I mean, they’re also working on indirectly banning VPNs.
OptiPath on
There will always be workarounds to a social media ban, but it is still better to have measures in place than to do nothing IMO.
Angry_beaver_1867 on
Introducing Friction is a good thing. Social media only really works because all your friends are on it.
If you can move adoption from 90% to say 50% you can change a lot of friend group dynamics
I digresss
BabaofTheShimmer on
I just want to know if part of the ban will include adults removing images of children under 16 years old from their social media.
Because I don’t think a 14 year old is going to understand why they can’t use social media but their parents still get to post the child’s likeness on their own social media.
“Here my child, let me take a photo of you smiling over my Sunday roast so I can post it on my IG; I will splatter your digit image everywhere; but you better not go on IG yourself”.
Infamous-Ad-770 on
They can also get cigarettes and alcohol, but as a society, we have to make a point to affirm that social media is basically poison for kids and that’s how you do it
Ok-Yogurt-42 on
To be effective it doesn’t need to get all kids. If most of your friends don’t have a social media account it’s less appealing.
Bananasaur_ on
This ban is so ridiculous and unenforceable. This country can’t even get a handle on preventing violent crime on the streets. The attempt at gun control was so littered with loopholes it still resulted in a school shooting. How are they planning to punish kids going on social media?
OrdinaryCan2176 on
Yeah, damn them for trying. Brilliant thinking folks. Let’s just let the world go to shyte and do nothing about it. Cool bro. 😎
Or we applaud them for trying, but I guess it’s still edgy to pretend not to care about the world.
EmbarrassedHelp on
Such a ban means mandatory age verification for everyone, including every Canadian adult.
Protecting kids should not come at the cost of violating user privacy.
Mandatory age verification is unacceptable as there is no such thing as privacy protecting or anonymous age verification. Canadians deserve more privacy online, not less.
—
Please take the time to demand that the the federal government removes all requirements for mandatory age verification and age assurance from C-34, by messaging following Liberal Ministers in addition to your own MP:
* Marc Miller (Heritage Minister, the minister responsible for bill C-34): Marc.Miller@parl.gc.ca
I have made a new email template for fighting back against Bill C-34. I will be improving it as we learn more about the legislation from legal experts, and you are encouraged to modify it to your liking:
> Subject: Protect Canadians‘ Privacy: Oppose Bill C-34’s Mandatory Age Verification Requirements
> Dear [Prime Minister/Minister/MP Name],
> I am writing to urge you to reject the mandatory age verification and age assurance requirements in Bill C-34, the Safe Social Media Act, which would impose these measures across social media platforms, AI chatbot services, and adult content websites, including requirements previously proposed under Senator Julie Miville-Dechêne’s Bill S-209.
> Mandatory age verification and age assurance as a condition of accessing lawful online content is an unacceptable threat to Canadians‘ privacy when accessing social media platforms, artificial intelligence systems, and adult content websites. Requiring individuals to verify their age to access lawful online content creates new opportunities for data breaches, surveillance, and misuse of sensitive personal information. In the case of sensitive or stigmatized personal information like adult content, data breaches can cause permanent and irreparable harm. These requirements create records and metadata that link a person’s offline identity to their online activity. They also disproportionately target marginalized groups, such as the LGBTQ community. Once this infrastructure exists, its scope consistently expands beyond its stated purpose as seen in other countries.
> There is no such thing as private or anonymous age verification. Canadians deserve more privacy online, not less.
> Protecting kids should not come at the cost of violating the privacy of all Canadians. I urge you to focus on better parental controls for parents, restrictions on K-12 school WiFi, and targeting services marketed as explicitly for kids. This would be in line with the recent Angus Reid survey on social media age bans, where 72% of Canadians said parents, and not the government, should be the ones enforcing the bans. Most Canadian parents already take measures to restrict their kids‘ technology and internet use. We should be supporting parents with better parental controls, instead of trying to force companies to violate Canadians‘ privacy.
> Sincerely,
> [Your Name]
> [Optional Postal Code]
> [City], [Province]
Note: When emailing Conservative MPs, consider removing the reference to the LGBTQ community in the second paragraph.
