> New limits on social media access for children could be presented before the Makerfield byelection next month after an avalanche of responses to a public consultation have been analysed with the help of an **AI system called Consult** and an expert panel led by an eminent paediatrician. The consultation closes on Tuesday.
Oh this is going to be a huge mess…
> There are concerns inside government that **reforms could be hit by a legal challenge if the consultation process is not properly followed.** Over 42,000 parents and close to 14,000 young people were among over 81,000 respondents to the consultation which has included extensive lobbying by social media companies opposing changes to their algorithms. The technology secretary, Liz Kendall, said on Tuesday: “No one’s going to stop me from doing what I think is right.”
Reminder they would be using secondary legislation…
The-Peel on
The most authoritarian government in a lifetime, whom will be remembered for achieving absolutely nothing meaningful or progressive, and doing absolutely everything possible to irritate people and cause unnecessary faff.
The priorities of Starmer and the Labour Right are really pathetic.
player_zero_ on
This is such a minefield. Seems like comments always end up:
– Starmer always wanted digital IDs, bans on VPNs and to curtail our Internet freedom!
– It’s always the parents‘ faults all the time!
– Social media is indeed a problem for the younger generations, they deserve to have it banned.
Nuance seems to disappear and strong, polarised opinions are held.
AMaidzingIdeas on
So that „consultancy“ was exactly what people suspected, completely fucking pointless.
This fuckin nanny government i swear to god.
VPNs next btw
Helen83FromVillage on
So, if anybody asks why people dislike Labour – send them this link.
People are really annoyed not only by the push to ban something which is disliked by officials, but they are also tired of constant misinformation about protecting kids instead of honesty about wanting to associate all UK residents’ accounts with government-issued tokens, unless people are smart enough to use a VPN.
NdujaReallyLikeIt on
If social media is bad, why is it bad? The algorithm and how it’s owned by foreign actors.
We all agree social media has benefits. So the easy solution is a UK .gov social media. Call it TeaTime or something and the gov controls the nonsense it has.
Other option is EU creates one and we use that.
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Gizm00 on
From parents pov this is a good thing, it is a very good thing, it couldn’t come sooner.
Jealous-Juggernaut85 on
Honestly they be better off regulating social media rather than banning it from certain groups.
Start removing vile hate, racist comments, political agendas etc. Social media is being used as a tool for many political crap rather than what it should be. There is way too much lies and misinformation and is causing public hate between many different groups.
Unusual-Earth5557 on
Why don’t they do something fucking useful like putting a cap on rent or groceries
floopdev on
It’s not to ’save the children‘ it’s to make sure we all have to give our personal data and credit card info to all the social media companies.
Then they no doubt benefit when our privacy and identity becomes a commodity.
Sluggybeef on
Take it away from middle aged people they are causing the damage lol
asfish123 on
Children should be restricted to a degree on social media, but it’s not up to this shit tip of a goverment or any other to do it; it’s down to parents.
Whatever he does will be circumvented and just drive it underground
Starmer is trying despertely to make some name for himself around saving children, whilst doing nothing about his block-voting friends raping schoolgirls
Nuclear-Jester on
Genuine question, is there any group Startmer isn’t pissing off?
Chargerado on
I hope they realise doing this and giving 16 year olds the vote is a recipe for disaster.
Maaaaaardy on
Social media for children causes so many issues, and people are moaning lol.
tb5841 on
Does this mean we’ll need age verification to access Reddit? If so, I might finally get a VPN.
Silkie_gang on
Apps need a parental controlled under-18 mode or something.
get the fucking shorts button out of YouTube
Get channels and AI out of WhatsApp
Friend only feed on Insta
Ban TikTok
ComfortableReality32 on
Why don’t they instruct the police to go after the people they are apparently scared of hurting our children? I have no doubt there is nefarious forces on the internet, I banned my son from roblox because it is a cesspit of paedophilia – that being said, I am sure if the government were to tackle the source of all of this more effectively, as opposed to spending a large amounts of money spying on their citizens and enforcing laws that are clearly designed to erode our civil liberties, then we could get much further with making the internet a safer place. I really wish we would do something that made them think twice about the games they are clearly playing with us.
NeitherBag4722 on
I don’t have children under 16 but do have three grandchildren that would be affected. I have a VPN on my router and so does their parents so all this huffing and puffing by the government will be pointless.
Banning stuff you don’t agree with rarely works, this also probably won’t work. The government, like the Australian government, will put the penalties for non-compliance on the social media companies and they don’t give a crap.
Consistent-Pirate-23 on
I’m sorry but this is going to be a disaster.
Teenagers know ways around everything, same way we did.
The ones affected will be boomers, phoning us all up because their bookface doesn’t work and then they can put some rant about how Keir Starmer doesn’t want people to have free speech.
Same party that will want my vote in a couple of years will make me use a vpn or upload ID to keep in touch with hobby groups.
jeremybeadleshand on
God I’m tired of this tedious fucking moral panic already. Entirely drummed up by the legacy media who obviously have a vested interest here.
FuzzBuket on
I’m always confused by labour. You think with the high profile cabinet departures they’d at least reevaluate their strategy.
