How about inviting big players into the country? Oh wait we got monopolies, JK.
SomewherePossible791 on
11 straight years of bad investments but I’m sure this one will be a success
jmmmmj on
Fourth time’s the charm?
GiveUpAndDye on
To summarize, we produce a lot of food in Canada but food is still expensive because major retailers dominate the market, where food is processed outside of Canada. This aims to help source food from farms in Canada to Canadians. Let’s see if it pays off. I sure hope it will but the lpc have shown time and time again their good intentions go no where.
tharizzla on
Need some restrictions in place against loblaws
triple-filter-test on
If you read the article, this sounds like a well considered, very progressive movement toward building food independence for Canada, while not giving money to the big producers and vendors.
this might actually work!
gotfcgo on
If you hate Galen this is good news
Recent_Mouse3037 on
W. I have a locally sourced store near me and the price differences are staggering.
1baby2cats on
Oh, he finally has an answer to how much an average family spends on groceries? He stayed silent when asked during the liberal party debate
Sorry_Moose86704 on
Holy crap the amount of people here mouthing off who never even opened the article. This is great news and sounds very promising for small grocers, farmers, and Canadians
trapper5 on
CTRL+F “breakup Loblaws”
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ShitNailedIt on
Make it so small independent grocers can better compete with the giants without getting edged out through unfair practices
_Space_Core_ on
I hope this works. They acknowledge that lack of competition is increasing prices, but I feel like this won’t make mom and pop stores just appear out of thin air. I feel like it would just be better to fight the grocery stores head on.
voltairesalias on
What a bunch of bullshit. So this:
1) doubles down on supply management – a system that pointedly and purposefully raises food prices.
2) aims to diminish imports of food… Which, again, would raise prices.
3) completely ignores energy, insurance, and rental costs for grocers.
4) basically just blames big retailers for high food prices.
I’ll tell you an infallible way to reduce food costs – scrap fuel related taxes, eliminate supply management, and declare unilateral free trade enabling our grocers to import whatever they want without import fees. I absolutely promise this would work.
KingOfTheIntertron on
Maybe loblaws and metro could just make slightly less profit?
queenannsrevenge99 on
We made a problem so now we’re going to burn your tax dollars to “ fix “ it for you.
Meanwhile filling our friends pockets along the way, you’re welcome everyday Canadians.
Sunny ways
Old-Introduction-337 on
He finally admitted it is bad.
JoeBlough71 on
Remember three years ago when Frankie Bubbles made the major grocers pinky swear to stabilize prices?
Government spending to make food cheaper won’t make food cheaper.
Why sell butter for $3.99/lb when other retailers are selling it for $7.99/lb ? Sell it for $7.49/lb and increase your profitability. Then open a few more locations. When you get big enough, sell out to one of the giant retailers.
If there is a government program, paid for by taxpayers, business people will find a way to extract maximum profit.
Like „Cash for Clunkers“, the bank bailouts, and subprime mortgages in the US. Greener home grants, and first time home buyer’s incentive in Canada.
fakfakn1kke1 on
Can’t you just make laws to stop price gouging
DidIsaythatt on
They are doing nothing. I’m so tired of voting for the liberals and falling for their mess. This time I’m done.
This won’t do nothing but raise prices.
Break the damn oligopolies. People are going to food banks. Middle class individuals. People can’t afford rent because food is so expensive.
They will not be elected again. They aren’t doing anything meaningful but we knew this. We KNEW this.
Wind_Best_1440 on
Best way to lower prices is to have healthy competition.
Change the red tape and regulations for new grocers and food producers in Canada with decades long locked in low tax rates and good loan rates as long as they don’t get bought out or merge with other businesses.
Let them build as many and as close to established grocers already.
Or break up the duopolies. Nearly every large grocer in Canada is like a hundred small ones under one large Corporation. Breaking them up would create competition. Same way breaking up the railroad companies and oil companies in the states during the gilded age did.
supermau5 on
All you have to do is look at a grocery store in Europe and one here is actually insane the difference in price and quality of food . How can a country like ours witch is a net exporter of food charge our own citizens such high prices
Local-Local-5836 on
Meanwhile the Liberals are closing down the federal experimental farms that increase crop production.
lucaskywalker on
This sounds good on paper, I hope it works ad intended.
modsaretoddlers on
So, if I proceed on the assumption that somebody in government has actually done the work to figure out where this insane inflation is coming from (really, though, what is it? It’s not enough to say it’s because fuel has risen in price because, well, why has that risen in price so much? Follow that logic to get answers) then why don’t they focus on the universal solution which is to get employers to raise wages? If you raise wages so that people can return to being able to afford to live after 40 full hours of work every week, you don’t have to waste time trying to figure out how to lower prices for *everything.*
What I don’t get about the stupid increases in cost of living over the past few years is that *nobody* is focused on what we all **should** be most focused on which is wages and how they’ve been whittled down so much over such a prolonged period of time (since Reaganomics came into being) that we’re all essentially frogs in a boiling pot of water now. Nobody is bothering to mention this, ever and I find that telling.