KorgothBarbaria on
Here we go to the surveillance state, all for „protecting kids“ because parents are too dumb to use parental controls.
shrek-is-real on
So that makes it most kids. No parent is going to pay for a VPN just so their kids can use social media. The friction of always being on vpn alone will eliminate majority of them which will snowball into even vpn users not using it as their friends aren’t on there.
icyki on
Where do they draw the line? Is discord a social media(probably)? How about roblox? What about steam? Every platform is trying to be a social media, look at Spotify.
Is there a way to protect kids without taking away everyone’s privacy?
classic Beaverton tho
hq78 on
So what’s social media? What’s the definition of social media that this government is using?
NuclearHateLizard on
Its insane how quickly we went from a free and open internet to this fucking holocaust era of blatant privacy issues and overreach. For fuck sake, run the country and stay in your lane
ITehJelleh on
While I like satire this post kind of trivializes and in a way normalizes this controversial bill . . After seeing this pass in the UK and AU has the overton window really shifted to this here too?
Bob_Lelys on
They don’t care for children. That’s more than obvious. This bill is a huge Trojan horse to have so the government can have control over the users by making the having to provide ID to “prove” they are adults. Bye bye internet anonymity. No more whistleblowers, not more people saying what the government doesn’t like. It’s so simple.
Loading_Error_900 on
This is very poorly thought out. This isn’t going to only affect kids, adults are going to be required to prove they are adults to use any of these non-defined sites as well. But there’s currently no method of doing so safely. Third party companies keep getting hacked for the information. This is going to open way more people up to being scammed because they won’t know the difference between safe sites and non safe sites. If your health care number is on your ID, that’s now vulnerable too. It also removes all anonymity online. Again, very poorly thought out.
Elmosuperfan on
Reminder they don’t care about the kids. It’s about everyone linking their social to an ID so they can debank or throw you in jail if you say something against them.
mcburgs on
This will be the same general idea as piracy.
They block one avenue, four more appear.
I’m old enough to remember Hulk Hogan slamming Andre.
I will never, ever submit legitimate ID to use social media. I also expect I will be using social media for years to come. There’s always a way around.
For the record, I’m not at all opposed to restricting children from social media.
I’m very, very opposed to submitting my own ID to these companies. Wll never ever happen.
JohnAMcdonald on
It’s a joke but it’s not.
vanwhisky on
Beaverton click bait
TepHoBubba on
Who’s paying for that VPN, or allowing their kids to install it? Any half engaged parent would be able to manage it.
fear_nothin on
This made me laugh out loud cause my father is older and has thought my use of a VPN for years was some kind of NSA hacking program equilvant.
I initially just got it so I could watch SNL clips online.
I could see why Boomers think some age verification will stop kids. I mean, I haven’t lied to pornhub or steam for years before I was 18.
Immediate_Buffalo14 on
They don’t even need VPNs. They just need to register with a phony birthdate when they sign up for an account.
Ok_Manufacturer_5323 on
All these politicians seem determined to make me hate them. Say what you will about Ford being corrupt, I’ll take a corrupt populist over this digital ID shitfuckery any day
Boblawblahhs on
I don’t think people realize that a lot of kids ARE that dumb.
lifeiswutumakeit on
Just lmao. Government working on useless shits
metallicadefender on
Im for it and yet I think we need to adopt to new media.
Im more for parental controls on FB and Twitter.
adamast0r on
Don’t you have to pay for VPNs? How many kids are actually using these services? With what money?
BrightPerspective on
Good enough for me
CalamitousCanadian on
Did nobody notice it’s the Beaverton?
Like the Canadian onion. Satire
Still cbc reported that bill c-34 is in the works regarding this kind of stuff.
But please don’t just read headlines. Or a single article before forming an opinion
WhydYouKillMeDogJack on
I mean, I know it’s supposed to be satire, but wouldn’t stopping our dumbest people accessing misinformation complete the assignment?
Yuushalinsky on
Most kids couldn’t figure out vpns tbh
spinur1848 on
The very best Beaverton headlines are the ones that are literally true.
