It was only a matter of time after Australia did it
EatBaconDaily on
social media is a net negative these days, mental health issues for the young and radicalization for the old
PositiveFunction4751 on
Can we raise that age to 100?
Alert_Willingness_32 on
But what about addressing actual affordability like high grocery prices
Character-Belt-7485 on
For all I care, ban it for all of us.
We need to spend less time getting outraged online and playing into the hands of the poorly educated, divisionists, hate-mongerers, and self-annointed experts/gurus. Not to mention foreign powers.
Suitable-Broccoli264 on
Government-approved ID to do anything on the internet then, it looks like.
Adults will then need to submit government-issued ID with sensitive personal info to tech companies to prove they’re over this new limit. Seems like a bad idea. I prefer internet anonymity.
miuyao on
I am not submitting fkn ID to use Facebook. That’s what is coming for sure.
biglinuxfan on
Which will do absolutely nothing because kids can easily figure out how to bypass this, just like kids in Aus did.
A recent survey showed 60% of Australian Children still use social media regularly.
As studies require honest feedback, we can assume the number is actually higher.
There were even reports of declining mental health initially as children felt cut off from their friends, at least until they bypassed it. Mainly in isolated regions but we have those here too.
Immediate_Buffalo14 on
I sensed this was coming. What a joke. There are an infinite number of ways around this.
Creativator on
Social media apps should come with the top part of the screen blacked out with white text saying they cause dopamine addiction.
ThicccThunder on
If you support banning social media because it’s toxic and bad for people, by all means, lead by example and stay off Social Media. You don’t need a ban to do this.
StevenGBP on
that wont stop them from using it lol
GreatCanadianPotato on
The exemption is AI Chatbots.
You know, the ones that are frequently telling kids how to kill themselves and how to shoot up schools…
This ain’t about the kids.
MeaninglessOpinion on
I’m entertaining good faith arguments on why this is a good thing. Ostensibly, keeping kids off social media is positive, but not at the cost of mandatory digital ID.
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Unusual_Mistake3204 on
Disgusting new. Its a facade. They want you to put your id online.
Old_General_6741 on
Here come government approved IDs. Terrible idea. People will always find a way to bypass this.
PandaBeaarAmy on
Anything but educating the population
randomdumbfuck on
Good luck enforcing it. Kids theoretically „can’t buy alcohol“ until they’re 18 or 19 either and yet they don’t seem to have any trouble getting it. I didnt.
Winter_External5625 on
First steps of a slippery slope
Stone_Engine048 on
A bigger problem surrounding kids under 16 and social media is parents being too invested in themselves and disassociated to monitor what their kids are doing.
When parents let 8 and 9 year olds use Snapchat unsupervised (forget that it’s against their policy) there’s a clear safety issue.
World_is_yours on
Digital ID checks for everyone probably fail a charter challenge. The law in Australia forces the companies to make a reasonable effort to block underage users by estimating their age based on a combination of content, usage, geolocation etc. I think thats reasonable, but any smart or willing kid will be able to bypass it, making this another political theater to please the soccer moms and boomers. Even adults mostly socialize online these days, kids aren’t going to go play in the park if this gets implemented.
Particular-Act-8911 on
Corporate Canada needs digital IDs apparently, both sides of our shit tier government want this.
Tall-Ad-1386 on
Enforcement of dictatorship is why they bought that majority with taxpayer funds
RickiesCobra on
Social media is objectively bad for kids and their mental health. But these decisions being taken away from parents is scary. Why does it stop there? Contact sports are objectively bad for developing brains (all brains for that matter), will the government ban kids from playing football and hockey? What if I want to take my kid mountain biking? Will the government allow me to do that given the physical risk?
doodlebopwarrior on
So make everyone have their IDs have even more info than before and then force adults to upload new said IDs to access social media. HAHAHAHA
chess_the_cat on
Libs love to ban things. Speech. Ideas. Firearms. Social media. It’s all for safety guys. You voted for it; I didn’t.
Dramatic_Author3822 on
Great so now they will need proof. So some proof of ID of if will be tagged with my Reddit account
we all know that will never be leaked s/ ffs
KorgothBarbaria on
With all this bullshit are we speedrunning to a surveillance state?
