EV-Zuschüsse!
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Von HBtoons
EV-Zuschüsse!
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1u0eni9
Von HBtoons
36 Kommentare
Two or more things can simultaneously be an issue. We have far too many data centres and they are having a horrendous impact on our emissions and electricity usage, but private transport is a another huge source of emissions that is arguably much easier to deal with.
People are forever hopeful that we can consume our way out of a consumption problem
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Some nice whataboutery there
Oil will effectively run out in thirty years. Now is the time to switch,if not sooner.
The older I get and more government spin that’s pushed in my face the more I realise it’s all a con.
I’m the furthest from a cynic on the topic of climate change, but China’s moves towards a much greener energy independence are great news.
Our real power could and should be in being a positive influence in the international arena nonetheless.
Transport accounts for 24% of Ireland’s emissions, which is the highest behind agriculture (38%) and also the fastest growing. Data centers are nowhere in the picture. There are of course many other problems with data center growth but we really need to cut transport emissions. Our low public transport use doesn’t help either.
The irony…post an AI generated cartoon on line complaining about data centers and EVs…
Scrap your old car and get a new car. Good for the environment apparently. Every year you should scrap your 1 year old car and buy a new one. Do your bit for the planet.
It is a really weird thing at this late stage to be operating under the illusion that ‚climate change‘ is a major reason that one should switch to an electric vehicle…
It’s all a giant illusion we live in. Money over everything.
Get a bike. No insurance, no tax, fix it yourself. Good for your health and reduce your medical bills as well.
No, ta very much.
„Reduce your carbon emission & save the climate you peasants“
https://preview.redd.it/1ocryyb1r36h1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e3e702050b5fb40a16965c1f7fa3324b6afa4a4
Energy generation with fossil fuels is the problem. We can be more efficient and conservative in our use but unless you want the digital revolution/evolution to reverse course, data centres are here to stay. They just need to be powered by renewables.
Wind, solar need to replace fossil fuels for generation and EVs need to replace ICE cars.
Complaining about the promotion of EVs by comparing it to data centres **on a cloud service** is a tad ironic.
Look I know Ireland has a very high per capita carbon footprint. But given how frighteningly low our population is, why in God’s name are we allocating so many resources to climate action when our emissions are a drop in the bucket globally. I know, I know, if everyone thought that no one would be doing anything. But given that countries like China open new coal factories on the regular, it seems like we’re just shooting ourselves in the foot economically for what? Pride? The ability to say we’re doing our part?
I have a question do people really believe electricity would be cheaper if there was no data centers
@hbtoons on Insta 😶🌫️
Not seeing the irony of course in the fact that nearly every EV requires a constant connection to the cloud.
Missing the Shannon LNG terminal necessary to power both
Oh ffs. I charged my EV today on my solar panels. And that’s something a lot of EV owners do. Or they charge at a cheap night rate and export electricity during the day.
The data centre thing is so fucking tedious. Stop wasting your time on it. Why?
* The war in Iran has knocked out 30% of the global helium production. Chip production is going to slow. That will harm data centres.
* The war in Iran also knocked out 20% of the oil and gas supplies. We’re living on strategic reserves. Eventually those run out and construction and electricity prices go up. Or just stop. That will also harm data centres.
* There are multiple pressures to make LLMs more efficient. Right now we’re brute forcing the problem. At some point people are going to come up with algorithms that are 10x or 100x more efficient.
Tell TDs and MEPs to force all data centre projects to provide renewable generation for 2x or 3x or 5x of their energy needs. As residential energy usage electrifies, we’ll need more electricity generation. EVs will generally soak up excess night time usage, but heat pumps won’t. They use less *energy* but they will use more electricity. We can get data centres to help fund that while they’re still viable.
Also, stop opposing wind and battery and solar farms.
the point of this comic is wrong, and it’s not funny or particularly well drawn.
EV grants aren’t worth it. Battery life terrible on most EV’s/Hybrids. Shite infrastructure to boot.
Hold on and I’ll post on the Internet how I’m so opposed to the Internet for likes!!
The Internet consumes electricity. Cloud computing/Data centers are the most efficient way we have of consolidating that usage to avoid redundant energy expenditure. AI is a different issue, but this post is on reddit, which uses the Internet
Not data centers, no instagram, you tube, facebook…you all sit and cry….😂😂😂
EVs are basically not about the climate. Electric motors are ubiquitous, and in the end they will be more efficient and powerful than fossil-fuel-powered engines.
Data centers would not be a problem in a 100% renewable grid
Having data centres in ireland is helping climate change as theres much less heating and cooling costs compared to warmer or colder countries.
Why we should change to electric:
Independence from OPEC countries.
Independence from power companies when you have solar panels.
Moving CO2 emissions away from city centres and out to low density areas where the power stations are.
Excellent work
It of course will be completely taken up. The bandwagoner brigade will jump on. Make sure to fill your EV up with those bottles for the deposit return scheme 🤣
Supposedly smart, but EVs don’t employ literally millions of people in Ireland like Data Centres do.
Why has everyone become obsessed with data centres recently?
They run off electricity.
The idea is to create a grid composed of renewable electricity sources, not to stop using electricity or fuel entirely. Why cripple economic growth for the hell of it???
Also we should be switching to EVs, it’s a beneficial change to make
The real issue is the abyssmal public transport.
Please get your facts straight:
https://youtu.be/DNkZRt-X4RM
I’m all for slowing down AI development and reconsidering building new data centers, but arguing that data centers contribute to climate change is not based in facts.