Es ist an der Zeit, die „unfaire“ Renten-Dreifachsperre abzuschaffen, sagt der britische Zar für Lebenshaltungskosten
https://www.ft.com/content/21527e4b-c720-4078-9209-61e6314e8dc8?syn-25a6b1a6=1
Von hihepo1
Es ist an der Zeit, die „unfaire“ Renten-Dreifachsperre abzuschaffen, sagt der britische Zar für Lebenshaltungskosten
https://www.ft.com/content/21527e4b-c720-4078-9209-61e6314e8dc8?syn-25a6b1a6=1
Von hihepo1
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Oh boy the bingo players will be all out in force with their zimmers and walking sticks the TL is unsustainable but they’ll just moan about it and they say the young are soft
Getting ready to axe it for millennials and the other later gens, now the boomers have had their full.
Remember when they tried to make the winter fuel payment means tested?
Yeah good luck with that. The most pampered generation in the history of mankind.
Just link it to inflation and then nobody is left worse off.
People complain about this stuff and then don’t vote.
Old fuckers vote. So old fuckers get everything they want from every party all the time.
It’s not rocket science people. You are nothing in a democracy if you don’t vote for your own interests.
Pension was only designed for 11-12 years now with an effort to lower nhs risks improving exercise and diets as well as advances in medicine the current expectancy is 18-20 years for those retiring in 2026. They have to keep pushing state pension age up.
Pensioners are simply not poor enough. Something must be done.
Triple Lock is insulation against the issues with the country, don’t bother dealing with cost of living because old people are getting a pension rise every year to absorb it while those under pension age just have to eat shit I guess. If pensioners are in the dirt with us, dealing with the issues we face, then they’d be forced to actually think about fixing them, it’s feels almost feudal right now.
They don’t need to fix issues because regardless of anything, pensioners will get theirs and it’s basically a bribe, the old are willing and enthusiastic stooges for the rich. Sadly pensioners don’t make very good soldiers because I’m sure we can tie some mortars to wheelchairs and send em off and reduce defense costs but apparently that’s „immoral“ when it’s actually pronounced „efficient“.
So basically they’ll introduce it after the current boomers are gone. Brilliant.
God. It’s all culture war stuff here, isn’t it? People on the bloody state pension, which is a pittance anyway, aren’t the enemy.
We all ought to campaign for something like the triple lock *as a minimum* for everyone – expecting our wages to increase at least by inflation or the average should be the floor.
Simple question, for all the ones wanting it scrapped.
Will it save us money and lower our taxes??
Axe it, push for Brits to become more financially savvy, we have an extremely low % of people who actually bother with investment past having a pension and maybe throwing money in a savings account.
retool pension schemes to support Britain more, get them investing more in to renewables, and British business so it’s essentially a double whammy, individuals hopefully get a decent return on investments and they are supporting the growth of where they live.
If they are gonna take it away, do it straight away along with the winter wine allowance.
Boomers should start doing their bit to save the country.
Honestly, if it was just single-locked to inflation I don’t think anyone would have any complaints. Why it should be tied to wage growth I’ve no idea.
*“Instructions unclear, freezing tax thresholds further to fund higher pensions”* – UK gov, probably
Means test it, give the poorest a lot more to live on and take it away from those who have loads
I’ve got a better idea – tax the rich and introduce UBI.
But the donors might have to pay more tax, so that’s not going to happen unless people start voting for politicians that want to do this.
Ok the way this works is this.
1. Pensioner average incomes are deemed too low and need to be increased
2. The govt introducers triple lock as an intermediate mechanism to raise pensioner incomes for those who have no or little ability to affect their own position.
The govt forces self enrollment onto current earners to increase pension savings across future generations
3. The govt constantly analyses the size of personal pension pots to determine when it can remove the triple lock.
The day is coming, but please understand this is just a transfer of financial obligation away from the govt and onto those currently with the longest earning opportunities.
Normally, civilisations were driven by the energetic young, with new ideas and new ways of thinking.