Tall-Ad-1386 on
Time to buy more loblaws stock
jswys on
If they were serious about this they would kill the dairy and poultry boards which increase the cost of key staples.
L_viathan on
>It includes $1 billion for infrastructure — including food terminals and hubs — to help independent grocers compete with large retailers by making it easier for them to buy from farmers and food processors.
Well I’m glad it’s not just another tax cut for people but something to drive actual change.
WillListenToStories on
I think we need to do more. Any extra efficiency created, any benefit or growth that comes from this, is just going to get eaten up by one of the five grocery stores. They need to be broken up, or limited in some way, oligopolies are so destructive for economic systems.
And probably more importantly, a government food distribution replacement. When I was working in the kitchen industry, our options were Sysco and one other. If you ever wonder why food prices went up every year and your likely favourite restaurants all went out of business after covid Sysco is a big part of that. A crown corporation, or government service, food distribution system would be an enormous benefit I think for allowing small time businesses to thrive. Restaurants could rely on good prices from the increased competition, government services have less incentive to price gouge customers as well during emergencies and the like, and small mom and pop grocery stores wouldn’t have to rely on their competition for food delivery.
dsailo on
Why are the Liberals trying to fix the problem at the wrong end ?
Get the economy and industry going, create well paid jobs and this will address the problem.
Controlling prices won’t work in the long run.
Most-Round-4132 on
well two things are true
this is likely to not really work
but also, most of Canada isnt really ideal for farming, so comparing policies to the US also isnt really sincere
the best way to spend federal $ to lower food prices would be to negotiate huge purchase agreements with US producers at key times (late fall for protein, late winter for produce) and stipulate that if anyone wants to be able to sell said products, they most commit to price caps (only for the volume of pre purchased product they can be alloted to be supplied)
It really would not be that complicated from a logistics standpoint, but politically selling the idea of large purchases of US food products via taxpayer dollars probably is not a smart political play to say the least
silly_rabbi on
Any move that’s not just giving us some of our money back so we can spend it on more overpriced groceries is good.
throwitawayorsome on
It really bothers me to see stupid shit like this. Carney is a smart guy. He’s done plenty of talks, papers and his books talk about the problems of uncontrolled capitalism, the TFW programs and protected oligopolies. But this is what he comes up with when he has the power to make real change.
The only thing this affirms for me is that the liberal party is corrupt to the core.
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Is this because we are in a recession ?
How about inviting big players into the country? Oh wait we got monopolies, JK.
11 straight years of bad investments but I’m sure this one will be a success
Fourth time’s the charm?
To summarize, we produce a lot of food in Canada but food is still expensive because major retailers dominate the market, where food is processed outside of Canada. This aims to help source food from farms in Canada to Canadians. Let’s see if it pays off. I sure hope it will but the lpc have shown time and time again their good intentions go no where.
Need some restrictions in place against loblaws
If you read the article, this sounds like a well considered, very progressive movement toward building food independence for Canada, while not giving money to the big producers and vendors.
this might actually work!
If you hate Galen this is good news
W. I have a locally sourced store near me and the price differences are staggering.
Oh, he finally has an answer to how much an average family spends on groceries? He stayed silent when asked during the liberal party debate
Holy crap the amount of people here mouthing off who never even opened the article. This is great news and sounds very promising for small grocers, farmers, and Canadians
CTRL+F “breakup Loblaws”
0 results found
Make it so small independent grocers can better compete with the giants without getting edged out through unfair practices
I hope this works. They acknowledge that lack of competition is increasing prices, but I feel like this won’t make mom and pop stores just appear out of thin air. I feel like it would just be better to fight the grocery stores head on.
What a bunch of bullshit. So this:
1) doubles down on supply management – a system that pointedly and purposefully raises food prices.
2) aims to diminish imports of food… Which, again, would raise prices.
3) completely ignores energy, insurance, and rental costs for grocers.
4) basically just blames big retailers for high food prices.
I’ll tell you an infallible way to reduce food costs – scrap fuel related taxes, eliminate supply management, and declare unilateral free trade enabling our grocers to import whatever they want without import fees. I absolutely promise this would work.
Maybe loblaws and metro could just make slightly less profit?
We made a problem so now we’re going to burn your tax dollars to “ fix “ it for you.
Meanwhile filling our friends pockets along the way, you’re welcome everyday Canadians.
Sunny ways
He finally admitted it is bad.