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I mean, they’re also working on indirectly banning VPNs.
There will always be workarounds to a social media ban, but it is still better to have measures in place than to do nothing IMO.
Introducing Friction is a good thing. Social media only really works because all your friends are on it.
If you can move adoption from 90% to say 50% you can change a lot of friend group dynamics
I digresss
I just want to know if part of the ban will include adults removing images of children under 16 years old from their social media.
Because I don’t think a 14 year old is going to understand why they can’t use social media but their parents still get to post the child’s likeness on their own social media.
“Here my child, let me take a photo of you smiling over my Sunday roast so I can post it on my IG; I will splatter your digit image everywhere; but you better not go on IG yourself”.
They can also get cigarettes and alcohol, but as a society, we have to make a point to affirm that social media is basically poison for kids and that’s how you do it
To be effective it doesn’t need to get all kids. If most of your friends don’t have a social media account it’s less appealing.
This ban is so ridiculous and unenforceable. This country can’t even get a handle on preventing violent crime on the streets. The attempt at gun control was so littered with loopholes it still resulted in a school shooting. How are they planning to punish kids going on social media?
Yeah, damn them for trying. Brilliant thinking folks. Let’s just let the world go to shyte and do nothing about it. Cool bro. 😎
Or we applaud them for trying, but I guess it’s still edgy to pretend not to care about the world.
Such a ban means mandatory age verification for everyone, including every Canadian adult.
Protecting kids should not come at the cost of violating user privacy.
Mandatory age verification is unacceptable as there is no such thing as privacy protecting or anonymous age verification. Canadians deserve more privacy online, not less.
—
Please take the time to demand that the the federal government removes all requirements for mandatory age verification and age assurance from C-34, by messaging following Liberal Ministers in addition to your own MP:
* Marc Miller (Heritage Minister, the minister responsible for bill C-34): Marc.Miller@parl.gc.ca
* Mark Carney (Prime Minister): mark.carney@parl.gc.ca
* Sean Fraser (Justice Minister): sean.fraser@parl.gc.ca
* Evan Solomon (Minister of Digital Innovation): evan.solomon@parl.gc.ca
* You can find the contact info for other MPs here: https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en
The other Federal parties are also seeking input before deciding on whether to support this legislation, so you should message them as well:
* Pierre Poilievre (CPC Leader): pierre.poilievre@parl.gc.ca
* Heather McPherson (NDP Leader in Parliament): Heather.McPherson@parl.gc.ca
* Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc Leader): Yves-Francois.Blanchet@parl.gc.ca
* Elizabeth May (Green Leader): elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca
—
I have made a new email template for fighting back against Bill C-34. I will be improving it as we learn more about the legislation from legal experts, and you are encouraged to modify it to your liking:
> Subject: Protect Canadians‘ Privacy: Oppose Bill C-34’s Mandatory Age Verification Requirements
> Dear [Prime Minister/Minister/MP Name],
> I am writing to urge you to reject the mandatory age verification and age assurance requirements in Bill C-34, the Safe Social Media Act, which would impose these measures across social media platforms, AI chatbot services, and adult content websites, including requirements previously proposed under Senator Julie Miville-Dechêne’s Bill S-209.
> Mandatory age verification and age assurance as a condition of accessing lawful online content is an unacceptable threat to Canadians‘ privacy when accessing social media platforms, artificial intelligence systems, and adult content websites. Requiring individuals to verify their age to access lawful online content creates new opportunities for data breaches, surveillance, and misuse of sensitive personal information. In the case of sensitive or stigmatized personal information like adult content, data breaches can cause permanent and irreparable harm. These requirements create records and metadata that link a person’s offline identity to their online activity. They also disproportionately target marginalized groups, such as the LGBTQ community. Once this infrastructure exists, its scope consistently expands beyond its stated purpose as seen in other countries.
> There is no such thing as private or anonymous age verification. Canadians deserve more privacy online, not less.