EmbarrassedHelp on
Such a ban means mandatory age verification for everyone, including every Canadian adult. Protecting kids should not come at the cost of violating user privacy.
Mandatory age verification is unacceptable as there is no such thing as privacy protecting or anonymous age verification. Canadians deserve more privacy online, not less.
I would recommend emailing your province/territory’s premier, your MP, Marc Miller (Heritage Minister and responsible for the upcoming online harms legislation), along with other Liberal Cabinet Ministers & party members, and explicitly tell them to reject mandatory age verification and age assurance at the provincial and federal levels.
—
Please take the time to demand that the both the federal government refrains from doing anything that would require mandatory age verification and age assurance, by messaging following Cabinet ministers:
* Marc Miller (Heritage Minister, the minister responsible for the upcoming online harms legislation): Marc.Miller@parl.gc.ca
You don’t need to write a long message unless you really want to. Even a simple message like this can do the job (feel free to use and modify this example):
> Subject: Protect Canadians’ Privacy: Oppose Social Media Bans That Require Age Verification
> Dear [Premier/Minister Name],
> I am writing to urge you to reject any legislative proposals, including youth social media bans, restrictions on AI systems like chat bots, and restrictions on adult content that would require online services to implement mandatory age verification or age assurance measures.
> Such systems pose unacceptable risks to Canadians’ privacy and data security. Requiring individuals to verify their identity or age to access lawful online content creates new opportunities for data breaches, surveillance, and misuse of sensitive personal information. Canadians deserve stronger privacy protections online, not less.
> I am also concerned by reports that the government may seek to copy Australia’s approach. Australia’s approach is not appropriate for Canada and should not be used as a precedent for policymaking here.
> I urge you to focus on better parental controls for parents, restrictions on K-12 school WiFi, and targeting services marketed as explicitly for kids (e.g., Youtube Kids). This would be in line with the recent Angus Reid survey on social media age bans, where 72% of Canadians said parents, and not the government, should be the ones enforcing the bans. Most Canadian parents already take measures to restrict their kids‘ technology and internet use. We should be supporting parents with better parental controls, instead of trying to force companies to violate Canadians‘ privacy.
> Sincerely,
> [Your Name]
> [City], [Province]
If you want to speak out against S-209 and related legislation, you can add this:
> I urge you to reject Senator Julie Miville-Dechêne’s Bill S-209 and any similar legislation targeting adult content, as such measures would introduce mandatory age verification requirements that undermine Canadians’ privacy and create unnecessary risks to personal data security.
Here’s comes the digit ID’s to access the internet and your bank accounts. Nothing to do with tracking and surveillance of citizens…it’s for the kids.
BabaofTheShimmer on
Lol. Shouldn’t the first issue be adults who are posting children on social media??
How are you going to tell a 14 year old to get off of social media while their mom or dad posts a dozen of images of said 14 year old? Or records the kid and uploads it to TiKToK?
BabaofTheShimmer on
Can someone explain to me how the government is going to tell 14 years old not to go on social media but still allow their parents to post the likeness of their 14 year old child all over their social media accounts?
Wind_Best_1440 on
You know what would actually stop 99% of the social media fake information and fake news?
If Social media stopped paying people who posted political posts that are designed to garner clicks. Theres entire industries build on spewing fake information online for clicks to make revenue.
That entire business model needs to change.
Sea_Contract2976 on
Exempting AI chatbots is fucked up.
My bet is it’s worse than social media for brain development and social skills.
So if it’s not about protecting kids, what is it for?
SunflaresAteMyLunch on
No way in hell I’m providing ID to a social media company.
1baby2cats on
„The social media ban for children under 16 mirrors earlier action in Australia that was introduced last year. But research shows that many children have evaded the restrictions and are still accessing social media there.“
the_big_george on
Digital ids incoming
can_a_mod_suck_me on
Guess I have to delete my accounts
nightchrome on
So stupid.
libertarian_308 on
Just part of the plan to implement digital id’s
SamohtGnir on
On the one hand, it’s good for kids health. On the other hand, is it really the governments responsibility to manage your kids screen time? The government should not be your kids parents.
Vallarfax_ on
Government is gonna have to eat me on digital ID.
Working-Ad2445 on
For those of you who are thinking about using VPN to bypass gov ID verification or facial scanning, C-22 in its current form will put an end to all VPNs.
