Seems reasonable it could have an LED on the front
theclash06013 on
I don’t have an issue with this at all, depending on the specifics of course. A lot of recent legislation around technology raises pretty significant privacy concerns, but I also think people being recorded in public without their knowledge is a pretty significant privacy concern too. People shouldn’t have to worry that every single moment of their life could end up online, and I think you have a right to know if someone is recording you.
wrianbang on
How are they defining recording? If the glasses are on it is recording data. It may not appear as a recorded file but data is being collected. It’s the same as when you’re phone is on but not having camera recording enabled.
Guilty-Mix-7629 on
I suggest them being forced to wear an oversized jester hat any time they wear these public surveillance devices.
Boring-Shop-9424 on
Hardware indicators are fine but they only work if you trust the manufacturer enforces them in firmware. Which, given recent history, is a big ask.
BeerInTheRear on
Neat.
Now do the same thing for Flock and all the other cameras pointed at us in public places.
Humble_Chipmunk_701 on
Normalize shunning people who wear meta glasses
madgoat on
People already cover/disable the LEDs on these glasses to hide current indicators. forums are full of how-to guides to disable the visual indicators.
RoflMyPancakes on
It should be VERY apparent, like ABSURDLY apparent that it’s recording. Not just an LED but like a ring of LEDs around the lens.
It should be VERY hard to bypass, and bypassing it should be a crime.
Specific_Frame8537 on
The visual indicator will be that they’re wearing these dipshit glasses and should be under suspicion every second of every minute.
tpeandjelly727 on
There’s a light that blinks or is supposed to when meta glasses are recording. Not sure about others.
pawlije on
This already exists. The issue is people can “hack” the glasses to break the LED.
DevoidHT on
The issue with this is people are already tampering with their indicator lights to hide them. If you make tampering with them a felony maybe but I would rather they come down on the companies to make it impossible.
Talrynn_Sorrowyn on
If Japan can require all phones have an audible noise made when taking photos due to perverts taking upskirt shots of schoolgirls & office ladies in public places, it shouldn’t be hard to require an indicator light on smartglasses when they’re actuvely recording vudeo.
imminentjogger5 on
there is a visual indicator it’s just that there are dozens of youtube channels telling you how to disable it
madadekinai on
Yeah, no. Japan has tried that, and it has arguably failed miserably. While it stops the occasions voyeur, it’s almost as if there is a 1000 other ways to do without a phone and or other phones you can buy. All that does is inflate prices.
Fake_William_Shatner on
“Trust us.”
There’s a problem already with this whole plan.
Just the other day we were talking about the remote shutoff on new cars. It’s probably been there for a while, we are just now hearing about it.
They won’t be done until there is a probe inserted in your body. They won’t be done when there is DRM in your brain interface. They won’t be done when a repo man shows up to take back your liver because you skipped a payment. Even though the tech to make your vat expelled hamburger is further advanced and expensive than the one to clone livers.
They will never be satisfied with the control and invasion of your privacy because they know they own you. You are just leasing your life.
Fair-Hair2080 on
What does it say about Zuckerberg that he doesn’t already have something like this on the glasses? He does nothing to stop child porn on Instagram and this. Somebody should record his kids in public and post them online. Maybe he’d think twice about doing something like this.
EagleBigMac on
There is a visual indicator on every pair I’ve seen, that lights the fuck up and is super noticeable to me when it’s on and at least for the Meta 2 raybans I got my wife if the light gets covered or it even thinks it got covered it forcibly stops recording. What the fuck are these people on, don’t get me wrong if it isn’t codified in law it should be.
Illlogik1 on
🙄 because it’s so difficult to disable such a feature…
DelewareValleyTuners on
Nah, if you are in public, you outht to assume no privacy.
keithstonee on
You will be ridiculed and made fun of for being a corporate shill and buying that shit. Don’t let people just walk around with glasses like that for nothing.
Boozeburger on
Can we also have a visual indicator on all cameras in public?
JescoWhite_ on
Yeah…. This falls in the category of just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Way too many videos being taken of unexpecting people. Especially women and children.
