“The court treated the AI overviews as Google’s own content and rejected Google’s argument that users were responsible for fact-checking the results themselves”
Interesting take. I can dig it, Germany.
yepthisismyusername on
If you’re gonna make up new sentences based on a conglomeration of available data, you should be responsible for the the content of those sentences. Fuck yeah!
Irish_Whiskey on
>The Munich court found that this reasoning doesn’t apply to AI overviews. A regular search engine just points to outside websites. But AI overviews generate „independent, new, and substantive statements“ by evaluating and combining content from various third-party sites.
>The court also noted that the AI overview is „by no means absolutely necessary“ for using the internet.
I don’t disagree, but I’d be surprised if this becomes the standard given how much money many industries will soon have invested in not being held liable for AI mistakes and hallucinations.
madogvelkor on
They will probably just reword it to say something like „According to X, Y, and Z….“ Then it is a truthful statement if X Y and Z said those things.
ccims on
This is great!
kiwiboyus on
Beautiful ❤️
Appleberry-16 on
going to reinstall Netscape Navigator.
oh shit i don’t have a floppy disk reader.
jleonardbc on
If you refuse to be held responsible for the words you post on your website, you shouldn’t be allowed to profit from them, either.
If you won’t take blame when it’s wrong, why should you get credit when it’s right?
_autumnwhimsy on
there have been so many anti-AI lawsuits and i’m living for all of them.
Gardensplosion on
It’s about gotdamn time companies start being held accountable for what is obviously their doing.
Vaxion on
It sure is Google’s own words because I’ve seen it give fake answers even after quoting the source that has the correct answers.
offtodevnull on
Expecting a company to be responsible for its products. Interesting concept. What next, mandatory seat belts for cars?
xyzygyred on
Now, make the libel laws apply to these platforms as they do to newspapers.
tl01magic on
makes sense to me.
good ruling imo
Time-Industry-1364 on
Whatever legislation gets passed to get rid of this crap, I’m all for it. The Google AI overviews are often very wrong. Just 20 minutes ago I was searching for commands, and it gave me Windows commands that positively do not even exist. A lot of people nowadays will read the overview and then assume they have a solid, correct answer… when they do not.
ToolTimeT on
I love that.
OtherwiseCoat5329 on
The internet overall has become the logical conclusion of „garbage in“ so why not crown the ultimate „garbage out“?
IntelArtiGen on
Turns out, you can’t produce any output you want, send it to people, and not care about the consequences it may have.
> only Google can check those statements
Yeah they’re a bit optimistic about what Google can do. If it’s an AI hallucination it’s very hard to check it.
ComedyBits on
I wish American courts had the guts.
UpdatesReady on
Nice. Google once told me to make slug jerky out of the dead slugs in my slug trap.
Pretty sure that’s how you get lungworm.
One of you crazy redditors had *clearly* joked about it, and that was the source material it pulled from.
I wonder if Ashely MacIsaac’s lawyers will be able to cite this in his lawsuit against Google.
OutspokenPerson on
I’m glad to read this. I’m so sick of googje’s responses reading like fact when they are so often hot spun garbage mixed with marketing garbage.
Fehreddit on
what happened to copyright laws in the first place ?
Ok-Replacement9595 on
Now do XAI and Grok and Musk’s little CSAM empire.
benignbigotry on
I was just talking to a colleague about this after a response from Google AI regarding why „everyone was suddenly interested in drinking raw milk“ where it had paragraphs of text about the reasons people support raw milk while putting information about how raw milk can literally kill you at the very bottom. If you’re asking about raw milk and AI provides you with everything you need to keep your bias before providing any facts on the matter, they should be held liable.
Tuckertcs on
Curious what the implications are for users using AI they don’t control.
If I make some block of text with ChatGPT, is it my words or Open AI’s words, or both?
mombi on
Good. Now enforce it.
West-Abalone-171 on
It’s either copyright infringement (and thus they owe everyone on earth all of their revenue) or it’s their own words or both:
It’l can’t be transformative **and** something they didn’t write.