Bubbly-Daddy on
This should be fun.
PoorAxelrod on
I support this in principle. But I’m concerned about data collection and the end result. We absolutely should be protecting kids, but I think that the ultimate onus needs to be on parents and caregivers, etc.
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It was only a matter of time after Australia did it
social media is a net negative these days, mental health issues for the young and radicalization for the old
Can we raise that age to 100?
But what about addressing actual affordability like high grocery prices
For all I care, ban it for all of us.
We need to spend less time getting outraged online and playing into the hands of the poorly educated, divisionists, hate-mongerers, and self-annointed experts/gurus. Not to mention foreign powers.
Government-approved ID to do anything on the internet then, it looks like.
Contact your MPs and push back on this!
https://www.ourcommons.ca/en/contact-us
Adults will then need to submit government-issued ID with sensitive personal info to tech companies to prove they’re over this new limit. Seems like a bad idea. I prefer internet anonymity.
I am not submitting fkn ID to use Facebook. That’s what is coming for sure.
Which will do absolutely nothing because kids can easily figure out how to bypass this, just like kids in Aus did.
A recent survey showed 60% of Australian Children still use social media regularly.
As studies require honest feedback, we can assume the number is actually higher.
There were even reports of declining mental health initially as children felt cut off from their friends, at least until they bypassed it. Mainly in isolated regions but we have those here too.
I sensed this was coming. What a joke. There are an infinite number of ways around this.
Social media apps should come with the top part of the screen blacked out with white text saying they cause dopamine addiction.
If you support banning social media because it’s toxic and bad for people, by all means, lead by example and stay off Social Media. You don’t need a ban to do this.
that wont stop them from using it lol
The exemption is AI Chatbots.
You know, the ones that are frequently telling kids how to kill themselves and how to shoot up schools…
This ain’t about the kids.
I’m entertaining good faith arguments on why this is a good thing. Ostensibly, keeping kids off social media is positive, but not at the cost of mandatory digital ID.
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Disgusting new. Its a facade. They want you to put your id online.
Here come government approved IDs. Terrible idea. People will always find a way to bypass this.
Anything but educating the population
Good luck enforcing it. Kids theoretically „can’t buy alcohol“ until they’re 18 or 19 either and yet they don’t seem to have any trouble getting it. I didnt.
First steps of a slippery slope
A bigger problem surrounding kids under 16 and social media is parents being too invested in themselves and disassociated to monitor what their kids are doing.
When parents let 8 and 9 year olds use Snapchat unsupervised (forget that it’s against their policy) there’s a clear safety issue.
Digital ID checks for everyone probably fail a charter challenge. The law in Australia forces the companies to make a reasonable effort to block underage users by estimating their age based on a combination of content, usage, geolocation etc. I think thats reasonable, but any smart or willing kid will be able to bypass it, making this another political theater to please the soccer moms and boomers. Even adults mostly socialize online these days, kids aren’t going to go play in the park if this gets implemented.
Corporate Canada needs digital IDs apparently, both sides of our shit tier government want this.
Enforcement of dictatorship is why they bought that majority with taxpayer funds
Social media is objectively bad for kids and their mental health. But these decisions being taken away from parents is scary. Why does it stop there? Contact sports are objectively bad for developing brains (all brains for that matter), will the government ban kids from playing football and hockey? What if I want to take my kid mountain biking? Will the government allow me to do that given the physical risk?
So make everyone have their IDs have even more info than before and then force adults to upload new said IDs to access social media. HAHAHAHA
Libs love to ban things. Speech. Ideas. Firearms. Social media. It’s all for safety guys. You voted for it; I didn’t.
Great so now they will need proof. So some proof of ID of if will be tagged with my Reddit account
we all know that will never be leaked s/ ffs
With all this bullshit are we speedrunning to a surveillance state?
Such a ban means mandatory age verification for everyone, including every Canadian adult. Protecting kids should not come at the cost of violating user privacy.
Mandatory age verification is unacceptable as there is no such thing as privacy protecting or anonymous age verification. Canadians deserve more privacy online, not less.
I would recommend emailing your province/territory’s premier, your MP, Marc Miller (Heritage Minister and responsible for the upcoming online harms legislation), along with other Liberal Cabinet Ministers & party members, and explicitly tell them to reject mandatory age verification and age assurance at the provincial and federal levels.
