Pilates-Lehrer aus Leigh-on-Sea von kostenlosen Strandstunden ausgeschlossen
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czr227nejmro
Von most_crispy_owl
Pilates-Lehrer aus Leigh-on-Sea von kostenlosen Strandstunden ausgeschlossen
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czr227nejmro
Von most_crispy_owl
26 Kommentare
The council want her to pay 85 a week for providing a free class. For nonsense like insurance
How about she does her own thing at a certain time of day and if people join her it’s a social gathering not a class. Ffs
I’ve developed a sudden and inexplicable interest in Pilates.
I’m kinda conflicted about this. I live by the seaside and on one hand beaches can get full enough in summer just from members of the public, so I can see having a private business take up space is objectionable.
At the same time, public provided services are supposed to be ours to use including to make money. Businesses use public roads every day, is the council going to ban that because it is a private business.
Edit: Oh I just reread it, she was doing this as a free community service! Ridiculous for the council to ban it then, what are they thinking. Everything is over regulated in this country it’s like they are trying to suffocate all culture and community out of existence.
What a perfect example of someone doing something good for the community being ruined
> More than 100 people regularly attend
Over 100 people getting moving, meeting people, out in the fresh air.
Any sane person looks at that and says that’s brilliant.
But the council needs to stick their beak in
She’s not charging, at the very most I’d maybe say get a waiver/disclaimer for people to sign to join in. That’s it.
A reminder to anyone wanting to help improve their community for free, don’t bother. Great example to set
Hate to sound old and grumpy but this is some of the worst of British culture.
Always someone comes along to tell you you’re not allowed to do something unless it makes some rich twat money.
Edit: Reminds me of Sean Lock’s joke: If Britain had gone to the Moon first, they wouldn’t have put a flag up, they’d have put up a sign that says ‚Caution: Uneven Surface‘
While it’s important the council looks into it for the safety for all involved, wouldn’t the sensible thing be a member from the council do the checks and relevant paperwork to ensure the class can keep going ahead, giving the benefit to the local community.
Does any local council actually make life better for the residents?
Very surprised to see my town popping up!
The council are ridiculous for this, I know people who have attended and I’ve only heard positive things from this.
This makes me so sad
> She added that she was unclear about the council’s reasoning after being told it was „trying to clamp down on things like this“.
There you go, folks. The main reason Britain can be such a joyless, miserable place is because our tax money is working hard to keep it that way!
All she has to do is post : i will no longer be doing lessons on the beach but I will still enjoy doing it myself at the same spot on the same hour
> Participants are encouraged to donate to local charities rather than pay a fee
What, helping people stay active, healthy & donating to good causes?
Straight to jail.
Just change it from a „class“ to „a group of friends spontaneously meeting up“.
Also – meanwhile – the pothole that almost killed my neighbour remains unfixed TWO YEARS LATER. Council priorities, I guess.
While it’s silly, it’s silly on her to not just ignore them. What they going to do? Arrest her? There’s nothing stopping anyone doing pilates on a beach. There’s nothing stopping others following her either
Classic jobsworth response from the council.
Looks like she’ll need to take a first aid class too from what I can see in the article.
Hopefully she can get some donations. If everybody that attended chipped in £1,she’d still be able to do her classes.
She should just carry on doing her thing. The council can barely be arsed to empty the bins. What are they going to do? Arrest her?
Running a class on a public beach with over a 100 people attending free or not requires some sort of overwatch, especially when the individual running it is doing nothing. In the real world you have things like risk assessments, public liability insurance and requirements to provide some form of qualified first aid, she doesn’t own the beach and is sharing the space with others but seems to think because she is not charging it is ok.
She should really have public liability insurance though. Not because the council said so, but if someone injures themselves she can get sued for tens or hundreds of thousands.
The £85 a week fee though is ridiculous.
Surely if it’s free, then it’s up to the people turning up if they want to take a “risk”? At that point, it’s like meeting someone and them saying, “hey, I like what you’re doing. Can you show me?” Of course, it’s 100 people saying that, but it should be personal choice with no consequences if someone hurts themselves. What happened to personal responsibility???
I cannot stress enough that all councils, no matter what party affiliation, are cunts. In my line of work I’ve worked for a lot of councillors, I can say without exaggeration, they are some of the most loathsome individuals I’ve ever met. Thoroughly miserable, self-serving, money orientated, corrupt, dictatorial bureaucrats.
Remarkably restrained comments. Well done everyone
Isn’t socialising costs like this why we have councils and governments? This should be allowed to go ahead, and we should collectively pay the cost. If necessary we should reduce the room for litigation – you aren’t paying and it’s not obviously insanely dangerous, so if you fall over something and hurt yourself that’s a you problem.
This is the British public sector at its very worst.
This is why it takes ages to get anything done in this country, up to and including implementing government policy.
We have allowed ourselves to become totally enthralled by managerialist bureaucracy which nobody ever asked for and which nobody ever voted for.
The first instinct of the state is to now to prevaricate and to ask ‘why should we do this?’ or ‘what are the challenges and risks?’ rather than asking ‘why shouldn’t we do this?’ or ‘why not take this action?’ That’s also why every public building project ever goes massively over budget.
No one individual person is to blame, but nobody in a position of authority in the civil service is brave enough to challenge the status quo and ask ‘why can’t we be more agile?’ Nobody wants to rock the apple cart, or say that the emperor has no clothes and just crack on.
It’s easier and safer to just have a long list of opaque decision-makers so that nobody can ever be blamed when things go wrong.
I had the police called on me in Regent’s Park in London because I used to regularly take an elderly cancer survivor with a stoma round the park for a walk 3 times a week. It was also free but I worked as a personal trainer at the time so they said I needed to get written permission and possibly pay to take him around there.
I knew the guy through one of my clients and I always had a ‚5 hour free‘ sessions a week for community causes (1 session a day).
The police drove a vehicle into the park inconveniencing all the users who couldn’t use the path. Took our details and escorted us out like criminals. We were advised we needed to get permission from the Home Secretary as it was a Royal Park.
All other things aside, requiring a management plan and a first aider for something where 100+ people are every week just seems like common sense?
Yeah, it costs money – but it’d only be a quid each for the attendees.
People blaming the council would also blame them if they did nothing and something went wrong at one of the events.