We will need jump from 10k net imigration now to 500k a year to be able to partialy cover missing workers to sustain our social systems and have 15m more imigrants on job market by 2070
By the comments in this post we have
-Polish people costs more than Foreigners.
-Company hires Foreigners to pay less then for a polish.
– with so much foreigners the rent goes skyrocketing
-rent prices are so high that polish people cannot afford
-all rents goes to Foreigners who earn less than polish people
Try to find the error in this logic. Math is not mathing
If the rental is so high that polish people that should have good salaries are not having means to pay it, how the hell foreigners with families etc etc that accept to earn less are paying for this? It makes sense?
Maybe, just maybe, really just maybe… most of homes are owned by boomers or some upper-class and companies run by boomers or else upper-class, and we’re all just the fucking slaves of this generation/elites, doesn’t matter if we are polish, Europeans or extra-ue citizens at all.
Actually, all people with power to really solve the problem (politicians etc) are just having fun looking us to hit heads discussing these subjects.
Let’s get rid of 7% of people living in a place, for sure companies will grow consciousness and pay more, landlords will lower the rentals… no way they will not delocalise to a cheaper country. As Fiat delocalised to Poland when Italy was too expensive and will go whatever else when Poland become too expensive as well. Same story always, is obvious at this point.
*This is just the opinion of a guy who have seen real time meeting discussing move to Hungary because labor is cheaper there now.
trzepet on
Lets hope poland will become much much more colorful in following years
lexahiq on
Someone said something about „we need to find a solution“, like… You mean „final solution“? I was layoffed from huge IT company (mb it was my fault anyways). You can provide me voluntarily euthanasia if you can,I’m tired seeing this kind of anger towards some shit low wage immigrants. I’m Belarusian btw. Dunno why I even writing this, cause „I’m tired boss“ mb. 24zl hourly btw… From „royalty“ to „peasant“. But I want to thank real Polish people, cause besides reddit they are so wholesome and provide me hospitality every time.
Ok_Mango8118 on
7,2% isn’t the percentage of foreign workers, it’s how much their number rose recently. Poland has a population of 37/38 million, 1.14 million is around 3%. Also what could be the problem if that number rises to 10 or 15%?
As long as the employment rate is high, unemployment rate is low and as long as immigrants aren’t exploited just for wage suppression, Poles need to understand that immigrants aren’t the problem; problematic immigrants are the problem. Some Western countries aren’t having problems because of immigrants; they have problems because of some immigrants. Therefore, the solution is simply managing them better
Commit crimes: you pay fines, get punished, and if you do them repeatedly, you get kicked out. If you are dangerous, you get kicked out immediately.
Commit tax evasion: you get kicked out.
Unemployed: find a job. If you don’t want to work, even if you could and have the ability to do so, you get kicked out
Want to bring your culture? No. Believe in what you want, pray what you want, but the culture is Polish and must stay Polish. If you want to live here, accept it; if you don’t want it, go back
You want citizenship? You must live there 15–20 years and pass a B2/C1 Polish language exam, plus a cultural and civic knowledge exam. You must also renounce your previous citizenship, or be born here and complete all schooling here, and prefer Poland over the country of origin of your parents
InitialPassion6994 on
I just came across this post randomly, but isn’t that funny fat guy protecting the borders leading Poland right now? I thought he said there were zero immigrants and talked about how successful Poland is. Why are you all complaining?
matthatt24 on
Feels good to be a statistic
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We will need jump from 10k net imigration now to 500k a year to be able to partialy cover missing workers to sustain our social systems and have 15m more imigrants on job market by 2070
Great, wages for native Poles won’t go up.
Wage suppresion yupeee
they misspelled ukranians
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We need more female migrants, more women = more babies, big booty latinas is my first choice
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By the comments in this post we have
-Polish people costs more than Foreigners.
-Company hires Foreigners to pay less then for a polish.
– with so much foreigners the rent goes skyrocketing
-rent prices are so high that polish people cannot afford
-all rents goes to Foreigners who earn less than polish people
Try to find the error in this logic. Math is not mathing
If the rental is so high that polish people that should have good salaries are not having means to pay it, how the hell foreigners with families etc etc that accept to earn less are paying for this? It makes sense?
Maybe, just maybe, really just maybe… most of homes are owned by boomers or some upper-class and companies run by boomers or else upper-class, and we’re all just the fucking slaves of this generation/elites, doesn’t matter if we are polish, Europeans or extra-ue citizens at all.
Actually, all people with power to really solve the problem (politicians etc) are just having fun looking us to hit heads discussing these subjects.
Let’s get rid of 7% of people living in a place, for sure companies will grow consciousness and pay more, landlords will lower the rentals… no way they will not delocalise to a cheaper country. As Fiat delocalised to Poland when Italy was too expensive and will go whatever else when Poland become too expensive as well. Same story always, is obvious at this point.
*This is just the opinion of a guy who have seen real time meeting discussing move to Hungary because labor is cheaper there now.
Lets hope poland will become much much more colorful in following years
Someone said something about „we need to find a solution“, like… You mean „final solution“? I was layoffed from huge IT company (mb it was my fault anyways). You can provide me voluntarily euthanasia if you can,I’m tired seeing this kind of anger towards some shit low wage immigrants. I’m Belarusian btw. Dunno why I even writing this, cause „I’m tired boss“ mb. 24zl hourly btw… From „royalty“ to „peasant“. But I want to thank real Polish people, cause besides reddit they are so wholesome and provide me hospitality every time.
7,2% isn’t the percentage of foreign workers, it’s how much their number rose recently. Poland has a population of 37/38 million, 1.14 million is around 3%. Also what could be the problem if that number rises to 10 or 15%?
As long as the employment rate is high, unemployment rate is low and as long as immigrants aren’t exploited just for wage suppression, Poles need to understand that immigrants aren’t the problem; problematic immigrants are the problem. Some Western countries aren’t having problems because of immigrants; they have problems because of some immigrants. Therefore, the solution is simply managing them better
Commit crimes: you pay fines, get punished, and if you do them repeatedly, you get kicked out. If you are dangerous, you get kicked out immediately.
Commit tax evasion: you get kicked out.
Unemployed: find a job. If you don’t want to work, even if you could and have the ability to do so, you get kicked out
Want to bring your culture? No. Believe in what you want, pray what you want, but the culture is Polish and must stay Polish. If you want to live here, accept it; if you don’t want it, go back
You want citizenship? You must live there 15–20 years and pass a B2/C1 Polish language exam, plus a cultural and civic knowledge exam. You must also renounce your previous citizenship, or be born here and complete all schooling here, and prefer Poland over the country of origin of your parents
I just came across this post randomly, but isn’t that funny fat guy protecting the borders leading Poland right now? I thought he said there were zero immigrants and talked about how successful Poland is. Why are you all complaining?
Feels good to be a statistic