Jasoco on
The fact that this isn’t already a requirement is crazy.
Jomotaku on
I think audio indicators as well would be good. Like Japanese phones where u can’t disable it. U can still circumvent it but it’s still something atleast
ToolTimeT on
Stupid since anyone can wear a concealed camera on their body and record that doesn’t involve glasses.
LagHound on
If we can’t secretly record, palantir can’t either!
Heavy_Law9880 on
They should make a noise when recording also.
BryceDL on
You would also need to make it illegal to cover up or disguise any visual indicator.
FureiousPhalanges on
While that’s a step in the right direction, I personally advocate for refusing to interact with someone until they take their smart glasses off
stelio_contos68 on
People wearing these glasses already stand out because they’re wearing the glasses. Assume they are recording.
Google button camera, pen camera, or water bottle camera, these are the things recording you without your knowledge.
redlinedidit on
I loved to wear thick frame glasses, and this stupid idea killed it.
guineaprince on
I would simply write the bill to prohibit glasses cameras.
Impossible-Two559 on
This is really easy to fix. All smart glasses require the user to hold a sign that reads “my glasses are currently recording”. Make it a felony to not have the sign while wearing the glasses and this whole issue created by a bunch of creepy perverts goes away.
cantinflas_34 on
It needs to cover when the user is not actively recording but data is being streamed regardless. The fact that this isn’t a thing is insane to me.
vivrant-thang on
i cannot believe we even let these things become legal. its so sick.
Alternative-Dot-884 on
Only because PA opticians don’t want to get caught on camera lying about agreements or illegal dealings. It’s certainly not to protect the average person.
Also someone can cleverly use their hair as a way of saying that indicator was unknowingly covered.
If you’re recording me and you’ve managed to block the recording alert light from being seen how do I ever prove that?
What difference will it mean? How is it enforced and without being enforced why have the false prevented if a law that means nothing?
IndyWaWa on
There are hacks all over youtube on how to disable indicators. Asshole abusers will always try to find away around accountability.
Deep-Minimum7837 on
„We need to have a visual indicator to tell if people are recording with their creepy glasses?“
Or….. how about this? Or, we could just not make glasses that spy on people?
EffeminateSquirrel on
For my 5th birthday, my uncle bought me a fireman’s hat with a siren on the top that had a spinning light and made loud siren sound. He bought it specifically to annoy my dad.
I propose this as the „visual indicator“ in the law.
edcculus on
the visual indicator should be huge LED lights that come on and read „asshole“.
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Seems reasonable it could have an LED on the front
I don’t have an issue with this at all, depending on the specifics of course. A lot of recent legislation around technology raises pretty significant privacy concerns, but I also think people being recorded in public without their knowledge is a pretty significant privacy concern too. People shouldn’t have to worry that every single moment of their life could end up online, and I think you have a right to know if someone is recording you.
How are they defining recording? If the glasses are on it is recording data. It may not appear as a recorded file but data is being collected. It’s the same as when you’re phone is on but not having camera recording enabled.
I suggest them being forced to wear an oversized jester hat any time they wear these public surveillance devices.
Hardware indicators are fine but they only work if you trust the manufacturer enforces them in firmware. Which, given recent history, is a big ask.
Neat.
Now do the same thing for Flock and all the other cameras pointed at us in public places.
Normalize shunning people who wear meta glasses
People already cover/disable the LEDs on these glasses to hide current indicators. forums are full of how-to guides to disable the visual indicators.
It should be VERY apparent, like ABSURDLY apparent that it’s recording. Not just an LED but like a ring of LEDs around the lens.
It should be VERY hard to bypass, and bypassing it should be a crime.
The visual indicator will be that they’re wearing these dipshit glasses and should be under suspicion every second of every minute.
There’s a light that blinks or is supposed to when meta glasses are recording. Not sure about others.
This already exists. The issue is people can “hack” the glasses to break the LED.
The issue with this is people are already tampering with their indicator lights to hide them. If you make tampering with them a felony maybe but I would rather they come down on the companies to make it impossible.
