Großbritannien ist ein Sumpf aus Lügen und Desinformation – und wir sind mit dem Brexit-Bus hierher gekommen
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/05/britain-lies-disinformation-brexit-bus-economy-vote
Von ByGollie
Großbritannien ist ein Sumpf aus Lügen und Desinformation – und wir sind mit dem Brexit-Bus hierher gekommen
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/05/britain-lies-disinformation-brexit-bus-economy-vote
Von ByGollie
17 Kommentare
Thank the Epstein gang and the russian misinformation campaigns. They share a goal, to dismantle the EU, because it is a threat to imperialist oligarchs.
Well Britain did basically pioneer some of the worst aspects of highly politicised tabloid media a very long time ago. British TV and radio was always far higher quality than print, held itself to high standards and for many decades served the U.K. well as it tended to balance debate and provide a counterbalance to tabloid crazy, but now that same tabloid phenomenon found the internet, and has morphed and grown into a fake news and disinformation monster, while traditional broadcast media is becoming less and less relevant to politics.
Many news outlets are owned by billionaires who want nothing more than the status quo of the rich being rich and everyone else not mattering, and convincing them to help themselves stay that way.
People of any colour not white and the boats are the latest useful tool they’re using in their ‚Us vs Them!‘ distraction, when the only ‚Us vs Them!‘ should be the poor realising that they are being daily mugged by people who pay a smaller amount of tax than they do, who’s lives would not be affected and who probably would not even realise they were paying more if they did.
We’re also sandwiched between the English speaking American audience, who are in a propaganda-heavy country themselves, propped up by Elon the Idiot and his never-ending vendetta against the UK, and Russia who hate us enough to pay a bunch of people and/or bots to flood us with divisive twaddle.
Reddit isn’t the swamp that X is, but some of the edges are starting to smell a bit.
Be vigilant.
Its weird how the same country has both the BBC and the Murdoch press.
Welcome to the social media age. Now we have AI deciding what is real based on algorithms all for the low low cost of planetary destruction.
„suggesting that 76 million Turks would soon be able to come into Britain via the EU“
Did any Brits actually believe this at the time? Seems like a late addendum to try to overly-politicize a dumb economic decision.
Edit: I had the wrong figures for France.
I voted remain and don’t doubt that Brexit was very bad for the economy, but if we’ve lost 5-7% GDP from Brexit yet have still grown 6% prepandemic (compared to France’s similar 6% growth rate and Germanys 0.8% contraction), the implication is that we’d be sitting at 11-13% growth without Brexit.
That would have given us quite a staggering level of growth compared to peer EU economies. It doesn’t really chime with the widely accepted notion that the UK is the most stagnant, declining nation of Europe and Brexit only hastened our inevitable race to the bottom. It also doesn’t entail that EU membership is the silver bullet to economic growth for developed economies.
Anyway whilst Brexit was stupid, it’s happened now and there’s no offer of rejoining on the table which both the UK and EU would willingly accept. We should instead focus on developing EU-UK cooperation in areas where we can agree.
Let’s not forget Tony Blair who convinced people ~~that mattered~~ with money and influence that the country should go to war with Iraq.
The news is such a damaging aspect of UK politics. There needs to be some sort of break up into smaller media groups and have papers/tv/radio to announce who their owner is and what political affiliation/party they have.
It’s not like the EU kicked them out. They decided to leave on their own.
Be careful what you wish for next time.
Brexit is a disaster for the UK economy.
Should a business now import from EUROPE, there are now UK port inspection and the costs were similar to the haulage costs. The Boy Johnson negotiated a poor Treaty in haste , and we now pay the costs.
It’s not just about screaming ‚u lied‘ at eachother. It’s emblematic of what I view to be a existential risk for democracies.
Success doesn’t come from voting ‚everything gets better‘ at the ballot box. It comes from investing. Engaging in good processes, that lead to good outcomes, consistently over decades.
A lot of democracies (thanks boomers) have consistently done the opposite leading to failures which compound and become harder and harder to fix every time we kick the can. Which makes abandoning ‚good processes‘ which recognize the painful realities in favor of blatant lies and snake-oil miracle pills ever more appealing to the electorate.
Which makes the bomb in the can bigger. Which makes dealing with the bomb harder to sell. Which means we don’t deal with it. Which makes the bomb in the can bigger. over and over again.
It’s not just that the brexiteers lied. It’s that the public’s approval of the constant BS after the referendum was also approval to redefine norms built from good processes, which blazed the trail for trump-style politics and parties like farage to operate through bad ones.
For democracies to work, the electorate **has** to be responsible enough to fulfil their role as a check on misconduct and to guide policy.
„Britain is a swamp…“ – this is why I detest clickbait journalism. Whatever salient points might be in this article, you’ve made a sweeping narrative that shortcuts to „life bad“ that infects the heads of simpletons and helps cart them off into the polarization train to „Things were better back when…“, to the far right shite pipeline. Fuck, off, with, clickbait, headlines. I refuse to read any shite like this and haven’t for years since it’s inception as the „new journalism.“
Life is alright above the noise, and the U.K remains an ok place to live. It’s not exactly Sweden,but it’s ok 😂. As for the bollox: Greedy, megalomaniac idiots will end up manufacturing their own undoing, they always do.
And many of those who made their flawed and false promises in favour of Brexit, which subsequently damaged our economy and led to significantly increased uncontrolled immigration from outside Europe to an already over populated land, now peddle their new lies in an attempt to seize control. It must not happen.
it’s almost comical how even in the remain camp, support for rejoining craters when it’s pointed out that new terms would include none of the previous perks, the having-cake-and-eating-it mentality is rampant across the board.
Always always copy the US… and lo… surprised at what happened. Whoosh.
Cd copy paste it onto each comment here, but, nah. You kids will never learn.
Europe needs to control the narrative or we’ll be thorn apart by the Americans, Russians and Chinese.
They all want to destroy us and they will succeed by financing and boosting our internal morons.