Remember three years ago when Frankie Bubbles made the major grocers pinky swear to stabilize prices?
[Pepperidge Farm remembers.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/freeland-champagne-grocery-ceos-meeting-1.6970207)
So about those antitrust laws …
Government spending to make food cheaper won’t make food cheaper.
Why sell butter for $3.99/lb when other retailers are selling it for $7.99/lb ? Sell it for $7.49/lb and increase your profitability. Then open a few more locations. When you get big enough, sell out to one of the giant retailers.
If there is a government program, paid for by taxpayers, business people will find a way to extract maximum profit.
Like „Cash for Clunkers“, the bank bailouts, and subprime mortgages in the US. Greener home grants, and first time home buyer’s incentive in Canada.
Can’t you just make laws to stop price gouging
They are doing nothing. I’m so tired of voting for the liberals and falling for their mess. This time I’m done.
This won’t do nothing but raise prices.
Break the damn oligopolies. People are going to food banks. Middle class individuals. People can’t afford rent because food is so expensive.
They will not be elected again. They aren’t doing anything meaningful but we knew this. We KNEW this.
Best way to lower prices is to have healthy competition.
Change the red tape and regulations for new grocers and food producers in Canada with decades long locked in low tax rates and good loan rates as long as they don’t get bought out or merge with other businesses.
Let them build as many and as close to established grocers already.
Or break up the duopolies. Nearly every large grocer in Canada is like a hundred small ones under one large Corporation. Breaking them up would create competition. Same way breaking up the railroad companies and oil companies in the states during the gilded age did.
All you have to do is look at a grocery store in Europe and one here is actually insane the difference in price and quality of food . How can a country like ours witch is a net exporter of food charge our own citizens such high prices
Meanwhile the Liberals are closing down the federal experimental farms that increase crop production.
This sounds good on paper, I hope it works ad intended.
So, if I proceed on the assumption that somebody in government has actually done the work to figure out where this insane inflation is coming from (really, though, what is it? It’s not enough to say it’s because fuel has risen in price because, well, why has that risen in price so much? Follow that logic to get answers) then why don’t they focus on the universal solution which is to get employers to raise wages? If you raise wages so that people can return to being able to afford to live after 40 full hours of work every week, you don’t have to waste time trying to figure out how to lower prices for *everything.*
What I don’t get about the stupid increases in cost of living over the past few years is that *nobody* is focused on what we all **should** be most focused on which is wages and how they’ve been whittled down so much over such a prolonged period of time (since Reaganomics came into being) that we’re all essentially frogs in a boiling pot of water now. Nobody is bothering to mention this, ever and I find that telling.
Time to buy more loblaws stock
If they were serious about this they would kill the dairy and poultry boards which increase the cost of key staples.
>It includes $1 billion for infrastructure — including food terminals and hubs — to help independent grocers compete with large retailers by making it easier for them to buy from farmers and food processors.
Well I’m glad it’s not just another tax cut for people but something to drive actual change.
I think we need to do more. Any extra efficiency created, any benefit or growth that comes from this, is just going to get eaten up by one of the five grocery stores. They need to be broken up, or limited in some way, oligopolies are so destructive for economic systems.
And probably more importantly, a government food distribution replacement. When I was working in the kitchen industry, our options were Sysco and one other. If you ever wonder why food prices went up every year and your likely favourite restaurants all went out of business after covid Sysco is a big part of that. A crown corporation, or government service, food distribution system would be an enormous benefit I think for allowing small time businesses to thrive. Restaurants could rely on good prices from the increased competition, government services have less incentive to price gouge customers as well during emergencies and the like, and small mom and pop grocery stores wouldn’t have to rely on their competition for food delivery.
Why are the Liberals trying to fix the problem at the wrong end ?
Get the economy and industry going, create well paid jobs and this will address the problem.
Controlling prices won’t work in the long run.
well two things are true
this is likely to not really work
but also, most of Canada isnt really ideal for farming, so comparing policies to the US also isnt really sincere
the best way to spend federal $ to lower food prices would be to negotiate huge purchase agreements with US producers at key times (late fall for protein, late winter for produce) and stipulate that if anyone wants to be able to sell said products, they most commit to price caps (only for the volume of pre purchased product they can be alloted to be supplied)
It really would not be that complicated from a logistics standpoint, but politically selling the idea of large purchases of US food products via taxpayer dollars probably is not a smart political play to say the least
Any move that’s not just giving us some of our money back so we can spend it on more overpriced groceries is good.
It really bothers me to see stupid shit like this. Carney is a smart guy. He’s done plenty of talks, papers and his books talk about the problems of uncontrolled capitalism, the TFW programs and protected oligopolies. But this is what he comes up with when he has the power to make real change.
The only thing this affirms for me is that the liberal party is corrupt to the core.