If Japan can require all phones have an audible noise made when taking photos due to perverts taking upskirt shots of schoolgirls & office ladies in public places, it shouldn’t be hard to require an indicator light on smartglasses when they’re actuvely recording vudeo.
there is a visual indicator it’s just that there are dozens of youtube channels telling you how to disable it
Yeah, no. Japan has tried that, and it has arguably failed miserably. While it stops the occasions voyeur, it’s almost as if there is a 1000 other ways to do without a phone and or other phones you can buy. All that does is inflate prices.
“Trust us.”
There’s a problem already with this whole plan.
Just the other day we were talking about the remote shutoff on new cars. It’s probably been there for a while, we are just now hearing about it.
They won’t be done until there is a probe inserted in your body. They won’t be done when there is DRM in your brain interface. They won’t be done when a repo man shows up to take back your liver because you skipped a payment. Even though the tech to make your vat expelled hamburger is further advanced and expensive than the one to clone livers.
They will never be satisfied with the control and invasion of your privacy because they know they own you. You are just leasing your life.
What does it say about Zuckerberg that he doesn’t already have something like this on the glasses? He does nothing to stop child porn on Instagram and this. Somebody should record his kids in public and post them online. Maybe he’d think twice about doing something like this.
There is a visual indicator on every pair I’ve seen, that lights the fuck up and is super noticeable to me when it’s on and at least for the Meta 2 raybans I got my wife if the light gets covered or it even thinks it got covered it forcibly stops recording. What the fuck are these people on, don’t get me wrong if it isn’t codified in law it should be.
🙄 because it’s so difficult to disable such a feature…
Nah, if you are in public, you outht to assume no privacy.
You will be ridiculed and made fun of for being a corporate shill and buying that shit. Don’t let people just walk around with glasses like that for nothing.
Can we also have a visual indicator on all cameras in public?
Yeah…. This falls in the category of just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Way too many videos being taken of unexpecting people. Especially women and children.
The fact that this isn’t already a requirement is crazy.
I think audio indicators as well would be good. Like Japanese phones where u can’t disable it. U can still circumvent it but it’s still something atleast
Stupid since anyone can wear a concealed camera on their body and record that doesn’t involve glasses.
If we can’t secretly record, palantir can’t either!
They should make a noise when recording also.
You would also need to make it illegal to cover up or disguise any visual indicator.
While that’s a step in the right direction, I personally advocate for refusing to interact with someone until they take their smart glasses off
People wearing these glasses already stand out because they’re wearing the glasses. Assume they are recording.
Google button camera, pen camera, or water bottle camera, these are the things recording you without your knowledge.
I loved to wear thick frame glasses, and this stupid idea killed it.
I would simply write the bill to prohibit glasses cameras.
This is really easy to fix. All smart glasses require the user to hold a sign that reads “my glasses are currently recording”. Make it a felony to not have the sign while wearing the glasses and this whole issue created by a bunch of creepy perverts goes away.
It needs to cover when the user is not actively recording but data is being streamed regardless. The fact that this isn’t a thing is insane to me.
i cannot believe we even let these things become legal. its so sick.
Only because PA opticians don’t want to get caught on camera lying about agreements or illegal dealings. It’s certainly not to protect the average person.
Also someone can cleverly use their hair as a way of saying that indicator was unknowingly covered.
If you’re recording me and you’ve managed to block the recording alert light from being seen how do I ever prove that?
What difference will it mean? How is it enforced and without being enforced why have the false prevented if a law that means nothing?
There are hacks all over youtube on how to disable indicators. Asshole abusers will always try to find away around accountability.
„We need to have a visual indicator to tell if people are recording with their creepy glasses?“
Or….. how about this? Or, we could just not make glasses that spy on people?
For my 5th birthday, my uncle bought me a fireman’s hat with a siren on the top that had a spinning light and made loud siren sound. He bought it specifically to annoy my dad.
I propose this as the „visual indicator“ in the law.
the visual indicator should be huge LED lights that come on and read „asshole“.