.
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What interests me here is not only the loss of a specific model, but the geopolitical dependency behind it.
European users and companies can pay for a US cloud service, use it legally and follow all its conditions, but still lose access because of a decision made by the US government.
As AI tools become part of professional infrastructure, Europe depends not only on foreign providers, but also on the political and security decisions of the countries where those providers are based.
Do you see this as an exceptional case, or as another argument for greater European autonomy in AI and cloud infrastructure?
So it’s that expensive to tun and they cut access to it, got it.
One more reason for Europe to speed up efforts for increased strategic autonomy.
Once companies and governments have switched suppliers, they won’t come back.
Europe spends 100’s of billions for high speed train connections, we surely should invest significantly in this autonomy.
Best pre-IPO marketing ever.
This is entirely punishment because Anthropic wouldn’t play ball with the pentagon.
Some thoughts:
* there goes the AI bubble and Anthropics IPO (hours after Elon got his trillions) bloodbath on markets come Monday
* Anthropic gonna have to bribe Trump now as this looks like a shakedown
* OpenAI et all are also fucked as having a good model is now a bad thing
* It gives EU companies a path to outcompete the US
* Anthropic marketing was too good, and they now will get their wish but with themselves being throttled now, possible payback by us gov for not working with them on terminator ai
* how the hell would companies enforce that only Americans use their models? Sown sort of digital id? Yeh that go down well in US
So I literally registered to Claude yesterday to have access to it and they disabled it today… Such a fucking scam.
EDIT: Actually I asked for a refund through their chatbot and it was granted automatically.
Many companies disabled Claude models after MS switched to usage billing. This was not that popular anyways as many didn’t even use it even once. Claude models are ridiculously expensive & quotas expire in a day or two.
Mind you, Apple is currently throwing a fit in response to the EU not allowing their iPhone IA to have a full unrestricted access to personal data in European’s devices.
Other models are still available and plenty good so no biggies
Oof I am not looking forward to the meetings next week.
I used it before it was banned, it seemed slightly better than before, but it is also a token incinerator.
Europe needs to get their own AI development off the ground. Or find incentive to lure companies like Anthropic here. Its not going anywhere and refusing to develop it risks being locked out of tools in the future. The US cannot be allowed or be trusted to have a monopoly on this tech.