Now we have the „no“ to everything being built old people
Can someone ELI5? Does this mean anything that I’ve been putting into my pension will essentially be lost? I wasnt expecting much from it but something would be better than nout!
EDIT: My terrible spelling
The trick is to keep it, put a 1000pc tax on pergolas or something.
Or, yah know, freeze income tax, so that they creep over the threshold.
Point is, just keep it, and tax pensioners back in other ways.
„cost of living tsar“
Anyone else find it weird how media add „tsar“ to any authority?
Are doctors „healthcare tsars“? is Clarkson a „car and farming tsar“?
It sounds dumb.
The whole framing of this is daft.
The economy being „fair“ should not be the goal. The goal should be to produce lots of goods and services and distributing them as widely as possible. If you get stuck on the first then what you do is you end up twiddling sticks in a cave but at least everyone has the same number of sticks.
What matters about stuff like the triple lock and planning permission and so many of the other „grandfathered in“ style legislations is that they are literally _breaking the economy_ by making actual productive work less valuable than either sitting on assets or trying to game democracy to get your group a bit more in benefits.
Ignoring the whole benefits / pensions bit for a second – the main winning strategies in the UK are to either obtain assets and sit on the unrealised gains, or to personally be domiciled abroad, run a company here and shuffle the profits overseas where they can’t get sucked into the tax black hole.
We need widespread economic reform not because one group has a bit less than another but because both the link between hard work and profit is very weak at the moment _and_ the link between useful business activity and profit is very weak at the moment.
If we have that then people can go out and get their share. Without it, we are stuck in this madness of trying to centrally plan shuffling about trivial amounts of money from one group to another.
Cost of Living TSAR? What the hell is this guy, Richard Walker….. CEO of Iceland who has made going to Iceland even more unhealthy and expensive than bloody M&S…..
More bollocks to get Billionaires and multi-Billion Corporations of the hook.
There is an international OECD measure called the Net Pension Replacement Rate that measures how generous every Country’s pension schemes are.
Want to know who the *bottom* 10 countries on the *entire* planet are? (larger numbers are more generous)
**1. South Africa** **2. United Kingdom** **3. Japan** **4. Lithuania** **5. Estonia** **6. Ireland** **7. Australia** **8. Latvia** **9. New Zealand** **10. Korea**
We are almost the worst country for pension provision on Earth – only South Africa is worse and that’s with the triple lock.
The billionaires have been selling a lie that that the boomers are taking everything, but that could not be further from the truth.
14% of pensioners in the Uk, right now, are living in absolute poverty with many others that aren’t much better off.
The problem is not the triple lock, nor the cost of the pensions – the core problem is how they are funded.
At the end of the day, the Corporations making billions every single year should be paying a lot more toward the pension pots, especially as they are the ones that benefit the most from the workers that they exploit.
But alas, that will never happen because guess who is paying off the Government?
You can vote to drop the triple lock – sure. At least the Uk will finally beat South Africa to the very bottom of the international pensions table.
I personally find it astonishing that a hyper capitalistic and anti-socialist Country like the USA has a much better pension provision than us even with our triple lock – they currently reside between 20th-22nd place on the same list, dependent on the calculations used – but either way a lot more generous than we are.
The thing with life is that everyone grows old and if you make it to old age, I wonder how many will look back at their decision to remove the triple lock with any kind of fondness?
We should return to the original purpose of the state pension (which was to prevent those who are elderly or who cannot work from falling into poverty).
As it currently stands lots of people who do not need the state pension receive it, and lots of people who do need it do not receive enough. People are quick to suggest means testing as the answer but this is extremely unpopular as it explicitly excludes lots of people, some of whom will have paid in by far the most into the system.
A better solution is to design the system in such a way that people self exclude – namely by providing access free “student like” accommodation (including meals, activities etc) for all pensioners. This would be at a basic but acceptable standard (many students happily pay hundreds £s monthly for this kind of accommodation).
Rich pensioners would self exclude as they would not make use of this provision so there would be no need for means testing.