Cause you know what, I sorta agree. Social media is a bit of a blight (including reddit) and limiting its effects on kids isn’t an awful idea. Schools that have successfully got phones out the classroom have shown good results.
But trying to jam legislation through and doing this awkward back and forward with the media doesn’t help make a case, and at a time labours perceived to be authoritarian it’s the sort of measure you may not want to make headlines.
Cause this will drown out any news or labour actually stopping boats or doing genuine good, and it’s odd that social (porn, trans people, social media, protestors) causes rather than economic ones are what they burn political capital on.
Couch-Dogo on
Id love if they actually looked towards and took a stance against the social media companies that promote addictive algorithms, pushing dangerous political ideologies and selling peoples data rather than more stuff like what they’ve done.
Connor123x on
Coached a team of 13 year old boys.
On a trip we had a team lunch with parents.
every kid sat at the table staring at their phones, texting each other around the table instead of talking to them.
Yep, no issue there.
Bitter-Policy4645 on
But it wont be for children only, it will be everyone having to show id or use tor/vpn
dr-broodles on
When we have record numbers of young people permanently off sick with mental health problems, action has to be taken.
We don’t have the resources to provide high quality mental health care to everyone that needs it.
A better approach is to remove harm.
We’ve done the same with smoking and emissions in London – is reducing deaths and sickness a nanny state? don’t think so.
JackStrawWitchita on
Parents aren’t bothering to look after their own kids so that means we all have to expose our personal details to dodgy US ‚verification companies‘ to access social media.
This is yet another reason Labour are making themselves unelectable.
Drakonistes on
>New limits on social media access for children could be presented before the Makerfield byelection next month
Crazy timing, and probably has nothing to do with it, but I’d have to give Starmer Machiavellian props if this is a ploy to tank Andy Burnhams chances and destroy the labor vote so he doesn’t get challanged by Andy.
LordLucian on
Let me guess by proving we are over 18 via giving our id?
xhatsux on
I think people here are really really underestimating the harm social media is causing to society.
hoorahforsnakes on
Honestly, banning over-50s from social media would be better
GhostRiders on
Instead of holding social media companies accountable they cowardly decide to attempt to introduce draconian laws.
SunriseInLot42 on
When someone in government tells you that they’re doing something to “protect the children”, they’re not actually doing it to protect the children.
Almighty_Nothing on
I doubt it’ll work well, but social media is a toxin. It’s worse enough for adults let alone kids. I agree it needs to be banned, but it’ll probs be easy to circumvent
DMGerrr on
Me to announce I’m never voting for labour again within seconds.
So who does that leave me with? Nutters, lunatics, imbeciles and incompetents. There is literally no one for me to vote for. Great.
ShinHayato on
They can move quickly on this type of shit but can’t do anything about leaseholds or planning reform?
apple_kicks on
This helps social media because all ids checks makes data harvesting more easy and mire valuable. Expect targeted ads especially around elections to get more personal and sophisticated
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> New limits on social media access for children could be presented before the Makerfield byelection next month after an avalanche of responses to a public consultation have been analysed with the help of an **AI system called Consult** and an expert panel led by an eminent paediatrician. The consultation closes on Tuesday.
Oh this is going to be a huge mess…
> There are concerns inside government that **reforms could be hit by a legal challenge if the consultation process is not properly followed.** Over 42,000 parents and close to 14,000 young people were among over 81,000 respondents to the consultation which has included extensive lobbying by social media companies opposing changes to their algorithms. The technology secretary, Liz Kendall, said on Tuesday: “No one’s going to stop me from doing what I think is right.”
Reminder they would be using secondary legislation…
The most authoritarian government in a lifetime, whom will be remembered for achieving absolutely nothing meaningful or progressive, and doing absolutely everything possible to irritate people and cause unnecessary faff.
The priorities of Starmer and the Labour Right are really pathetic.
This is such a minefield. Seems like comments always end up:
– Starmer always wanted digital IDs, bans on VPNs and to curtail our Internet freedom!
– It’s always the parents‘ faults all the time!
– Social media is indeed a problem for the younger generations, they deserve to have it banned.
Nuance seems to disappear and strong, polarised opinions are held.
So that „consultancy“ was exactly what people suspected, completely fucking pointless.
This fuckin nanny government i swear to god.
VPNs next btw
So, if anybody asks why people dislike Labour – send them this link.
People are really annoyed not only by the push to ban something which is disliked by officials, but they are also tired of constant misinformation about protecting kids instead of honesty about wanting to associate all UK residents’ accounts with government-issued tokens, unless people are smart enough to use a VPN.
If social media is bad, why is it bad? The algorithm and how it’s owned by foreign actors.
We all agree social media has benefits. So the easy solution is a UK .gov social media. Call it TeaTime or something and the gov controls the nonsense it has.
Other option is EU creates one and we use that.
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From parents pov this is a good thing, it is a very good thing, it couldn’t come sooner.
Honestly they be better off regulating social media rather than banning it from certain groups.
