Tests deuten darauf hin, dass russische Satelliten GPS auf kontinentalem Ausmaß stören können
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/06/tests-suggest-russian-satellites-can-jam-gps-on-a-continental-scale/?utm_source=bluesky&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_social-type=owned
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Either they think Japan is a continent or Australia is in a lot of trouble
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Ahh why didnt we think of that!?!
Didn’t Veritaseum just do a video on this? Pretty scary stuff, actually.
In other words, Russian satellites deliberately create real risks for the civil aviation, transportation and military in the EU.
This is not a surprise.. why are people acting like it’s new news?
What’s the likelihood of US and China also having this capability?
Flightradar24 was doing a jumpseat flight with Wideroe in Northern Norway and while he was filming, the GPS nav onboard the Dash8 was jammed by Russia.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgBhPQ7kmd8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgBhPQ7kmd8)
What a bunch of cunts.
Fortunately, this is not a problem. Trump has assured us that his good buddy, Vladimir Putin, has assured him that he would never do anything to harm the United States/s
I’m assuming that we have something similar then
The US can also just turn off GPS for everyone. There will only be losers in the long run if 2 idiots get in a pissing contest at a national scale.
Yes, it’s a complete surprise. That’s why all rational countries should support the kinetics sanctions imposed by Ukraine. If we defund these lunatics, the madness will eventually come to an end.
Yeah duh. Nevermind what nerds were doing to weathersats with the parents‘ old Radaranges 40 years ago, sending everyone with a Garmin into the same Newark ‚hood was a hoot in the 90’s. There’s *jamming* and then there’s the fuck-with-Mr-big-shot-over-here *raspberry.*
Its really shocking a satellite can spoof another satellite?
Theyve been jamming GPS from the ground for ages. Surprised it took this long for them to make fake satellites
imagine what the Chinese satellites can do, they’ve been doing a lot of launches this year.
Yup. That’s the case.
99% they have phased array in there – plus fuckton of transmit power.
This is not new news at all
Contrary to what appears to be the popular belief, modern transport category aircraft do not navigate around the world solely using GPS (or more correctly GNSS, as GPS is only one of the major satellite-based navigation systems currently in use). Instead, modern flight management systems (FMS) utilise a number of highly redundant sources to determine their position.
The Inertial Reference System (IRS) is a self contained unit that computes the aircraft position by sensing the orientation and acceleration of the aircraft using onboard accelerators and gyroscopes. It suffers from cumulative errors over time by the nature of how it works, and so while it is usually accurate to within a few miles even after a long flight, on its own it would not usually be good enough for navigating beyond the en-route or cruise phase of flight.
Throughout the flight the FMS continuously takes position fixes from a number of ground-based radio stations, depending on what is in range of the aircraft. These fixes can be from a combination of distance measuring equipment (DME), VHF omnidirectional range (VOR) and a localiser (LOC). The best accuracy is generally achieved with DME/DME fixing, followed by VOR/DME and/or LOC/DME.
The FMS combines the computed position of the IRS, the position obtained from automatic position fixes, and if available a GNSS position in order to calculate a single „FMS position“. Furthermore, modern airliners typically have 2-3 FMS installed, which are in turn fed data by 2-3 IRS and 2 GNSS receivers, with each FMS calculating its position independently and comparing its own position to the others in the system. If the position computed any one component, be it an entire FMS or a single IRS or GNSS receiver, is found to be grossly different to the others it is voted out of the system and will no longer provide navigational data.
Over the major continents of the world, the combination of all of the above results in an actual navigational performance (ANP) that is far better than the required navigational performance (RNP) . For example, when flying a GPS-based approach the RNP is +/-0.3 NM on the final approach segment, but the aircraft will often have an ANP of as little as +/-0.01 NM. Removing the GNSS position from the equation will increase the ANP somewhat, but even so the ANP without the GNSS is often still less than the RNP required to fly the approach, albeit it would be illegal to do so.
Finally, where GNSS is not available due to spoofing or jamming, and/or ANP is greater than RNP for a GPS approach to an airfield, most airfields will have at least one (but often several) approaches that can be flown entirely by the pilots using only ground-based navigation aids such as an instrument landing system (ILS), VOR, LOC, DME, non-directional beacons (NDB), or a combination thereof.
GPS has multiple bands. Military use is encrypted. Any proof they can jam that? Im doubtful but still a big issue.
I would imagine GPS is out dated and Starlink / starshield is the new meta.
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Bastards are going to ruin my Strava
Now think about what american satellites can do? There’s has always been a tech gap between the US and Soviet (Russian ) spy equipment!
I would be almost certain that the US, China and possibly the EU and Israel also have this capability, Russia is probably the only country that has been actually shown to have tested such a capability.
Can we do the same with GLONAS?
Be a shame if the X-37 were to have to down a few of those satellites.
I have an idea, take them the fuck out and say it wasn’t you…they would do the same if they could.
This has long been known but I recently saw a neat Veritasium video about something similar:
https://youtu.be/tz23G_UXCGA
I thought the militarization of space objects was prohibited by international law? Wouldn’t this just give permission to other nations to start shooting these down?
What a cluster fuck.
That seems like Russia, spend money trying to ruin other countries while their own is burning and barely has indoor plumbing.
And since GPS jamming has no real defensive purpose, as Ukraine is demonstrating on the regular, it’s just for terrorism.
Not surprising. Aviation has issues with truckers blocking it.
What REALLY stood out to me from the veritasium vid was how he did not say which country’s satellite it was until almost the very end of the video. As if it wasn’t obvious it’s orcistan. Don’t know what to make of it but yeah, noticed it immediately.