> Protecting kids should not come at the cost of violating the privacy of all Canadians. I urge you to focus on better parental controls for parents, restrictions on K-12 school WiFi, and targeting services marketed as explicitly for kids. This would be in line with the recent Angus Reid survey on social media age bans, where 72% of Canadians said parents, and not the government, should be the ones enforcing the bans. Most Canadian parents already take measures to restrict their kids‘ technology and internet use. We should be supporting parents with better parental controls, instead of trying to force companies to violate Canadians‘ privacy.
> Sincerely,
> [Your Name]
> [Optional Postal Code]
> [City], [Province]
Note: When emailing Conservative MPs, consider removing the reference to the LGBTQ community in the second paragraph.
Here we go to the surveillance state, all for „protecting kids“ because parents are too dumb to use parental controls.
So that makes it most kids. No parent is going to pay for a VPN just so their kids can use social media. The friction of always being on vpn alone will eliminate majority of them which will snowball into even vpn users not using it as their friends aren’t on there.
Where do they draw the line? Is discord a social media(probably)? How about roblox? What about steam? Every platform is trying to be a social media, look at Spotify.
Is there a way to protect kids without taking away everyone’s privacy?
classic Beaverton tho
So what’s social media? What’s the definition of social media that this government is using?
Its insane how quickly we went from a free and open internet to this fucking holocaust era of blatant privacy issues and overreach. For fuck sake, run the country and stay in your lane
While I like satire this post kind of trivializes and in a way normalizes this controversial bill . . After seeing this pass in the UK and AU has the overton window really shifted to this here too?
They don’t care for children. That’s more than obvious. This bill is a huge Trojan horse to have so the government can have control over the users by making the having to provide ID to “prove” they are adults. Bye bye internet anonymity. No more whistleblowers, not more people saying what the government doesn’t like. It’s so simple.
This is very poorly thought out. This isn’t going to only affect kids, adults are going to be required to prove they are adults to use any of these non-defined sites as well. But there’s currently no method of doing so safely. Third party companies keep getting hacked for the information. This is going to open way more people up to being scammed because they won’t know the difference between safe sites and non safe sites. If your health care number is on your ID, that’s now vulnerable too. It also removes all anonymity online. Again, very poorly thought out.
Reminder they don’t care about the kids. It’s about everyone linking their social to an ID so they can debank or throw you in jail if you say something against them.
This will be the same general idea as piracy.
They block one avenue, four more appear.
I’m old enough to remember Hulk Hogan slamming Andre.
I will never, ever submit legitimate ID to use social media. I also expect I will be using social media for years to come. There’s always a way around.
For the record, I’m not at all opposed to restricting children from social media.
I’m very, very opposed to submitting my own ID to these companies. Wll never ever happen.
It’s a joke but it’s not.
Beaverton click bait
Who’s paying for that VPN, or allowing their kids to install it? Any half engaged parent would be able to manage it.
This made me laugh out loud cause my father is older and has thought my use of a VPN for years was some kind of NSA hacking program equilvant.
I initially just got it so I could watch SNL clips online.
I could see why Boomers think some age verification will stop kids. I mean, I haven’t lied to pornhub or steam for years before I was 18.
They don’t even need VPNs. They just need to register with a phony birthdate when they sign up for an account.
All these politicians seem determined to make me hate them. Say what you will about Ford being corrupt, I’ll take a corrupt populist over this digital ID shitfuckery any day
I don’t think people realize that a lot of kids ARE that dumb.
Just lmao. Government working on useless shits
Im for it and yet I think we need to adopt to new media.
Im more for parental controls on FB and Twitter.
Don’t you have to pay for VPNs? How many kids are actually using these services? With what money?
Good enough for me
Did nobody notice it’s the Beaverton?
Like the Canadian onion. Satire
Still cbc reported that bill c-34 is in the works regarding this kind of stuff.
But please don’t just read headlines. Or a single article before forming an opinion
I mean, I know it’s supposed to be satire, but wouldn’t stopping our dumbest people accessing misinformation complete the assignment?
Most kids couldn’t figure out vpns tbh
The very best Beaverton headlines are the ones that are literally true.