Start removing vile hate, racist comments, political agendas etc. Social media is being used as a tool for many political crap rather than what it should be. There is way too much lies and misinformation and is causing public hate between many different groups.
Why don’t they do something fucking useful like putting a cap on rent or groceries
It’s not to ’save the children‘ it’s to make sure we all have to give our personal data and credit card info to all the social media companies.
Then they no doubt benefit when our privacy and identity becomes a commodity.
Take it away from middle aged people they are causing the damage lol
Children should be restricted to a degree on social media, but it’s not up to this shit tip of a goverment or any other to do it; it’s down to parents.
Whatever he does will be circumvented and just drive it underground
Starmer is trying despertely to make some name for himself around saving children, whilst doing nothing about his block-voting friends raping schoolgirls
Genuine question, is there any group Startmer isn’t pissing off?
I hope they realise doing this and giving 16 year olds the vote is a recipe for disaster.
Social media for children causes so many issues, and people are moaning lol.
Does this mean we’ll need age verification to access Reddit? If so, I might finally get a VPN.
Apps need a parental controlled under-18 mode or something.
get the fucking shorts button out of YouTube
Get channels and AI out of WhatsApp
Friend only feed on Insta
Ban TikTok
Why don’t they instruct the police to go after the people they are apparently scared of hurting our children? I have no doubt there is nefarious forces on the internet, I banned my son from roblox because it is a cesspit of paedophilia – that being said, I am sure if the government were to tackle the source of all of this more effectively, as opposed to spending a large amounts of money spying on their citizens and enforcing laws that are clearly designed to erode our civil liberties, then we could get much further with making the internet a safer place. I really wish we would do something that made them think twice about the games they are clearly playing with us.
I don’t have children under 16 but do have three grandchildren that would be affected. I have a VPN on my router and so does their parents so all this huffing and puffing by the government will be pointless.
Banning stuff you don’t agree with rarely works, this also probably won’t work. The government, like the Australian government, will put the penalties for non-compliance on the social media companies and they don’t give a crap.
I’m sorry but this is going to be a disaster.
Teenagers know ways around everything, same way we did.
The ones affected will be boomers, phoning us all up because their bookface doesn’t work and then they can put some rant about how Keir Starmer doesn’t want people to have free speech.
Same party that will want my vote in a couple of years will make me use a vpn or upload ID to keep in touch with hobby groups.
God I’m tired of this tedious fucking moral panic already. Entirely drummed up by the legacy media who obviously have a vested interest here.
I’m always confused by labour. You think with the high profile cabinet departures they’d at least reevaluate their strategy.
Cause you know what, I sorta agree. Social media is a bit of a blight (including reddit) and limiting its effects on kids isn’t an awful idea. Schools that have successfully got phones out the classroom have shown good results.
But trying to jam legislation through and doing this awkward back and forward with the media doesn’t help make a case, and at a time labours perceived to be authoritarian it’s the sort of measure you may not want to make headlines.
Cause this will drown out any news or labour actually stopping boats or doing genuine good, and it’s odd that social (porn, trans people, social media, protestors) causes rather than economic ones are what they burn political capital on.
Id love if they actually looked towards and took a stance against the social media companies that promote addictive algorithms, pushing dangerous political ideologies and selling peoples data rather than more stuff like what they’ve done.
Coached a team of 13 year old boys.
On a trip we had a team lunch with parents.
every kid sat at the table staring at their phones, texting each other around the table instead of talking to them.
Yep, no issue there.
But it wont be for children only, it will be everyone having to show id or use tor/vpn
When we have record numbers of young people permanently off sick with mental health problems, action has to be taken.
We don’t have the resources to provide high quality mental health care to everyone that needs it.
A better approach is to remove harm.
We’ve done the same with smoking and emissions in London – is reducing deaths and sickness a nanny state? don’t think so.
Parents aren’t bothering to look after their own kids so that means we all have to expose our personal details to dodgy US ‚verification companies‘ to access social media.
This is yet another reason Labour are making themselves unelectable.
>New limits on social media access for children could be presented before the Makerfield byelection next month
Crazy timing, and probably has nothing to do with it, but I’d have to give Starmer Machiavellian props if this is a ploy to tank Andy Burnhams chances and destroy the labor vote so he doesn’t get challanged by Andy.
Let me guess by proving we are over 18 via giving our id?
I think people here are really really underestimating the harm social media is causing to society.
Honestly, banning over-50s from social media would be better
Instead of holding social media companies accountable they cowardly decide to attempt to introduce draconian laws.
When someone in government tells you that they’re doing something to “protect the children”, they’re not actually doing it to protect the children.
I doubt it’ll work well, but social media is a toxin. It’s worse enough for adults let alone kids. I agree it needs to be banned, but it’ll probs be easy to circumvent
Me to announce I’m never voting for labour again within seconds.
So who does that leave me with? Nutters, lunatics, imbeciles and incompetents. There is literally no one for me to vote for. Great.
They can move quickly on this type of shit but can’t do anything about leaseholds or planning reform?
This helps social media because all ids checks makes data harvesting more easy and mire valuable. Expect targeted ads especially around elections to get more personal and sophisticated