Axle_65 on
Good. Because you know someone out there isn’t going to double check a medical fact and hurt themselves. Now they can sue Google for improperly teaching them how to say, tend to a burn.
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“The court treated the AI overviews as Google’s own content and rejected Google’s argument that users were responsible for fact-checking the results themselves”
Interesting take. I can dig it, Germany.
If you’re gonna make up new sentences based on a conglomeration of available data, you should be responsible for the the content of those sentences. Fuck yeah!
>The Munich court found that this reasoning doesn’t apply to AI overviews. A regular search engine just points to outside websites. But AI overviews generate „independent, new, and substantive statements“ by evaluating and combining content from various third-party sites.
>The court also noted that the AI overview is „by no means absolutely necessary“ for using the internet.
I don’t disagree, but I’d be surprised if this becomes the standard given how much money many industries will soon have invested in not being held liable for AI mistakes and hallucinations.
They will probably just reword it to say something like „According to X, Y, and Z….“ Then it is a truthful statement if X Y and Z said those things.
This is great!
Beautiful ❤️
going to reinstall Netscape Navigator.
oh shit i don’t have a floppy disk reader.
If you refuse to be held responsible for the words you post on your website, you shouldn’t be allowed to profit from them, either.
If you won’t take blame when it’s wrong, why should you get credit when it’s right?
there have been so many anti-AI lawsuits and i’m living for all of them.
It’s about gotdamn time companies start being held accountable for what is obviously their doing.
It sure is Google’s own words because I’ve seen it give fake answers even after quoting the source that has the correct answers.
Expecting a company to be responsible for its products. Interesting concept. What next, mandatory seat belts for cars?
Now, make the libel laws apply to these platforms as they do to newspapers.
makes sense to me.
good ruling imo
Whatever legislation gets passed to get rid of this crap, I’m all for it. The Google AI overviews are often very wrong. Just 20 minutes ago I was searching for commands, and it gave me Windows commands that positively do not even exist. A lot of people nowadays will read the overview and then assume they have a solid, correct answer… when they do not.
I love that.
The internet overall has become the logical conclusion of „garbage in“ so why not crown the ultimate „garbage out“?
Turns out, you can’t produce any output you want, send it to people, and not care about the consequences it may have.
> only Google can check those statements
Yeah they’re a bit optimistic about what Google can do. If it’s an AI hallucination it’s very hard to check it.
I wish American courts had the guts.
Nice. Google once told me to make slug jerky out of the dead slugs in my slug trap.
Pretty sure that’s how you get lungworm.
One of you crazy redditors had *clearly* joked about it, and that was the source material it pulled from.
Lol
[https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/1czkujh/this_google_ai_thing_is_a_really_bad_idea/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/1czkujh/this_google_ai_thing_is_a_really_bad_idea/)
I wonder if Ashely MacIsaac’s lawyers will be able to cite this in his lawsuit against Google.
I’m glad to read this. I’m so sick of googje’s responses reading like fact when they are so often hot spun garbage mixed with marketing garbage.
what happened to copyright laws in the first place ?
Now do XAI and Grok and Musk’s little CSAM empire.
I was just talking to a colleague about this after a response from Google AI regarding why „everyone was suddenly interested in drinking raw milk“ where it had paragraphs of text about the reasons people support raw milk while putting information about how raw milk can literally kill you at the very bottom. If you’re asking about raw milk and AI provides you with everything you need to keep your bias before providing any facts on the matter, they should be held liable.
Curious what the implications are for users using AI they don’t control.
If I make some block of text with ChatGPT, is it my words or Open AI’s words, or both?
Good. Now enforce it.
It’s either copyright infringement (and thus they owe everyone on earth all of their revenue) or it’s their own words or both:
It’l can’t be transformative **and** something they didn’t write.
Good. Because you know someone out there isn’t going to double check a medical fact and hurt themselves. Now they can sue Google for improperly teaching them how to say, tend to a burn.