—
Please take the time to demand that the both the federal government refrains from doing anything that would require mandatory age verification and age assurance, by messaging following Cabinet ministers:
* Marc Miller (Heritage Minister, the minister responsible for the upcoming online harms legislation): Marc.Miller@parl.gc.ca
* Sean Fraser (Justice Minister): sean.fraser@parl.gc.ca
* Mark Carney (Prime Minister): mark.carney@parl.gc.ca
* Mélanie Joly (Minister of Industry): melanie.joly@parl.gc.ca
* Evan Solomon (Minister of Digital Innovation): evan.solomon@parl.gc.ca
You can find the contact info for other Liberal party members here: https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en
—
You don’t need to write a long message unless you really want to. Even a simple message like this can do the job (feel free to use and modify this example):
> Subject: Protect Canadians’ Privacy: Oppose Social Media Bans That Require Age Verification
> Dear [Premier/Minister Name],
> I am writing to urge you to reject any legislative proposals, including youth social media bans, restrictions on AI systems like chat bots, and restrictions on adult content that would require online services to implement mandatory age verification or age assurance measures.
> Such systems pose unacceptable risks to Canadians’ privacy and data security. Requiring individuals to verify their identity or age to access lawful online content creates new opportunities for data breaches, surveillance, and misuse of sensitive personal information. Canadians deserve stronger privacy protections online, not less.
> I am also concerned by reports that the government may seek to copy Australia’s approach. Australia’s approach is not appropriate for Canada and should not be used as a precedent for policymaking here.
> I urge you to focus on better parental controls for parents, restrictions on K-12 school WiFi, and targeting services marketed as explicitly for kids (e.g., Youtube Kids). This would be in line with the recent Angus Reid survey on social media age bans, where 72% of Canadians said parents, and not the government, should be the ones enforcing the bans. Most Canadian parents already take measures to restrict their kids‘ technology and internet use. We should be supporting parents with better parental controls, instead of trying to force companies to violate Canadians‘ privacy.
> Sincerely,
> [Your Name]
> [City], [Province]
If you want to speak out against S-209 and related legislation, you can add this:
> I urge you to reject Senator Julie Miville-Dechêne’s Bill S-209 and any similar legislation targeting adult content, as such measures would introduce mandatory age verification requirements that undermine Canadians’ privacy and create unnecessary risks to personal data security.
If you want to cite expert opinion in your message, you can use the letter signed by over 371 experts from here that is against any form of age verification: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/dangerous-socially-unacceptable-experts-warn-153314818.html
Government me harder
Elbows up
Here’s comes the digit ID’s to access the internet and your bank accounts. Nothing to do with tracking and surveillance of citizens…it’s for the kids.
Lol. Shouldn’t the first issue be adults who are posting children on social media??
How are you going to tell a 14 year old to get off of social media while their mom or dad posts a dozen of images of said 14 year old? Or records the kid and uploads it to TiKToK?
Can someone explain to me how the government is going to tell 14 years old not to go on social media but still allow their parents to post the likeness of their 14 year old child all over their social media accounts?
You know what would actually stop 99% of the social media fake information and fake news?
If Social media stopped paying people who posted political posts that are designed to garner clicks. Theres entire industries build on spewing fake information online for clicks to make revenue.
That entire business model needs to change.
Exempting AI chatbots is fucked up.
My bet is it’s worse than social media for brain development and social skills.
So if it’s not about protecting kids, what is it for?
No way in hell I’m providing ID to a social media company.
„The social media ban for children under 16 mirrors earlier action in Australia that was introduced last year. But research shows that many children have evaded the restrictions and are still accessing social media there.“
Digital ids incoming
Guess I have to delete my accounts
So stupid.
Just part of the plan to implement digital id’s
On the one hand, it’s good for kids health. On the other hand, is it really the governments responsibility to manage your kids screen time? The government should not be your kids parents.
Government is gonna have to eat me on digital ID.
For those of you who are thinking about using VPN to bypass gov ID verification or facial scanning, C-22 in its current form will put an end to all VPNs.
This should be fun.
I support this in principle. But I’m concerned about data collection and the end result. We absolutely should be protecting kids, but I think that the ultimate onus needs to be on parents and caregivers, etc.