Überlebender der Schießerei in einer Schule verklagt KI-Waffenerkennungsfirma, nachdem das System die Waffe nicht erkennen konnte
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/06/school-shooting-survivor-sues-ai-gun-detection-firm-after-system-failed-to-spot-weapon/
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Good, fuck Ai. We need physical presence deterrences that check people for firearms PHYSICALLY, even if it’s possibly a ghost gun like a 3D printed firearm.
Edit: for the record, I’m not against 3D printing as I’m an avid 3D printing enthusiast.
I guess the Uvalde police are in danger of losing their jobs to AI…
A bullshit product not working as advertized. Shocker!
Personally I don’t quite care about whether this is AI or not.
If the performance demonstrated by a public safety system is provably inferior to the performance required (by the contract awarded by the public authorities), there is grounds for a lawsuit.
If the system *is* in fact performing as expected, the next question is if the on-premises security personnel were made aware of the operational capabilities (or lack thereof) of this detection system.
AI security is theater, and this lawsuit is the obvious result. Use actual guards and actual searches, not a camera with a sales pitch
How about we fix the mental health and well-being of every fucking American instead of only focusing on the rich?
_sigh_ relevant XKCD:
https://xkcd.com/937/
This lawsuit could have implications on law enforcement and security as a whole. It could help establish liability when AI fails to spot danger. With so many agencies replacing non-emergency dispatch with AI and so much security replacing analysts and security specialists with AI..
…and then the Trump administration wants to use AI to diagnose people.
AI does not deserve that much trust. Also, my heart goes out to those that lost their lives. AI has not fully matured yet, so I don’t understand why people are rapidly depending on it.
I hope they win. fuck AI and all companies trying to replace humans with it
It spots weapons just fine, as long as they’re bags of potato chips.
But was it shaped like a bag of Doritos?
It’s so funny how the US will do anything other than banning firearms in order to solve school shootings.
So „AI“ can’t identify an actual firearm, but falsely flags students in schools for having weapons when they don’t. Remember the student who had a Doritos bag and got flagged for having a weapon in school?
What a joke.
On the flip side the false positives are horrific and should also result in lawsuits.
Our country is so stupid that we do everything except gun regulation. Bunch of morons!
This is such an American post and thread
if the police don’t have a duty to protect, I doubt an „AI gun-detection“ company can be held accountable
These AI detection systems work great if you come in waving the gun around. If its actually concealed anywhere with any type of effort they are pointless.
Wow you mean it was just a mass surveillance tool and not a safety tool? I’m shocked! /s
The AI model is there to gather data on the students, not prevent shootings! Smh.
Should sue to people who purchased the system, for making a dumb decision.
The problem with using AI for this is that it’s too late. What’s the use of raising the alarm once someone is brandishing the weapon? It needs to be a preventative measure like x-rays or metal detectors. (There are the over-arching considerations of gun control, inequalities, mental health etc which are the core of the issue too.)
For AI to work you’d have to have an unholy number of cameras – like the article says, one of the issues was cameras not being located where they’d pick it up. That‘ because you’d need cameras *everywhere* and you still have the problem that once someone has got it where one of your cameras can see it, it’s too late to help anyone in range.
I am in favour of many types of AI, but this use case doesn’t add up for me, even if it worked perfectly. Putting my tin-foil hat on, it feels more like a Trojan Horse. Sure it can detect weapons (sometimes), but what it’s really doing is collecting training data on interactions, crowd movements etc. That’s not necessarily nefarious, but it doesn’t help anyone right now except the company collecting the data and it comes at the cost of the total lack of privacy of the students. Being on three cameras every second of your day should not be normalised.
Perfect safety is simply unachievable. No amount of surveillance will fix this and neither should we strive to. This needs societal and policy changes.
The ai is simply supposed to notice the gun and alert police. And it doesn’t replace the camera infrastructure if they’re shit cameras. It’s a bit of a stretch but then the AI may have said it can do more than it was capable of
Honest question here: If this system actually works, shouldn’t the school cop’s gun constantly be setting it off?
I have a lot of questions about how this system works, and none of them are answered by the Omnilert website or their „white paper“.
Maybe sue the school system that bought such useless technology.
It’s just the beginning of AI failures.